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Re: Football Media

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Sep 07, 2016 4:44 pm

JamieMCFC wrote:I don’t find elite football as interesting to watch any more, especially in England. You hear about people saying English football’s the best football there is around. I think Spain’s by far the best league. Germany has better teams. In Italy probably the strength in depth isn’t great. They talk about Italy being a bad league but I don’t think English people look at it. They say it’s boring. No chance. The Juventus team would beat any team in this league. They came up to Manchester City and beat them easy. But we have this interpretation of the Italian league that it’s rubbish. They only try to defend. No chance.

The Spanish league’s the best by far if you’re judging on the European competitions. In the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the Europa League in 2015–16, they had six of the 16 teams. Nearly half of them. The Premier League had just two.

There needs to be a real step up in quality in England. Other than Sergio Agüero, Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva, we don’t have the best players. All the best players are in other countries.

The best players are in Spain or at Bayern Munich and Juventus. We’re linked with big players – Gareth Bale is a top player – but we don’t get them now. Not any more. You never see a Lionel Messi coming over here, you never see a Neymar in the Premier League.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... are_btn_tw



What a crock of pure drivel.

Most watched football league in the world....year after year after year after year after year.

Best attendences

Best.....

Best.....

Best.....

Put in anything alongside, as it will be the best and is the best.

Italian league, piss funny.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:31 pm

JamieMCFC wrote:I don’t find elite football as interesting to watch any more, especially in England. You hear about people saying English football’s the best football there is around. I think Spain’s by far the best league. Germany has better teams. In Italy probably the strength in depth isn’t great. They talk about Italy being a bad league but I don’t think English people look at it. They say it’s boring. No chance. The Juventus team would beat any team in this league. They came up to Manchester City and beat them easy. But we have this interpretation of the Italian league that it’s rubbish. They only try to defend. No chance.

The Spanish league’s the best by far if you’re judging on the European competitions. In the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the Europa League in 2015–16, they had six of the 16 teams. Nearly half of them. The Premier League had just two.

There needs to be a real step up in quality in England. Other than Sergio Agüero, Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva, we don’t have the best players. All the best players are in other countries.

The best players are in Spain or at Bayern Munich and Juventus. We’re linked with big players – Gareth Bale is a top player – but we don’t get them now. Not any more. You never see a Lionel Messi coming over here, you never see a Neymar in the Premier League.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... are_btn_tw

The best league in the world is the PL. No ifs, no buts.

And the reason why, because City are fucking in it and now we are competing I cannot believe your talking sure shit.

I suppose you had a 2nd club when we were shit?
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Re: Football Media

Postby patrickblue » Wed Sep 07, 2016 8:57 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
JamieMCFC wrote:I don’t find elite football as interesting to watch any more, especially in England. You hear about people saying English football’s the best football there is around. I think Spain’s by far the best league. Germany has better teams. In Italy probably the strength in depth isn’t great. They talk about Italy being a bad league but I don’t think English people look at it. They say it’s boring. No chance. The Juventus team would beat any team in this league. They came up to Manchester City and beat them easy. But we have this interpretation of the Italian league that it’s rubbish. They only try to defend. No chance.

The Spanish league’s the best by far if you’re judging on the European competitions. In the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the Europa League in 2015–16, they had six of the 16 teams. Nearly half of them. The Premier League had just two.

There needs to be a real step up in quality in England. Other than Sergio Agüero, Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva, we don’t have the best players. All the best players are in other countries.

The best players are in Spain or at Bayern Munich and Juventus. We’re linked with big players – Gareth Bale is a top player – but we don’t get them now. Not any more. You never see a Lionel Messi coming over here, you never see a Neymar in the Premier League.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... are_btn_tw

The best league in the world is the PL. No ifs, no buts.

And the reason why, because City are fucking in it and now we are competing I cannot believe your talking sure shit.

I suppose you had a 2nd club when we were shit?


It's not Jamie saying that Beefy, it's a quote from Scholes in the Guardian.
Jamie doesn't make that very clear in his post, it fooled me for a while too.
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Re: Football Media

Postby PrezIke » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:21 pm

Original Dub wrote:Not sure if this fits in "media" per say...

