Sister of fu wrote:I have a lot of time for Pellers and what he has done but Pep is a huge upgrade. Its not acceptable that we have already lost 6 games before the end of January and some of our play away from home has been inept. Can you really see that happening under Pep, I personally cant.
Last season was also a right off and a massive disappointment which I don't think the owners will have forgotten. Pep is the best that you can get and I am buzzing about this appointment. Who would have thought the club with the biggest floodlights and Curly Watts as a fan would be causing such waves...
"this is how it feels to be city......."
Spurge wrote:Sister of fu wrote:I have a lot of time for Pellers and what he has done but Pep is a huge upgrade. Its not acceptable that we have already lost 6 games before the end of January and some of our play away from home has been inept. Can you really see that happening under Pep, I personally cant.
Last season was also a right off and a massive disappointment which I don't think the owners will have forgotten. Pep is the best that you can get and I am buzzing about this appointment. Who would have thought the club with the biggest floodlights and Curly Watts as a fan would be causing such waves...
"this is how it feels to be city......."
I get the excitement about guardiolas appointment of course - his managerial record speaks for itself and his pulling power cannot be underestimated exciting times ahead, but exciting times right now as well.
Surprised with your comments about Pellers to be honest. You say you've got a lot of time for Pellers but to me it reads a bit like the patronising classic 'don't think I'm being rude' followed by the word 'but'.
Two trophies in his first season , sure last season by comparison was a disappointment, domestic cups particularly but a 'write off' I'm not so sure.
What point do you write a season off? This season for example you could havereasonably written off Chelsea's domestic season by the end of October perhaps relegation has been something closer on their minds than a champions league spot. Last season we finished 2nd, lost just 1 more game than in our title winning season and kept 14 clean sheets more than any other club. An extraordinary and exciting come back in our last 2 champs league games against Bayern and Roma saw us qualify for the last 16 of the champs league under Pellers for the 2nd successive season under his tenure, only to come up against Barca again. I found it exciting if not sometimes frustrating (reeling Chelsea in and letting them off the hook), but a write off - jesus!
So you point out we've lost in the league 6 times already and that its unacceptable, yes it's disappointing and I keep hearing how we should be walking away with it with our squad etc etc. We don't have a divine right to walk away with the title, we've had injuries to key players, we've not performed in certain games, teams set up to negate our threat, other teams are improving their squads. But in this season of unacceptable results, we find ourselves 2nd in the league, in the league cup final, in the FA Cup 5th round with another away draw against premiership opposition (7 goals scored 0 conceded) and topped our group in the champions league in what was considered another tough draw for us.
I really hope Pep doesn't let you down, sounds like you've set the margins for error incredibly tight. Conversely I really hope Pellers leaves the premier league and manages elsewhere in Europe or back in South America where he cant come back to haunt us
PeterParker wrote:Danny Murphy doesn't believe David Silva will suit Pep Guardiola's pressing game, with the current Bayern Munich boss taking over at Manchester City at the end of the season.
Hahaha.
Tokyo Blue wrote:PeterParker wrote:Danny Murphy doesn't believe David Silva will suit Pep Guardiola's pressing game, with the current Bayern Munich boss taking over at Manchester City at the end of the season.
Hahaha.
So let me guess, murphy thinks he should move to liverpool?
Ho ho ho. This is going to be a lot of fun.
Socrates wrote:Spurge wrote:Sister of fu wrote:I have a lot of time for Pellers and what he has done but Pep is a huge upgrade. Its not acceptable that we have already lost 6 games before the end of January and some of our play away from home has been inept. Can you really see that happening under Pep, I personally cant.
Last season was also a right off and a massive disappointment which I don't think the owners will have forgotten. Pep is the best that you can get and I am buzzing about this appointment. Who would have thought the club with the biggest floodlights and Curly Watts as a fan would be causing such waves...
"this is how it feels to be city......."
I get the excitement about guardiolas appointment of course - his managerial record speaks for itself and his pulling power cannot be underestimated exciting times ahead, but exciting times right now as well.
