Football Media

[Im_Spartacus]

"Even Raphael Honigstein chimed in to suggest we were never a "great team" just a "team of individuals" that if you remove some of them we fall apart. "

And you say this is biased journalism - for me it is absolutely bang on the fucking money and saying it as it has been for a long time now at city......the manager is the glue that holds this shit together, and has been fucking atrocious at his job if that's what he is here to do

What would unbiased journalists say?

[Beefymcfc]

"Even Raphael Honigstein chimed in to suggest we were never a "great team" just a "team of individuals" that if you remove some of them we fall apart. "

And you say this is biased journalism - for me it is absolutely bang on the fucking money and saying it as it has been for a long time now at city......the manager is the glue that holds this shit together, and has been fucking atrocious at his job if that's what he is here to do

What would unbiased journalists say?

I thought it was a very good post, trying to explain how the media sensationalise everything and don't objectively look the situation and variables.

The part you have chosen is true of nearly every team I've seen and if the likes of Leicester lost a combination of Mahrez, Vardy, Huth and Drinkwater for extended periods then I'd suggest they'd be in the same boat.

The difference is how they'd use the detail to flog the horse, and that's what was being said.

[nottsblue]

Notice the England under 20s had a match report bigger than that of the under 21s in the Mail this morning. I've never seen mention of anything other than the under 21s in the paper before. Why might that be you ask? The three City players? You wouldn't have known they played. But of course.....Lionel Rasherchops played and it was all about how great he is

[Im_Spartacus]

"Even Raphael Honigstein chimed in to suggest we were never a "great team" just a "team of individuals" that if you remove some of them we fall apart. "

And you say this is biased journalism - for me it is absolutely bang on the fucking money and saying it as it has been for a long time now at city......the manager is the glue that holds this shit together, and has been fucking atrocious at his job if that's what he is here to do

What would unbiased journalists say?

I thought it was a very good post, trying to explain how the media sensationalise everything and don't objectively look the situation and variables.

The part you have chosen is true of nearly every team I've seen and if the likes of Leicester lost a combination of Mahrez, Vardy, Huth and Drinkwater for extended periods then I'd suggest they'd be in the same boat.

The difference is how they'd use the detail to flog the horse, and that's what was being said.

The 4 Leicester players you mention are simply the top performers this season in a team that works incredibly hard for each other. If those 4 left but the manager stayed, their results might not be as good as this season, but they would still fundamentally have a team working for each other, busting a gut to win......because the manager makes that happen. We never had that with either Mancini or Pellegrini, so were always vulnerable to an accusation that we relied on talent, and when talent doesn't turn up for an extended period, we are fucked.

What does the mural in the CFA say about talent and hard work? That was put there for a reason, and the team walk past that every day and pay it no heed.

[zuricity]

"Even Raphael Honigstein chimed in to suggest we were never a "great team" just a "team of individuals" that if you remove some of them we fall apart. "

And you say this is biased journalism - for me it is absolutely bang on the fucking money and saying it as it has been for a long time now at city......the manager is the glue that holds this shit together, and has been fucking atrocious at his job if that's what he is here to do

What would unbiased journalists say?

I thought it was a very good post, trying to explain how the media sensationalise everything and don't objectively look the situation and variables.

The part you have chosen is true of nearly every team I've seen and if the likes of Leicester lost a combination of Mahrez, Vardy, Huth and Drinkwater for extended periods then I'd suggest they'd be in the same boat.

The difference is how they'd use the detail to flog the horse, and that's what was being said.

The 4 Leicester players you mention are simply the top performers this season in a team that works incredibly hard for each other. If those 4 left but the manager stayed, their results might not be as good as this season, but they would still fundamentally have a team working for each other, busting a gut to win......because the manager makes that happen. We never had that with either Mancini or Pellegrini, so were always vulnerable to an accusation that we relied on talent, and when talent doesn't turn up for an extended period, we are fucked.

What does the mural in the CFA say about talent and hard work? That was put there for a reason, and the team walk past that every day and pay it no heed.

If you had just written Pellegrini, i could accept it, but don't make Roberto out to be like him, he certainly is not. Mancini is also much better than the tinkler.

[Im_Spartacus]

"Even Raphael Honigstein chimed in to suggest we were never a "great team" just a "team of individuals" that if you remove some of them we fall apart. "

And you say this is biased journalism - for me it is absolutely bang on the fucking money and saying it as it has been for a long time now at city......the manager is the glue that holds this shit together, and has been fucking atrocious at his job if that's what he is here to do

What would unbiased journalists say?