But a 34 year old Zlatan is the best player in the entire premier league on FIFA 17??

Get fucked.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/ ... on-fifa-17?


Another example as to why FM is better on this kind of thing.

Vinny is the best defender in case anyone didn't notice.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Beefymcfc » Wed Sep 07, 2016 10:27 pm

patrickblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
JamieMCFC wrote:I don’t find elite football as interesting to watch any more, especially in England. You hear about people saying English football’s the best football there is around. I think Spain’s by far the best league. Germany has better teams. In Italy probably the strength in depth isn’t great. They talk about Italy being a bad league but I don’t think English people look at it. They say it’s boring. No chance. The Juventus team would beat any team in this league. They came up to Manchester City and beat them easy. But we have this interpretation of the Italian league that it’s rubbish. They only try to defend. No chance.

The Spanish league’s the best by far if you’re judging on the European competitions. In the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the Europa League in 2015–16, they had six of the 16 teams. Nearly half of them. The Premier League had just two.

There needs to be a real step up in quality in England. Other than Sergio Agüero, Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva, we don’t have the best players. All the best players are in other countries.

The best players are in Spain or at Bayern Munich and Juventus. We’re linked with big players – Gareth Bale is a top player – but we don’t get them now. Not any more. You never see a Lionel Messi coming over here, you never see a Neymar in the Premier League.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... are_btn_tw

The best league in the world is the PL. No ifs, no buts.

And the reason why, because City are fucking in it and now we are competing I cannot believe your talking sure shit.

I suppose you had a 2nd club when we were shit?


It's not Jamie saying that Beefy, it's a quote from Scholes in the Guardian.
Jamie doesn't make that very clear in his post, it fooled me for a while too.

Ah, apologies Jamie, didn't think you were that idiotic.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Two's Kompany » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:48 am

Nice balance from SSN this morning!!!!!!
"We've got 2 former people who've been on the inside of the game."
Cuts to scholes who goes on about scoring the winner in the 93rd minute and seeing City fans gutted.
For us they have Pearce whose highlight was 1-1 draw.

YCNMIU but sky are the biggest bastards around for this. Get some of the 74 team on!
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Re: Football Media

Postby Hazy2 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:06 pm

Pep now knows the Friday Presser are full of rags with a grudge, hope he owts one or two of the scumlovers.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Original Dub » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:15 pm

About as biased as you'd get.
Why stop at 2008? Why not start in 1998?

Check out where they say they only spent big after ferguson left. Pmsl. The cunt spent a fortune from day one.

Enjoy

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Re: Football Media

Postby Hazy2 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 1:47 pm

Gringo Twatburger wrote:
Mase wrote:Did we win our group or come second to Juve?


Finally we fucking agree, fuckholio.

cheers

P.S. To the poster who said that Serie A is done or finished or whatever...it's actually nothing like it was a decade ago. It's got some verve and skill and fun. I love it.

And the Spanish league is defo not the fucking *best*...it's like a league with three Manchester fucking Uniteds, and 15 teams managed by ex-Rags who bend over for the 3 fucking Manchesters United....and a couple others sprinkled in for good measure to try and work to win the Europa league. Hardly anything interesting to me really.

I feel like my keyboard is set to "Mancio." Fuck me.

cheers again


Sorry Gringo 35,000 for Lazio v Juve 1st game of the season in a stadium that holds 80,000 is hardly verve, I love the big games screened here, sadly the Italian football fan left the building years ago.
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Re: Football Media

Postby patrickblue » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:09 pm

And in contrast, a realy refreshing piece from CNN.

http://us.cnn.com/2016/09/08/football/manchester-transforming-city-and-the-city-sheikh-mansour-abu-dhabi-gundogan-iheanacho/index.html

How an Abu Dhabi billionaire is transforming not just City, but the city

By Henry Young, CNN

Updated 9:47 AM ET, Thu September 8, 2016
Story highlights



Manchester, England (CNN)If Manchester City used to be the club boasting high-profile signings on provocative billboards, these days this northern English city's "noisy neighbor" is taking a more softly, softly approach.
Ahead of Saturday's derby against rival Manchester United, it's all about the grand scheme for a club that was once written off for having "a small mentaliity."

