Football Media

[Wonderwall]

The normally good Martin Samuels wrote a shit piece on last night's game. Apparently Kiev dominated us in the second half and will feel unlucky not to have taken a draw from the game. All the usual clichés are in there too, maybe he has been told to tow the line.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

The normally good Martin Samuels wrote a shit piece on last night's game. Apparently Kiev dominated us in the second half and will feel unlucky not to have taken a draw from the game. All the usual clichés are in there too, maybe he has been told to tow the line.

Didn't read it, can't be bothered but to say they dominated us is ridiculous, they had a purple patch after they scored ( out of the blue ) which was to be expected against anyone playing in front of their own support. It could've cost us but thankfully we weathered it, thanks in no small part to Hart's excellent save.

[mr_nool]

We should have put the game to bed already in the first half and in the second we created enough clear-cut chances to make it 5-6 goals.
Samuel must've been drunk.

[Wooders]

The normally good Martin Samuels wrote a shit piece on last night's game. Apparently Kiev dominated us in the second half and will feel unlucky not to have taken a draw from the game. All the usual clichés are in there too, maybe he has been told to tow the line.

He was watching the same game as me then - when they switched strikers and tactics we started to struggle and pellegrini did nothing to compensate their new attacking threat - yes we had some of our own chances, one of which we took but we were up against it in the second half and could easily have walked away with fewer points

[Wonderwall]

The normally good Martin Samuels wrote a shit piece on last night's game. Apparently Kiev dominated us in the second half and will feel unlucky not to have taken a draw from the game. All the usual clichés are in there too, maybe he has been told to tow the line.

He was watching the same game as me then - when they switched strikers and tactics we started to struggle and pellegrini did nothing to compensate their new attacking threat - yes we had some of our own chances, one of which we took but we were up against it in the second half and could easily have walked away with fewer points

Wow. You though Kiev dominated us in the second half. They had a 10 minute period where they pressured us. We had much the clearer chances. They were lucky with the deflection and Hart made one good save that I would expect him to make.

They got very lucky with a couple.of instances in a couple.of minutes where a ricochet went straight at their keeper that could have gone anywhere.

I certainly didn't see what you saw.

[john@staustell]

The normally good Martin Samuels wrote a shit piece on last night's game. Apparently Kiev dominated us in the second half and will feel unlucky not to have taken a draw from the game. All the usual clichés are in there too, maybe he has been told to tow the line.

He was watching the same game as me then - when they switched strikers and tactics we started to struggle and pellegrini did nothing to compensate their new attacking threat - yes we had some of our own chances, one of which we took but we were up against it in the second half and could easily have walked away with fewer points

That's from the 'oh my God we should win every game 5-0 and never led the oppo in our half sort of thing'. The school that says when Schmeical saved Taggart's bacon it was brilliant but when Hart makes a good save then City are lucky.

it was an excellent win and but for some poor finishing would have been 6. That is where most of our problems are this season - finishing.

[Beefymcfc]

Never really understood the love in for the fat bearded one. Yes, sometimes he writes nice pieces but it's usually in the context in his thoughts of greater things, to confirm his case as with FFP.

He regularly has a pop and if he wrote that we were dominated he's just being another lazy journo who probably didn't watch the whole game or bothered to actually look at the stats.

I'm just watching the Spurs game from last week and I note that the focus is very much Spurs orientated. They're going on how great Spurs have been, how good they are in front of goal and how much they are dominating. Then, up pops the stat that they've only had 1 shot to our 4. Typically we would dominate but in this case the domination was the other way, Spurs having probably 10% extra possession, but like they say with us, what is possession without scoring?

Obviously that was the first half but when you look at it objectively, you cannot put one team on such a pedastle, such as Sky does with most teams who play us, when the fact is they are trailing on actually chances.

I wonder how Clattenburg does this half?

[Beefymcfc]

Ahhhhhh,I remember now. The referee affecting one of our games ...... Again!

At least Quinny is stating how shit a decision it was.