Surprised with your comments about Pellers to be honest. You say you've got a lot of time for Pellers but to me it reads a bit like the patronising classic 'don't think I'm being rude' followed by the word 'but'.
Two trophies in his first season , sure last season by comparison was a disappointment, domestic cups particularly but a 'write off' I'm not so sure.
What point do you write a season off? This season for example you could havereasonably written off Chelsea's domestic season by the end of October perhaps relegation has been something closer on their minds than a champions league spot. Last season we finished 2nd, lost just 1 more game than in our title winning season and kept 14 clean sheets more than any other club. An extraordinary and exciting come back in our last 2 champs league games against Bayern and Roma saw us qualify for the last 16 of the champs league under Pellers for the 2nd successive season under his tenure, only to come up against Barca again. I found it exciting if not sometimes frustrating (reeling Chelsea in and letting them off the hook), but a write off - jesus!
So you point out we've lost in the league 6 times already and that its unacceptable, yes it's disappointing and I keep hearing how we should be walking away with it with our squad etc etc. We don't have a divine right to walk away with the title, we've had injuries to key players, we've not performed in certain games, teams set up to negate our threat, other teams are improving their squads. But in this season of unacceptable results, we find ourselves 2nd in the league, in the league cup final, in the FA Cup 5th round with another away draw against premiership opposition (7 goals scored 0 conceded) and topped our group in the champions league in what was considered another tough draw for us.
I really hope Pep doesn't let you down, sounds like you've set the margins for error incredibly tight. Conversely I really hope Pellers leaves the premier league and manages elsewhere in Europe or back in South America where he cant come back to haunt us
Totally with you, those who arrogantly expect us to be walking an ever-more competitive league are delusional and completely out of touch with changes that are happening around us. The whole league is awash with cash and some have spent it well and on players they could only have dreamed of attracting a couple of years ago. The days of a Sky 4 may be well and truly over and I for one am delighted by that. It does mean there will be a bit more randomness to our results too and that won't necessarily change just for a change of coach. Guardiola will have to work a lot harder for consistent results than he ever has before. I hope the fans will be more patient than they have sometimes shown. It particularly surprises and disappoints me when it comes from fans that were around when we were 12th in the 3rd tier. I don't get how they can not just enjoy the ride rather than setting ridiculous expectations that would actually make us as boring as fuck if they were ever met!
Pellegrini has delivered exciting football and has delivered way beyond my expectations when he first started. Total respect to him as a decent and dignified human being and for what he's done as our coach. I hope those singing Guardiola's praises are right and that he will rise to the new challenge, let's not hamstring him with ridiculous expectations though, a trophy a year on average should still be the bar we set. Pellegrini still has 4 months left, let's show him some love during that time and get behind his team.
PrezIke wrote:Utd is surely one who would want Pellegrini, but he would know better than to do that.
I hate to think this but I think the lesser evil is going to Chelsea, and I think that's where he will end up. It would a similar situation to him coming in following Mancini. Being more of a manager players get along with, which we responded to very well in his first season.
Chopper wrote:Does anyone really think that Pellers will manage a team in the premier league for the next few years? Peps been in the works for at least two years.
Ray78 wrote:PrezIke wrote:Utd is surely one who would want Pellegrini, but he would know better than to do that.
I hate to think this but I think the lesser evil is going to Chelsea, and I think that's where he will end up. It would a similar situation to him coming in following Mancini. Being more of a manager players get along with, which we responded to very well in his first season.
No chance of Pellegrini going to the rags. Chelsea maybe a decent call but they have a similar type of manager in place and they may go for a younger manager. He will probably try another league (Napoli wanted him as Benitez's replacement) or will have another crack at trying to win La Liga.
Dameerto wrote:Socrates wrote:Spurge wrote:Sister of fu wrote:I have a lot of time for Pellers and what he has done but Pep is a huge upgrade. Its not acceptable that we have already lost 6 games before the end of January and some of our play away from home has been inept. Can you really see that happening under Pep, I personally cant.