"It's been a bit like an iceberg coming out of the water," says Manchester City Chief Infrastructure Officer, John Stemp. "People only see the tip of it."
Given City were playing in England's third tier in 1999, the club's ascent to English football's top table initially necessitated the acquisition of players -- an investment of just under $1 billion since the Abu Dhabi United Group took over.
Within hours of the club changing hands, City had smashed the British transfer record for Real Madrid's Robinho. City's transfer policy was denigrated -- the new kids on the block were branded oil rich and regarded by many as no more than a billionaire's plaything.
But Sheikh Mansour and his team have never lost sight of the bigger picture...
You can win anything with kids
"People were measuring the investments in the short-term without knowing there was a long-term plan coming," says Stemp.
Beneath the surface, greater plans have been afoot ever since Mansour declared in 2008: "We are building a structure for the future, not just a team of all-stars."
In the heart of the Etihad Campus, deep within the area of Manchester known as "Sportscity," the 5,000-seater, 7,000 capacity Academy Stadium is the shining jewel in one of the finest youth complexes in the world.
The Academy Stadium is predominantly used by the Elite Development squad and Manchester City Women. "I like to think of us as pioneers ... not just in England, but globally," says Man City and England Ladies midfielder Izzy Christiansen.
The Academy Stadium is predominantly used by the Elite Development squad and Manchester City Women. "I like to think of us as pioneers ... not just in England, but globally," says Man City and England Ladies midfielder Izzy Christiansen.
In fixtures against United last season, City went unbeaten in every age group, from the Under-9s all the way up to the U18s.
A 9-0 aggregate win at U14 level against the Red Devils will have been particularly galling for a club so proud of Ferguson's Class of '92 -- featuring the likes of David Beckham -- and the Busby Babes.
In an age when many of the world's wealthiest clubs' academies are filled with many different nationalities, 75% of the players in City's Football Academy itself are drawn from the Greater Manchester area.
All in all, the club engages with "the best part of 50,000 young people in Manchester every year," according to former City goalkeeper Alex Williams -- today Manager of City in the Community.
Even United luminaries Robin van Persie, Phil Neville, Andrew Cole and Darren Fletcher have opted to send their sons to the Etihad Campus instead of the Trafford Training Centre in recent years.
Stemp allows himself a contented smile. "Now, eight years on, you see the rest of the investment plan emerging."
The Mission
Part of the legacy of the 2002 Commonwealth Games, the Etihad Stadium was the "first brick in the wall," according to Stemp.
Ever since, City plots its expansion in terms of "building blocks of eureka moments," from the transformation of blighted lands with the construction of the training complex, to the development of commercial opportunities around the East Manchester site.
Within a stone's throw of the Etihad, remnants of Manchester's industrial past are still very much visible -- disused gas holders dot the landscape while a canal runs side-by-side with the city's new tram network.

"East Manchester was all industrial, and therefore the ideal location for regeneration," Stemp tells CNN.
But 80 acres of contaminated brownfield land have been transformed by self-confessed "grass nerd" Stemp and his team; 46 acres now comprise managed grass and wildflower meadows; and more than 2,000 trees have been planted.
"It was very derelict," reflects Stemp, geesturing to the work the club has done. "We put our arms around the land and took control of it."
The final piece in the puzzle
As well as the physical building blocks, City officials believe coach Pep Guardiola is the final piece in a complex puzzle.
"I have no doubt about his positive impact," City's chief operating officer Omar Berrada tells CNN. "We've already expanded the stadium and we think [Guardiola] will bring the potential for continued expansion."
"Pep delivers a culture of success and style of play that will be developed across everything that we're doing here," says Berrada. "I'm sure that will have long-lasting effects"
Pep Guardiola already seems at home at the Etihad.
Pep Guardiola already seems at home at the Etihad.
Berrada branded Guardiola "the best in the world" within days of his arrival in a reference to the success he brought to his former clubs, Bayern Munich and Barcelona.
Guardiola's reputation is also helping lure the world's finest players to Manchester as the club bids to win its third title in six seasons.
Gundogan
Guardiola's first foray into the market was for Dortmund midfielder, Ilkay Gundogan -- a distinguished German international.
"To have this possibility is amazing for me," Gundogan tells CNN. "We have the best manager in the world, and day-by-day I recognize I have made the right decision."