[Beefymcfc]

Ahhhhhh,I remember now. The referee affecting one of our games ...... Again!

At least Quinny is stating how shit a decision it was.

Oh, asnd look at that. 2 quick offside decisions given against us when Sergio was clearly on. 20 seconds later it's in the back of our net.

I'd say it's the worst refereeing performance since ........... But they're have been so many it's become a running joke.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Ahhhhhh,I remember now. The referee affecting one of our games ...... Again!

At least Quinny is stating how shit a decision it was.

Oh, asnd look at that. 2 quick offside decisions given against us when Sergio was clearly on. 20 seconds later it's in the back of our net.

I'd say it's the worst refereeing performance since ........... But they're have been so many it's become a running joke.

Were they definitely onside mate? I only ask because the cunts never showed a replay, in real time he looked on.

[Beefymcfc]

Ahhhhhh,I remember now. The referee affecting one of our games ...... Again!

At least Quinny is stating how shit a decision it was.

Oh, asnd look at that. 2 quick offside decisions given against us when Sergio was clearly on. 20 seconds later it's in the back of our net.

I'd say it's the worst refereeing performance since ........... But they're have been so many it's become a running joke.

Were they definitely onside mate? I only ask because the cunts never showed a replay, in real time he looked on.

There was 3 all together for Sergio. The first seemed just off but the second, with the aid of rewind/pause is clearly on by at least half a yard, and he would've been clear through. That would have been a clear goal scoring opportunity for someone like Sergio, one on one with the keeper. That last was dead level but it would've been hard as about 6 players swarmed around him. Still, we would've had the ball and it probably wouldn't have led to their second goal.

Interesting that you mention about them not showing it. It's become commonplace in many games now but only if it suits the broadcaster. I've looked for the same thing with the likes of the Rags but they seem to show every one that doesn't go their way, making it a real talking point whereas it's shrugged off if it goes for them.

It's the nuances like this that I look for. A bit sad I suppose but eh, it's me.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Ahhhhhh,I remember now. The referee affecting one of our games ...... Again!

At least Quinny is stating how shit a decision it was.

Oh, asnd look at that. 2 quick offside decisions given against us when Sergio was clearly on. 20 seconds later it's in the back of our net.

I'd say it's the worst refereeing performance since ........... But they're have been so many it's become a running joke.

Were they definitely onside mate? I only ask because the cunts never showed a replay, in real time he looked on.

There was 3 all together for Sergio. The first seemed just off but the second, with the aid of rewind/pause is clearly on by at least half a yard, and he would've been clear through. That would have been a clear goal scoring opportunity for someone like Sergio, one on one with the keeper. That last was dead level but it would've been hard as about 6 players swarmed around him. Still, we would've had the ball and it probably wouldn't have led to their second goal.

Interesting that you mention about them not showing it. It's become commonplace in many games now but only if it suits the broadcaster. I've looked for the same thing with the likes of the Rags but they seem to show every one that doesn't go their way, making it a real talking point whereas it's shrugged off if it goes for them.

It's the nuances like this that I look for. A bit sad I suppose but eh, it's me.

I'm the same mate.

Just to clarify, the one Yaya flicked over the top to him, on or off?

[Beefymcfc]

Most definitely on mate. He'd run back from an offside position and was a yard onside before running on goal. It wasn't even difficult to spot if you're watching the line. Interesting point is that the ref would usually cross his arm over the flag indicating he was coming back from an offside position, like he did a little later, but there was none of it, just a straight arm. That says to me, at least, that he couldn't have been sure and 'guessed' that he was offside. The crowd behind him went apeshit as well.

Sergio's attitude said it all though, grabbing the ball and going to punch it in frustration.

[mr_nool]

Ahhhhhh,I remember now. The referee affecting one of our games ...... Again!

At least Quinny is stating how shit a decision it was.

Oh, asnd look at that. 2 quick offside decisions given against us when Sergio was clearly on. 20 seconds later it's in the back of our net.