I thought it was a very good post, trying to explain how the media sensationalise everything and don't objectively look the situation and variables.

The part you have chosen is true of nearly every team I've seen and if the likes of Leicester lost a combination of Mahrez, Vardy, Huth and Drinkwater for extended periods then I'd suggest they'd be in the same boat.

The difference is how they'd use the detail to flog the horse, and that's what was being said.

The 4 Leicester players you mention are simply the top performers this season in a team that works incredibly hard for each other. If those 4 left but the manager stayed, their results might not be as good as this season, but they would still fundamentally have a team working for each other, busting a gut to win......because the manager makes that happen. We never had that with either Mancini or Pellegrini, so were always vulnerable to an accusation that we relied on talent, and when talent doesn't turn up for an extended period, we are fucked.

What does the mural in the CFA say about talent and hard work? That was put there for a reason, and the team walk past that every day and pay it no heed.

If you had just written Pellegrini, i could accept it, but don't make Roberto out to be like him, he certainly is not. Mancini is also much better than the tinkler.

Whilst you're entitled to an opinion, history will show that after the 1-5, we toiled for 4 months until Tevez returned and injected some much needed directness into our play. Remarkable similarities to our title winning season under Pellegrini where we smashed the opposition until November, then were largely poor for 4 months until we got our shit together in the last 8 or so games.

In both title winning seasons, the minute teams worked out how to stop us in November, the managers were fucking clueless in how to react for several months, persisted with heavy slow possession based football against massed defences where the team and individuals went into their shell, and scraped over the line after a late rally.

I'm not trying to create a comparison between Mancini and Ranieri as managers overall, I'm simply saying that Ranieri has created a team that is greater than the sum of the parts and deserves massive credit for that. By contrast, neither Pellegrini or Mancini can be credited with that - they won what they did with the best squad, a squad which massively underperformed in nearly half of each title winning season, and a squad whose shortcomings were predictably embarrassing for the club the season after.

[zuricity]

"Even Raphael Honigstein chimed in to suggest we were never a "great team" just a "team of individuals" that if you remove some of them we fall apart. "

And you say this is biased journalism - for me it is absolutely bang on the fucking money and saying it as it has been for a long time now at city......the manager is the glue that holds this shit together, and has been fucking atrocious at his job if that's what he is here to do

What would unbiased journalists say?

I thought it was a very good post, trying to explain how the media sensationalise everything and don't objectively look the situation and variables.

The part you have chosen is true of nearly every team I've seen and if the likes of Leicester lost a combination of Mahrez, Vardy, Huth and Drinkwater for extended periods then I'd suggest they'd be in the same boat.

The difference is how they'd use the detail to flog the horse, and that's what was being said.

The 4 Leicester players you mention are simply the top performers this season in a team that works incredibly hard for each other. If those 4 left but the manager stayed, their results might not be as good as this season, but they would still fundamentally have a team working for each other, busting a gut to win......because the manager makes that happen. We never had that with either Mancini or Pellegrini, so were always vulnerable to an accusation that we relied on talent, and when talent doesn't turn up for an extended period, we are fucked.

What does the mural in the CFA say about talent and hard work? That was put there for a reason, and the team walk past that every day and pay it no heed.

If you had just written Pellegrini, i could accept it, but don't make Roberto out to be like him, he certainly is not. Mancini is also much better than the tinkler.

Whilst you're entitled to an opinion, history will show that after the 1-5, we toiled for 4 months until Tevez returned and injected some much needed directness into our play. Remarkable similarities to our title winning season under Pellegrini where we smashed the opposition until November, then were largely poor for 4 months until we got our shit together in the last 8 or so games.

In both title winning seasons, the minute teams worked out how to stop us in November, the managers were fucking clueless in how to react for several months, persisted with heavy slow possession based football against massed defences where the team and individuals went into their shell, and scraped over the line after a late rally.

I'm not trying to create a comparison between Mancini and Ranieri as managers overall, I'm simply saying that Ranieri has created a team that is greater than the sum of the parts and deserves massive credit for that. By contrast, neither Pellegrini or Mancini can be credited with that - they won what they did with the best squad, a squad which massively underperformed in nearly half of each title winning season, and a squad whose shortcomings were predictably embarrassing for the club the season after.

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It's the casual way you tar Mancini with the same brush as Pellegrini that i disagreed with.

I don't know why you feel the need to write so much .

Has Ranieri created this team ? he tinkered a bit in the summer and added to a team that was in great end of season form

Sure they are doing well but to cast mancini off in the same breath as Pelle, i'm not having that !