Ilkay Gundogan began his career at VFL Bochum, going on to star for FC Nurnberg & Borussia Dortmund
The 25-year-old may have only been at the club for a matter of months, but he already perceives the investment transforming not just City, but the city.
"Everything is developing really fast. I love the mix between old buildings and the new buildings," continues Gundogan.
"Manchester has a real charm."

If the acquisition of players of Gundogan's stature is no longer breaking news for a club that has come so far, Kelechi Iheanacho's breakthrough from the academy shows progress is being made in all departments.
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The Nigerian had the best minutes- per-goal ratio in the entire Premier League, scoring on average every 93.8 minutes.
Smashing through a glass ceiling that traditionally has proven so troublesome for young players aiming to make it in the world's richest league, the 19-year-old scored 14 goals in just 11 starts last season -- suggesting he has the mettle to become one of the most clinical finishers in Europe.
With key striker Sergio Aguero serving a three-match ban, Iheanacho could start against United Saturday.
"City were a club on the way up," Iheanacho tells CNN, reflecting on his perception of the club when he joined, shortly after winning the U17 World Cup with Nigeria.
"Coming from Nigeria where I was often unable to afford to watch the Premier League, I'm very proud to be playing here. It has been a great experience coming to Manchester."
Citizens beyond The Citizens
However, in an age of growing discord between fan and player -- as both Iheanacho and Gundogan earn tens of thousands of dollars per week -- how has the club's investment in its future served the rest of Manchester?
Working at Bonnies Cafe near the Etihad Campus, Sheila Duffy has experienced the fruits of the area's regeneration -- as well as the potential pitfalls of gentrification -- first-hand.
"We had drugs, street crime, everything like that, and nobody cared because it was derelict," she reflects. "The swimming baths were closed down, the youth club was shut. There was nothing for the kids so they'd be hanging around on street corners."
Duffy acknowledges the "Sheikh up in his helicopter" may not have directly engaged with the man on the ground and his full English breakfast, but she's the first to admit her surroundings have changed dramatically -- a reference to the five and half acres of the Etihad Campus site having been donated to the local community.
Where the skeletons of Manchester's industrial boom once stood, a sixth form college, leisure center, and cutting edge medical institute now preside.
"It was a rough area of the city and now there's certainly a sense of hope ... and I'm a Manchester United supporter!"

A 190m span bridge across Alan Turing way is emblematic of the connection between club and community.
Pep vs. Jose
If the foundations are in place, can City make good on the club's rich promise?
While Iheanacho may be a singular talent, his presence as a youth team graduate in the Citizens squad currently remains similarly conspicuous.
Promisingly, Guardiola gave 22 young players debuts during his time at Barcelona -- many of whom, from Busquets to Thiago Alcântara, have gone on to enjoy great success.
But there is still some way to go before City emerges from United's shadow in this regard.
Nicky Butt, Ryan Giggs, David Beckham, Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Phil Neville would all go on to become United regulars having progressed from the youth team under Sir Alex Ferguson.

Since 1940, almost 50% of all Manchester United players have come through the club's youth system. United has had at least one academy player in the squad in every first team game since October 1937 -- a run spanning 3,808 consecutive clashes.
Eighteen-year-old striker Marcus Rashford looks the latest in a long line set to benefit from that unwavering faith this year -- even if Jose Mourinho's commitment to youth has been questioned, and fellow "homegrown" player Paul Pogba required a $100M education abroad.
Except the envious glances toward Old Trafford have stopped.
Converging with its more illustrious counterpart on and off the pitch, City has finished above United in four of the past five seasons, and Mourinho looks like he has quite the job on his hands getting the better of his old rival Guardiola.

CNN's Charlie Gibson also contributed to this report.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:48 pm

Original Dub wrote:About as biased as you'd get.
Why stop at 2008? Why not start in 1998?

Check out where they say they only spent big after ferguson left. Pmsl. The cunt spent a fortune from day one.

