Nacho man

[Vhero]

He's got more games than most players his age under a manager who never plays the youth. Unless hes stupid he will realise that and once Guardiola is in he will get his chance and Bony will probably be gone..

[City64]

Can see him getting good minutes at Norwich on Saturday .

[DoomMerchant]

Sorry, but it's neither silly nor contrarian to believe that a full international with 150+ career goals is better placed than a 19 year-old academy graduate to spearhead an attack as a lone striker.

Bony hasn't been shit at all. He has a bit of a dodgy first touch at times and has fluffed some decent chances but he's been involved in a lot when he's played. He will only ever deputise to Aguero, but it's ridiculous to have him sit out games in favour of an untried teenager who may or may not turn out to be the bollocks. Iheanacho looks to carry a goal threat but Bony does a lot of important hard work.

Absolutely no coincidence that the same people who spent four years slagging Dzeko are now all over Bony.

I didn't spend an entirety of four years slagging off Jayko. Only when he was crap did I slag him off.

And my point to you was about Bony. He has been shit this season. End of story. His moments of worthwhile productivity have been few and far between.

I don't know what you're watching to think otherwise. People can use the stats and call him a full international striker all they want but it doesn't mean anything to me really. I know what I'm watching and it's an out of form striker who offers very little to make our squad better.

We can do much much better.

Cheers

Watch the last 15 minutes of that game on Saturday again Doomie, he didn't make a great impact on the ball, although he was neat and tidy to be fair, but notice how we start throwing high crosses into the box purely because we had a target to aim at, this is what ultimately led to us winning the game.

He hasn't been great by any stretch but to say he's been absolutely shit is just pure nonsense.

We could have gotten the same impact playing any other forward or player up front at the end. It was a matter of numbers. Also Bony isn't like some giant. He's almost certainly smaller than nearly every CB in the Prem i would guess.

And yes he's been shit. Face fucking facts. Swans are about his level. He needs to be swapped out for a better player.

Cheers

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Sorry, but it's neither silly nor contrarian to believe that a full international with 150+ career goals is better placed than a 19 year-old academy graduate to spearhead an attack as a lone striker.

Bony hasn't been shit at all. He has a bit of a dodgy first touch at times and has fluffed some decent chances but he's been involved in a lot when he's played. He will only ever deputise to Aguero, but it's ridiculous to have him sit out games in favour of an untried teenager who may or may not turn out to be the bollocks. Iheanacho looks to carry a goal threat but Bony does a lot of important hard work.

Absolutely no coincidence that the same people who spent four years slagging Dzeko are now all over Bony.

I didn't spend an entirety of four years slagging off Jayko. Only when he was crap did I slag him off.

And my point to you was about Bony. He has been shit this season. End of story. His moments of worthwhile productivity have been few and far between.

I don't know what you're watching to think otherwise. People can use the stats and call him a full international striker all they want but it doesn't mean anything to me really. I know what I'm watching and it's an out of form striker who offers very little to make our squad better.

We can do much much better.

Cheers

Watch the last 15 minutes of that game on Saturday again Doomie, he didn't make a great impact on the ball, although he was neat and tidy to be fair, but notice how we start throwing high crosses into the box purely because we had a target to aim at, this is what ultimately led to us winning the game.

He hasn't been great by any stretch but to say he's been absolutely shit is just pure nonsense.

We could have gotten the same impact playing any other forward or player up front at the end. It was a matter of numbers. Also Bony isn't like some giant. He's almost certainly smaller than nearly every CB in the Prem i would guess.

And yes he's been shit. Face fucking facts. Swans are about his level. He needs to be swapped out for a better player.

Cheers

Now you're just being silly, he's very good in the air which is why we start putting crosses in with height on them when he came on.

[DoomMerchant]

Sorry, but it's neither silly nor contrarian to believe that a full international with 150+ career goals is better placed than a 19 year-old academy graduate to spearhead an attack as a lone striker.