I'd say it's the worst refereeing performance since ........... But they're have been so many it's become a running joke.

Were they definitely onside mate? I only ask because the cunts never showed a replay, in real time he looked on.

There was 3 all together for Sergio. The first seemed just off but the second, with the aid of rewind/pause is clearly on by at least half a yard, and he would've been clear through. That would have been a clear goal scoring opportunity for someone like Sergio, one on one with the keeper. That last was dead level but it would've been hard as about 6 players swarmed around him. Still, we would've had the ball and it probably wouldn't have led to their second goal.

Interesting that you mention about them not showing it. It's become commonplace in many games now but only if it suits the broadcaster. I've looked for the same thing with the likes of the Rags but they seem to show every one that doesn't go their way, making it a real talking point whereas it's shrugged off if it goes for them.

It's the nuances like this that I look for. A bit sad I suppose but eh, it's me.

Worst in that respect was the Navas penalty shout away to Everton in the cup. It took a good 15 minutes before they showed that replay, and they only showed it once.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Most definitely on mate. He'd run back from an offside position and was a yard onside before running on goal. It wasn't even difficult to spot if you're watching the line. Interesting point is that the ref would usually cross his arm over the flag indicating he was coming back from an offside position, like he did a little later, but there was none of it, just a straight arm. That says to me, at least, that he couldn't have been sure and 'guessed' that he was offside. The crowd behind him went apeshit as well.

Sergio's attitude said it all though, grabbing the ball and going to punch it in frustration.

Thanks mate, that decision was huge, almost as big an impact on the outcome as the penalty decision.

[Beefymcfc]

There's been too many decisions not going our way for even the naivist person to just bat off. Penalty decisions, offsides and even the yellow card issue have become a huge pluke on the PLs nose. It's all there for people to see, it's just that people don't want to see it.

And while the media have their favourites and click bait, nothing will change.

[Original Dub]

I still haven't seen a replay of the fernandinho penalty incident.

We're now averaging more than one shocking penalty decision every two matches.

But lately there is a definite surge in bizarre offside calls against us.

It must be so difficult to play under those conditions. Last night was a perfect example of how bad officiating can change the whole course of the match.
We should have been 4 nil up before they scored. I have seen how we play when we go four nil up and it certainly isn't anything like it was for the last 20 mins of that match.

The officials had the players totally shook.

Disgraceful.
Again.

[Beefymcfc]

I still haven't seen a replay of the fernandinho penalty incident.

We're now averaging more than one shocking penalty decision every two matches.

But lately there is a definite surge in bizarre offside calls against us.

It must be so difficult to play under those conditions. Last night was a perfect example of how bad officiating can change the whole course of the match.
We should have been 4 nil up before they scored. I have seen how we play when we go four nil up and it certainly isn't anything like it was for the last 20 mins of that match.

The officials had the players totally shook.

Disgraceful.
Again.

What's interesting is that any tight call should now go to the attacking player. Not seen much of that, have we.

As for Fernandinho, it was stonewall for me. Player just runs into him, knocks him to the ground, then walks away without a care in the world.

When we were shit you could watch games where it always went for the top sides. Rags with their extra minutes, elbows not seen, brutal challenges going unpunished and so on, and I thought that would still be the case for the top clubs. But alas, it's the opposite way around. They still get the calls while we, as a top club, now get the pleasure of the refereeing handicap.

All I want to see is an equal playing field, nothing more, nothing less.

[zuricity]

Beefy as i mentioned in the game thread. On ORF they have a pro ref (retired) to discuss such situations and of the three shouts for a pen last night he was adamant that the last two were clear penalties. Not the UK media mind !

[Crossie]

By this morning our match report on the Daily Fail website was slipped to the 8th story. When the scum, scouse, Arsenal play they stay the headline for at least a full 24 hours. Usually as well, there are multiple articles on the same match for those teams that dominate the headlines.

We don't need anymore proof but it still riles me.