Enjoy

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He turned up with the most expensive squad in English history for the 5-1 humiliation in 1989.
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Re: Football Media

Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:11 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
Gringo Twatburger wrote:
Mase wrote:Did we win our group or come second to Juve?


Finally we fucking agree, fuckholio.

cheers

P.S. To the poster who said that Serie A is done or finished or whatever...it's actually nothing like it was a decade ago. It's got some verve and skill and fun. I love it.

And the Spanish league is defo not the fucking *best*...it's like a league with three Manchester fucking Uniteds, and 15 teams managed by ex-Rags who bend over for the 3 fucking Manchesters United....and a couple others sprinkled in for good measure to try and work to win the Europa league. Hardly anything interesting to me really.

I feel like my keyboard is set to "Mancio." Fuck me.

cheers again


Sorry Gringo 35,000 for Lazio v Juve 1st game of the season in a stadium that holds 80,000 is hardly verve, I love the big games screened here, sadly the Italian football fan left the building years ago.


the product on the pitch is what i'm talking about...how the fuck does a packed house create "verve"? Juve, arguably their biggest club historically, has never drawn much of a crowd. That's not atypical in Italia, is it?

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Re: Football Media

Postby JamieMCFC » Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:16 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
patrickblue wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:
JamieMCFC wrote:I don’t find elite football as interesting to watch any more, especially in England. You hear about people saying English football’s the best football there is around. I think Spain’s by far the best league. Germany has better teams. In Italy probably the strength in depth isn’t great. They talk about Italy being a bad league but I don’t think English people look at it. They say it’s boring. No chance. The Juventus team would beat any team in this league. They came up to Manchester City and beat them easy. But we have this interpretation of the Italian league that it’s rubbish. They only try to defend. No chance.

The Spanish league’s the best by far if you’re judging on the European competitions. In the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the Europa League in 2015–16, they had six of the 16 teams. Nearly half of them. The Premier League had just two.

There needs to be a real step up in quality in England. Other than Sergio Agüero, Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva, we don’t have the best players. All the best players are in other countries.

The best players are in Spain or at Bayern Munich and Juventus. We’re linked with big players – Gareth Bale is a top player – but we don’t get them now. Not any more. You never see a Lionel Messi coming over here, you never see a Neymar in the Premier League.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... are_btn_tw

The best league in the world is the PL. No ifs, no buts.

And the reason why, because City are fucking in it and now we are competing I cannot believe your talking sure shit.

I suppose you had a 2nd club when we were shit?


It's not Jamie saying that Beefy, it's a quote from Scholes in the Guardian.
Jamie doesn't make that very clear in his post, it fooled me for a while too.

Ah, apologies Jamie, didn't think you were that idiotic.


No worries I should have been more clear when I posted that idiots comments.
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Re: Football Media

Postby nottsblue » Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:59 pm

patrickblue wrote:And in contrast, a realy refreshing piece from CNN.

http://us.cnn.com/2016/09/08/football/manchester-transforming-city-and-the-city-sheikh-mansour-abu-dhabi-gundogan-iheanacho/index.html

How an Abu Dhabi billionaire is transforming not just City, but the city

By Henry Young, CNN

Updated 9:47 AM ET, Thu September 8, 2016
Story highlights



Manchester, England (CNN)If Manchester City used to be the club boasting high-profile signings on provocative billboards, these days this northern English city's "noisy neighbor" is taking a more softly, softly approach.
Ahead of Saturday's derby against rival Manchester United, it's all about the grand scheme for a club that was once written off for having "a small mentaliity."