Last season was also a right off and a massive disappointment which I don't think the owners will have forgotten. Pep is the best that you can get and I am buzzing about this appointment. Who would have thought the club with the biggest floodlights and Curly Watts as a fan would be causing such waves...
"this is how it feels to be city......."
I get the excitement about guardiolas appointment of course - his managerial record speaks for itself and his pulling power cannot be underestimated exciting times ahead, but exciting times right now as well.
Surprised with your comments about Pellers to be honest. You say you've got a lot of time for Pellers but to me it reads a bit like the patronising classic 'don't think I'm being rude' followed by the word 'but'.
Two trophies in his first season , sure last season by comparison was a disappointment, domestic cups particularly but a 'write off' I'm not so sure.
What point do you write a season off? This season for example you could havereasonably written off Chelsea's domestic season by the end of October perhaps relegation has been something closer on their minds than a champions league spot. Last season we finished 2nd, lost just 1 more game than in our title winning season and kept 14 clean sheets more than any other club. An extraordinary and exciting come back in our last 2 champs league games against Bayern and Roma saw us qualify for the last 16 of the champs league under Pellers for the 2nd successive season under his tenure, only to come up against Barca again. I found it exciting if not sometimes frustrating (reeling Chelsea in and letting them off the hook), but a write off - jesus!
So you point out we've lost in the league 6 times already and that its unacceptable, yes it's disappointing and I keep hearing how we should be walking away with it with our squad etc etc. We don't have a divine right to walk away with the title, we've had injuries to key players, we've not performed in certain games, teams set up to negate our threat, other teams are improving their squads. But in this season of unacceptable results, we find ourselves 2nd in the league, in the league cup final, in the FA Cup 5th round with another away draw against premiership opposition (7 goals scored 0 conceded) and topped our group in the champions league in what was considered another tough draw for us.
I really hope Pep doesn't let you down, sounds like you've set the margins for error incredibly tight. Conversely I really hope Pellers leaves the premier league and manages elsewhere in Europe or back in South America where he cant come back to haunt us
Totally with you, those who arrogantly expect us to be walking an ever-more competitive league are delusional and completely out of touch with changes that are happening around us. The whole league is awash with cash and some have spent it well and on players they could only have dreamed of attracting a couple of years ago. The days of a Sky 4 may be well and truly over and I for one am delighted by that. It does mean there will be a bit more randomness to our results too and that won't necessarily change just for a change of coach. Guardiola will have to work a lot harder for consistent results than he ever has before. I hope the fans will be more patient than they have sometimes shown. It particularly surprises and disappoints me when it comes from fans that were around when we were 12th in the 3rd tier. I don't get how they can not just enjoy the ride rather than setting ridiculous expectations that would actually make us as boring as fuck if they were ever met!
Pellegrini has delivered exciting football and has delivered way beyond my expectations when he first started. Total respect to him as a decent and dignified human being and for what he's done as our coach. I hope those singing Guardiola's praises are right and that he will rise to the new challenge, let's not hamstring him with ridiculous expectations though, a trophy a year on average should still be the bar we set. Pellegrini still has 4 months left, let's show him some love during that time and get behind his team.
It's not arrogance to expect more from the squad we have - it's not arrogance to be concerned over our inconsistency this season either - we're lucky the rest of the league has been dropping as many points as we have or things could be worse. It's been a strange season in the league for sure. (and for me when I talk about our season I mean the league).
Spurge wrote:Sister of fu wrote:I have a lot of time for Pellers and what he has done but Pep is a huge upgrade. Its not acceptable that we have already lost 6 games before the end of January and some of our play away from home has been inept. Can you really see that happening under Pep, I personally cant.
Last season was also a right off and a massive disappointment which I don't think the owners will have forgotten. Pep is the best that you can get and I am buzzing about this appointment. Who would have thought the club with the biggest floodlights and Curly Watts as a fan would be causing such waves...
"this is how it feels to be city......."
I get the excitement about guardiolas appointment of course - his managerial record speaks for itself and his pulling power cannot be underestimated exciting times ahead, but exciting times right now as well.