Bony hasn't been shit at all. He has a bit of a dodgy first touch at times and has fluffed some decent chances but he's been involved in a lot when he's played. He will only ever deputise to Aguero, but it's ridiculous to have him sit out games in favour of an untried teenager who may or may not turn out to be the bollocks. Iheanacho looks to carry a goal threat but Bony does a lot of important hard work.

Absolutely no coincidence that the same people who spent four years slagging Dzeko are now all over Bony.

I didn't spend an entirety of four years slagging off Jayko. Only when he was crap did I slag him off.

And my point to you was about Bony. He has been shit this season. End of story. His moments of worthwhile productivity have been few and far between.

I don't know what you're watching to think otherwise. People can use the stats and call him a full international striker all they want but it doesn't mean anything to me really. I know what I'm watching and it's an out of form striker who offers very little to make our squad better.

We can do much much better.

Cheers

Watch the last 15 minutes of that game on Saturday again Doomie, he didn't make a great impact on the ball, although he was neat and tidy to be fair, but notice how we start throwing high crosses into the box purely because we had a target to aim at, this is what ultimately led to us winning the game.

He hasn't been great by any stretch but to say he's been absolutely shit is just pure nonsense.

We could have gotten the same impact playing any other forward or player up front at the end. It was a matter of numbers. Also Bony isn't like some giant. He's almost certainly smaller than nearly every CB in the Prem i would guess.

And yes he's been shit. Face fucking facts. Swans are about his level. He needs to be swapped out for a better player.

Cheers

Now you're just being silly, he's very good in the air which is why we start putting crosses in with height on them when he came on.

City of 2009? I'd love the fucker.

City now? Way past his level as he's shown.

What's fucking wrong with you people? Get a goddam grip.

Cheers

[Alioune DVToure]

Assuming you agree that we couldn't get by with just Kun and Iheanacho, who would you sign? It has to be someone who would be happy being in and out of the side.

[blues2win]

Bony injured so won't be available for tomorrow or maybe the weekend. Kelechi may get some minutes soon.

[South Stand Balti]

Bony injured so won't be available for tomorrow or maybe the weekend. Kelechi may get some minutes soon.

Bony injured ffs. I was hoping Sergio would be a sub tomorrow but he will start now. Maybe Ian will get 30 mns.

[Moonchesteri]

Bony injured so won't be available for tomorrow or maybe the weekend. Kelechi may get some minutes soon.

Bony injured ffs. I was hoping Sergio would be a sub tomorrow but he will start now. Maybe Ian will get 30 mns.

I wonder what are the odds for Kun now pulling a hammy after an hour (while Nacho still stays on the bench)?

[DoomMerchant]

Assuming you agree that we couldn't get by with just Kun and Iheanacho, who would you sign? It has to be someone who would be happy being in and out of the side.

No decent player will ever be happy being out of the side.

There are better, more productive and more useful strikers than Bony out there.

A list of 20 that you argue with me about won't really settle this debate.

You think Bony is a good backup striker option. I think he's not.

Cheers

[Alioune DVToure]

Assuming you agree that we couldn't get by with just Kun and Iheanacho, who would you sign? It has to be someone who would be happy being in and out of the side.

No decent player will ever be happy being out of the side.

There are better, more productive and more useful strikers than Bony out there.

A list of 20 that you argue with me about won't really settle this debate.

You think Bony is a good backup striker option. I think he's not.

Cheers

Don't mention it.

[dazby]

Assuming you agree that we couldn't get by with just Kun and Iheanacho, who would you sign? It has to be someone who would be happy being in and out of the side.

No decent player will ever be happy being out of the side.

There are better, more productive and more useful strikers than Bony out there.

A list of 20 that you argue with me about won't really settle this debate.

You think Bony is a good backup striker option. I think he's not.

Cheers

No but it will be fun. Name 3.

[dazby]

FWIW, I thought Benzema would have been ideal. Not now though. Your turn.

[Im_Spartacus]

Assuming you agree that we couldn't get by with just Kun and Iheanacho, who would you sign? It has to be someone who would be happy being in and out of the side.