"It's been a bit like an iceberg coming out of the water," says Manchester City Chief Infrastructure Officer, John Stemp. "People only see the tip of it."
Given City were playing in England's third tier in 1999, the club's ascent to English football's top table initially necessitated the acquisition of players -- an investment of just under $1 billion since the Abu Dhabi United Group took over.
Within hours of the club changing hands, City had smashed the British transfer record for Real Madrid's Robinho. City's transfer policy was denigrated -- the new kids on the block were branded oil rich and regarded by many as no more than a billionaire's plaything.
But Sheikh Mansour and his team have never lost sight of the bigger picture...
You can win anything with kids
"People were measuring the investments in the short-term without knowing there was a long-term plan coming," says Stemp.
Beneath the surface, greater plans have been afoot ever since Mansour declared in 2008: "We are building a structure for the future, not just a team of all-stars."
In the heart of the Etihad Campus, deep within the area of Manchester known as "Sportscity," the 5,000-seater, 7,000 capacity Academy Stadium is the shining jewel in one of the finest youth complexes in the world.
The Academy Stadium is predominantly used by the Elite Development squad and Manchester City Women. "I like to think of us as pioneers ... not just in England, but globally," says Man City and England Ladies midfielder Izzy Christiansen.
The Academy Stadium is predominantly used by the Elite Development squad and Manchester City Women. "I like to think of us as pioneers ... not just in England, but globally," says Man City and England Ladies midfielder Izzy Christiansen.
In fixtures against United last season, City went unbeaten in every age group, from the Under-9s all the way up to the U18s.
A 9-0 aggregate win at U14 level against the Red Devils will have been particularly galling for a club so proud of Ferguson's Class of '92 -- featuring the likes of David Beckham -- and the Busby Babes.
In an age when many of the world's wealthiest clubs' academies are filled with many different nationalities, 75% of the players in City's Football Academy itself are drawn from the Greater Manchester area.
All in all, the club engages with "the best part of 50,000 young people in Manchester every year," according to former City goalkeeper Alex Williams -- today Manager of City in the Community.
Even United luminaries Robin van Persie, Phil Neville, Andrew Cole and Darren Fletcher have opted to send their sons to the Etihad Campus instead of the Trafford Training Centre in recent years.
Stemp allows himself a contented smile. "Now, eight years on, you see the rest of the investment plan emerging."
The Mission
Part of the legacy of the 2002 Commonwealth Games, the Etihad Stadium was the "first brick in the wall," according to Stemp.
Ever since, City plots its expansion in terms of "building blocks of eureka moments," from the transformation of blighted lands with the construction of the training complex, to the development of commercial opportunities around the East Manchester site.
Within a stone's throw of the Etihad, remnants of Manchester's industrial past are still very much visible -- disused gas holders dot the landscape while a canal runs side-by-side with the city's new tram network.

"East Manchester was all industrial, and therefore the ideal location for regeneration," Stemp tells CNN.
But 80 acres of contaminated brownfield land have been transformed by self-confessed "grass nerd" Stemp and his team; 46 acres now comprise managed grass and wildflower meadows; and more than 2,000 trees have been planted.
"It was very derelict," reflects Stemp, geesturing to the work the club has done. "We put our arms around the land and took control of it."
The final piece in the puzzle
As well as the physical building blocks, City officials believe coach Pep Guardiola is the final piece in a complex puzzle.
"I have no doubt about his positive impact," City's chief operating officer Omar Berrada tells CNN. "We've already expanded the stadium and we think [Guardiola] will bring the potential for continued expansion."
"Pep delivers a culture of success and style of play that will be developed across everything that we're doing here," says Berrada. "I'm sure that will have long-lasting effects"
Pep Guardiola already seems at home at the Etihad.
Pep Guardiola already seems at home at the Etihad.
Berrada branded Guardiola "the best in the world" within days of his arrival in a reference to the success he brought to his former clubs, Bayern Munich and Barcelona.
Guardiola's reputation is also helping lure the world's finest players to Manchester as the club bids to win its third title in six seasons.
Gundogan
Guardiola's first foray into the market was for Dortmund midfielder, Ilkay Gundogan -- a distinguished German international.
"To have this possibility is amazing for me," Gundogan tells CNN. "We have the best manager in the world, and day-by-day I recognize I have made the right decision."

Ilkay Gundogan began his career at VFL Bochum, going on to star for FC Nurnberg & Borussia Dortmund
The 25-year-old may have only been at the club for a matter of months, but he already perceives the investment transforming not just City, but the city.
"Everything is developing really fast. I love the mix between old buildings and the new buildings," continues Gundogan.
"Manchester has a real charm."