Surprised with your comments about Pellers to be honest. You say you've got a lot of time for Pellers but to me it reads a bit like the patronising classic 'don't think I'm being rude' followed by the word 'but'.
Two trophies in his first season , sure last season by comparison was a disappointment, domestic cups particularly but a 'write off' I'm not so sure.
What point do you write a season off? This season for example you could havereasonably written off Chelsea's domestic season by the end of October perhaps relegation has been something closer on their minds than a champions league spot. Last season we finished 2nd, lost just 1 more game than in our title winning season and kept 14 clean sheets more than any other club. An extraordinary and exciting come back in our last 2 champs league games against Bayern and Roma saw us qualify for the last 16 of the champs league under Pellers for the 2nd successive season under his tenure, only to come up against Barca again. I found it exciting if not sometimes frustrating (reeling Chelsea in and letting them off the hook), but a write off - jesus!
So you point out we've lost in the league 6 times already and that its unacceptable, yes it's disappointing and I keep hearing how we should be walking away with it with our squad etc etc. We don't have a divine right to walk away with the title, we've had injuries to key players, we've not performed in certain games, teams set up to negate our threat, other teams are improving their squads. But in this season of unacceptable results, we find ourselves 2nd in the league, in the league cup final, in the FA Cup 5th round with another away draw against premiership opposition (7 goals scored 0 conceded) and topped our group in the champions league in what was considered another tough draw for us.
I really hope Pep doesn't let you down, sounds like you've set the margins for error incredibly tight. Conversely I really hope Pellers leaves the premier league and manages elsewhere in Europe or back in South America where he cant come back to haunt us
Sister of fu wrote:Spurge wrote:Sister of fu wrote:I have a lot of time for Pellers and what he has done but Pep is a huge upgrade. Its not acceptable that we have already lost 6 games before the end of January and some of our play away from home has been inept. Can you really see that happening under Pep, I personally cant.
Last season was also a right off and a massive disappointment which I don't think the owners will have forgotten. Pep is the best that you can get and I am buzzing about this appointment. Who would have thought the club with the biggest floodlights and Curly Watts as a fan would be causing such waves...
"this is how it feels to be city......."
I get the excitement about guardiolas appointment of course - his managerial record speaks for itself and his pulling power cannot be underestimated exciting times ahead, but exciting times right now as well.
Surprised with your comments about Pellers to be honest. You say you've got a lot of time for Pellers but to me it reads a bit like the patronising classic 'don't think I'm being rude' followed by the word 'but'.
Two trophies in his first season , sure last season by comparison was a disappointment, domestic cups particularly but a 'write off' I'm not so sure.
What point do you write a season off? This season for example you could havereasonably written off Chelsea's domestic season by the end of October perhaps relegation has been something closer on their minds than a champions league spot. Last season we finished 2nd, lost just 1 more game than in our title winning season and kept 14 clean sheets more than any other club. An extraordinary and exciting come back in our last 2 champs league games against Bayern and Roma saw us qualify for the last 16 of the champs league under Pellers for the 2nd successive season under his tenure, only to come up against Barca again. I found it exciting if not sometimes frustrating (reeling Chelsea in and letting them off the hook), but a write off - jesus!
So you point out we've lost in the league 6 times already and that its unacceptable, yes it's disappointing and I keep hearing how we should be walking away with it with our squad etc etc. We don't have a divine right to walk away with the title, we've had injuries to key players, we've not performed in certain games, teams set up to negate our threat, other teams are improving their squads. But in this season of unacceptable results, we find ourselves 2nd in the league, in the league cup final, in the FA Cup 5th round with another away draw against premiership opposition (7 goals scored 0 conceded) and topped our group in the champions league in what was considered another tough draw for us.
I really hope Pep doesn't let you down, sounds like you've set the margins for error incredibly tight. Conversely I really hope Pellers leaves the premier league and manages elsewhere in Europe or back in South America where he cant come back to haunt us
Last season, we didn't even challenge, no where near. How many points off Chelsea were we? Not arrogant enough to think we should win everything but I do expect us to make a fist of a challenge, last season we didn't which is a fact. I thought it was a write off and that's my opinion, clearly you have a different one.