No decent player will ever be happy being out of the side.

There are better, more productive and more useful strikers than Bony out there.

A list of 20 that you argue with me about won't really settle this debate.

You think Bony is a good backup striker option. I think he's not.

Cheers

No but it will be fun. Name 3.

I throw Dzeko in for starters

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Assuming you agree that we couldn't get by with just Kun and Iheanacho, who would you sign? It has to be someone who would be happy being in and out of the side.

No decent player will ever be happy being out of the side.

There are better, more productive and more useful strikers than Bony out there.

A list of 20 that you argue with me about won't really settle this debate.

You think Bony is a good backup striker option. I think he's not.

Cheers

No but it will be fun. Name 3.

I throw Dzeko in for starters

The same Dzeko that threw in the towel last season because he was fed up playing second fiddle?

[Alioune DVToure]

Admittedly, Lukaku looks much better value at £28m than Bony does. The problem is that he's only proven that he was worth that outlay since moving to Everton on a permanent deal. Besides which, he moved there precisely because he wanted to be an automatic starter.

I can see him heading to Spurs, Stretford or Arsenal at the end of this season. If Bony does end up moving on, I'd be tempted to try and bring him here.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

He's got more games than most players his age under a manager who never plays the youth. Unless hes stupid he will realise that and once Guardiola is in he will get his chance and Bony will probably be gone..

1st of all, he's not competing with most players his age, he's competing for a spot in our lineup.

2nd calling 3 mins at Arsenal a "game" may be true to record books, but he's got no ambition if it doesn't bother him a little bit.

3rd unless he's stupid he can see what we do when bony is on the pitch. He must surely think he's worth more than he's getting.

Bony has been shocking on quite a few occasions now. It's plain to anyone watching. He's scored a few but he's missed a ton. I'm not saying he shouldn't be ahead of nacho, I honestly think he should. I just don't think the gap should be so wide.

[DoomMerchant]

Admittedly, Lukaku looks much better value at £28m than Bony does. The problem is that he's only proven that he was worth that outlay since moving to Everton on a permanent deal. Besides which, he moved there precisely because he wanted to be an automatic starter.

I can see him heading to Spurs, Stretford or Arsenal at the end of this season. If Bony does end up moving on, I'd be tempted to try and bring him here.

of course Lukaku would be on that list.
As would Jayko.
How about Griezeman from Athleti.
That kid from Schalke that we're talking about -- Sane.
Harry fucking Kane.
Have some fucking Vardy.
Two season's ago's Vardy Chuck fucking Austin.
Did i mention Nacho? No. Not yet. Nacho. Throw the kid on and give him some fucking burn and see what he can do.

Guiseppi Rossi even...he is living in the wilderness and he's fantastic and similar to Kun if he's actually fucking fit. Poundshop Sergio.

i'm not even really trying and i think i can find nearly ten who i think would fit what we're doing better and be "fine" playing hard and working for a spot in the team. Plus with Kun's injury record you'd have to assume he'll be out for 1/3 of each season, so...

anyway...strikers are like Running Backs in the NFL...if you have one that isn't producing, you fuck him off sharpish and move onto the next one. A million of them out there who can do a job.

if we let the Bony story carry on he'll fuck us out of hardware. I can feel that much in my waters.

cheers

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Dzeko record at City in all comps: 1 goal every 152 minutes

Bony record at City in all comps: 1 goal every 158 minutes

Hmmmmmmmm

[john@staustell]

Dzeko record at City in all comps: 1 goal every 152 minutes

Bony record at City in all comps: 1 goal every 158 minutes

Hmmmmmmmm

Plus Bony is probably a lot better at getting thumped by centre halves.

This conversation has been had about 100 players since the internet came out. Of those I think Nacho has the greatest chance of making it.

But it's really depressing how many fans have so little understanding of the PL that they think he should go straight in over Bony at the first opportunity. People who have seen him for 3 minutes call the coaches, who see him for hours every day, idiots.

That's forums I guess.