Mancini broke the mold in PL football , BF is gone , Wenger will be pushed , Chelsea and Scouse are also rans. It was Mancini at the helm in those important seasons.

Good luck to Leicester, these things happen.

[london blue 2]

Mancini's mind games fucked bacon up bad. Not enough has been made of that.

When people talk about mind games they always refer to Slur Alex as being the master, Mancini taught him a lesson that season.

[Mase]

Mancini's mind games fucked bacon up bad. Not enough has been made of that.

When people talk about mind games they always refer to Slur Alex as being the master, Mancini taught him a lesson that season.

He mind fucked the press as well. I remember when we were mounting a challenge back to the top spot towards the very end of the season in all of his interviews after a winning match he'd say 'it doesn't matter though as Man United have already won the league.' He was taking the piss out of them as THEY were the ones that were assuming the rags had already won the league, but they never got it. It flew over their heads many a time.

[Wonderwall]

Amazing. The BBC were reporting bad news for city fans as zlatans agent has said he won't entertain Manchester city as an option.

Sky sports report that zlatans agents has said every big club has enquired about his availability apart from city who have not made contact.

Just goes to show the BBC for what they are. No agenda my arse

[Beefymcfc]

Amazing. The BBC were reporting bad news for city fans as zlatans agent has said he won't entertain Manchester city as an option.

Sky sports report that zlatans agents has said every big club has enquired about his availability apart from city who have not made contact.

Just goes to show the BBC for what they are. No agenda my arse

Cheeky bastards, we're the only team who don't want him yet we're the ones being tarred fro some reason?

Oh, wait. Did you say the BBC?

Say no more.

[Beefymcfc]

"Even Raphael Honigstein chimed in to suggest we were never a "great team" just a "team of individuals" that if you remove some of them we fall apart. "

And you say this is biased journalism - for me it is absolutely bang on the fucking money and saying it as it has been for a long time now at city......the manager is the glue that holds this shit together, and has been fucking atrocious at his job if that's what he is here to do

What would unbiased journalists say?

I thought it was a very good post, trying to explain how the media sensationalise everything and don't objectively look the situation and variables.

The part you have chosen is true of nearly every team I've seen and if the likes of Leicester lost a combination of Mahrez, Vardy, Huth and Drinkwater for extended periods then I'd suggest they'd be in the same boat.

The difference is how they'd use the detail to flog the horse, and that's what was being said.

The 4 Leicester players you mention are simply the top performers this season in a team that works incredibly hard for each other. If those 4 left but the manager stayed, their results might not be as good as this season, but they would still fundamentally have a team working for each other, busting a gut to win......because the manager makes that happen. We never had that with either Mancini or Pellegrini, so were always vulnerable to an accusation that we relied on talent, and when talent doesn't turn up for an extended period, we are fucked.

What does the mural in the CFA say about talent and hard work? That was put there for a reason, and the team walk past that every day and pay it no heed.

Yes they are, similar to having lost Sergio, Silva, Kev or Kompany. Or you could say Dier, Kane and Alli for Spurs, do you honestly think they'd be the same team without them. Yes, they may work hard but I'd suggest they'd be nothing of what they are at present.

Just one on the hard work piece, I read that Yaya is above, or at least averaging his normal stats for us, running further than anybody across the midfield, even Fernandinho and Navas, yet we say there's no effort. I personally think we do give effort, it's just that our slow build-up detracts from what they do.

[olyaci]

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[Im_Spartacus]

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[The Maine Man]

Oh dear, it's Nasri's turn to gob off about the opposition on the eve of a big game. I was quietly confident, now it's bound to be an embarrassing humping as they turn up fired up and ready to make him eat his words. Thanks Samir.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Oh dear, it's Nasri's turn to gob off about the opposition on the eve of a big game. I was quietly confident, now it's bound to be an embarrassing humping as they turn up fired up and ready to make him eat his words. Thanks Samir.

What's he said? Not that I think PSG will take much notice of the shit that's spouted in obligatory pre match interviews.

[Beefymcfc]

What's Nasri got to do with it, he's not even on the squad list.

[Hazy2]

What's Nasri got to do with it, he's not even on the squad list.

Mr Popular strikes again, he Marseille BTW which explains his comments.

[Beefymcfc]

Just read an article in the DM which basically gives us the detail of the next few years under PG, but then he's gone. Strange article that could only have been written for the Rag clicks.

[Im_Spartacus]

Just read an article in the DM which basically gives us the detail of the next few years under PG, but then he's gone. Strange article that could only have been written for the Rag clicks.

In fairness, he does seem to like a 3 year term, as do City. It would be more surprising if he stayed longer for me