At times this season we have been very poor, did you see us play Spurs and Liverpool. Two of the worst displays I have seen in recent times. I would say we started the season on fire with 5 wins out of 5 and then for some reason have dropped off, alarmingly at times. Seville apart I have not been impressed with our play. Is that the gaffer or the players? There are no guarantees this season that we win anything so it's all well and good saying we are in four competitions, how confident are you that we will any? With the squad we have I feel we should be doing better but again that's just my opinion.
I just think at times we lack intensity, under Pep I don't see that being an issue. Heard a lot about how he pushes and pushes his players to be the very best, i think that it just what this squad needs.
john@staustell wrote:Sister of fu wrote:Spurge wrote:Sister of fu wrote:I have a lot of time for Pellers and what he has done but Pep is a huge upgrade. Its not acceptable that we have already lost 6 games before the end of January and some of our play away from home has been inept. Can you really see that happening under Pep, I personally cant.
Last season was also a right off and a massive disappointment which I don't think the owners will have forgotten. Pep is the best that you can get and I am buzzing about this appointment. Who would have thought the club with the biggest floodlights and Curly Watts as a fan would be causing such waves...
"this is how it feels to be city......."
I get the excitement about guardiolas appointment of course - his managerial record speaks for itself and his pulling power cannot be underestimated exciting times ahead, but exciting times right now as well.
Surprised with your comments about Pellers to be honest. You say you've got a lot of time for Pellers but to me it reads a bit like the patronising classic 'don't think I'm being rude' followed by the word 'but'.
Two trophies in his first season , sure last season by comparison was a disappointment, domestic cups particularly but a 'write off' I'm not so sure.
What point do you write a season off? This season for example you could havereasonably written off Chelsea's domestic season by the end of October perhaps relegation has been something closer on their minds than a champions league spot. Last season we finished 2nd, lost just 1 more game than in our title winning season and kept 14 clean sheets more than any other club. An extraordinary and exciting come back in our last 2 champs league games against Bayern and Roma saw us qualify for the last 16 of the champs league under Pellers for the 2nd successive season under his tenure, only to come up against Barca again. I found it exciting if not sometimes frustrating (reeling Chelsea in and letting them off the hook), but a write off - jesus!
So you point out we've lost in the league 6 times already and that its unacceptable, yes it's disappointing and I keep hearing how we should be walking away with it with our squad etc etc. We don't have a divine right to walk away with the title, we've had injuries to key players, we've not performed in certain games, teams set up to negate our threat, other teams are improving their squads. But in this season of unacceptable results, we find ourselves 2nd in the league, in the league cup final, in the FA Cup 5th round with another away draw against premiership opposition (7 goals scored 0 conceded) and topped our group in the champions league in what was considered another tough draw for us.
I really hope Pep doesn't let you down, sounds like you've set the margins for error incredibly tight. Conversely I really hope Pellers leaves the premier league and manages elsewhere in Europe or back in South America where he cant come back to haunt us
Last season, we didn't even challenge, no where near. How many points off Chelsea were we? Not arrogant enough to think we should win everything but I do expect us to make a fist of a challenge, last season we didn't which is a fact. I thought it was a write off and that's my opinion, clearly you have a different one.
At times this season we have been very poor, did you see us play Spurs and Liverpool. Two of the worst displays I have seen in recent times. I would say we started the season on fire with 5 wins out of 5 and then for some reason have dropped off, alarmingly at times. Seville apart I have not been impressed with our play. Is that the gaffer or the players? There are no guarantees this season that we win anything so it's all well and good saying we are in four competitions, how confident are you that we will any? With the squad we have I feel we should be doing better but again that's just my opinion.
I just think at times we lack intensity, under Pep I don't see that being an issue. Heard a lot about how he pushes and pushes his players to be the very best, i think that it just what this squad needs.
It's good we are now wholly disappointed with second., Sis
Spurge - there's a big picture here mate which you aren't seeing. Pellegrini was only ever a caretaker. He hasn't been disposed of because of his record.
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