If the acquisition of players of Gundogan's stature is no longer breaking news for a club that has come so far, Kelechi Iheanacho's breakthrough from the academy shows progress is being made in all departments.
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The Nigerian had the best minutes- per-goal ratio in the entire Premier League, scoring on average every 93.8 minutes.
Smashing through a glass ceiling that traditionally has proven so troublesome for young players aiming to make it in the world's richest league, the 19-year-old scored 14 goals in just 11 starts last season -- suggesting he has the mettle to become one of the most clinical finishers in Europe.
With key striker Sergio Aguero serving a three-match ban, Iheanacho could start against United Saturday.
"City were a club on the way up," Iheanacho tells CNN, reflecting on his perception of the club when he joined, shortly after winning the U17 World Cup with Nigeria.
"Coming from Nigeria where I was often unable to afford to watch the Premier League, I'm very proud to be playing here. It has been a great experience coming to Manchester."
Citizens beyond The Citizens
However, in an age of growing discord between fan and player -- as both Iheanacho and Gundogan earn tens of thousands of dollars per week -- how has the club's investment in its future served the rest of Manchester?
Working at Bonnies Cafe near the Etihad Campus, Sheila Duffy has experienced the fruits of the area's regeneration -- as well as the potential pitfalls of gentrification -- first-hand.
"We had drugs, street crime, everything like that, and nobody cared because it was derelict," she reflects. "The swimming baths were closed down, the youth club was shut. There was nothing for the kids so they'd be hanging around on street corners."
Duffy acknowledges the "Sheikh up in his helicopter" may not have directly engaged with the man on the ground and his full English breakfast, but she's the first to admit her surroundings have changed dramatically -- a reference to the five and half acres of the Etihad Campus site having been donated to the local community.
Where the skeletons of Manchester's industrial boom once stood, a sixth form college, leisure center, and cutting edge medical institute now preside.
"It was a rough area of the city and now there's certainly a sense of hope ... and I'm a Manchester United supporter!"

A 190m span bridge across Alan Turing way is emblematic of the connection between club and community.
Pep vs. Jose
If the foundations are in place, can City make good on the club's rich promise?
While Iheanacho may be a singular talent, his presence as a youth team graduate in the Citizens squad currently remains similarly conspicuous.
Promisingly, Guardiola gave 22 young players debuts during his time at Barcelona -- many of whom, from Busquets to Thiago Alcântara, have gone on to enjoy great success.
But there is still some way to go before City emerges from United's shadow in this regard.
Nicky Butt, Ryan Giggs, David Beckham, Gary Neville, Paul Scholes and Phil Neville would all go on to become United regulars having progressed from the youth team under Sir Alex Ferguson.

Since 1940, almost 50% of all Manchester United players have come through the club's youth system. United has had at least one academy player in the squad in every first team game since October 1937 -- a run spanning 3,808 consecutive clashes.
Eighteen-year-old striker Marcus Rashford looks the latest in a long line set to benefit from that unwavering faith this year -- even if Jose Mourinho's commitment to youth has been questioned, and fellow "homegrown" player Paul Pogba required a $100M education abroad.
Except the envious glances toward Old Trafford have stopped.
Converging with its more illustrious counterpart on and off the pitch, City has finished above United in four of the past five seasons, and Mourinho looks like he has quite the job on his hands getting the better of his old rival Guardiola.

CNN's Charlie Gibson also contributed to this report.

Nice read.

Not having it that nearly half of Uniteds players have come through the clubs youth system. Going to call bullshit on that one
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Re: Football Media

Postby patrickblue » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:09 pm

It's saying since 1940. I would imagine that most clubs had a similar ratio up until the mid 80's.
Then the rags have the advantage of having half a dozen come through all at once in the early nineties, and have made up half the team until relatively recently.
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Postby Original Dub » Thu Sep 08, 2016 5:42 pm

Ssn showing the head to head for the last 19 derbies.

Odd number.

Mind you, it was odd the head to head spending only went back to 2008, so I'm sure they have their reasons...
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Re: Football Media

Postby Hazy2 » Thu Sep 08, 2016 6:27 pm

Gringo Twatburger wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Gringo Twatburger wrote:
Mase wrote:Did we win our group or come second to Juve?


Finally we fucking agree, fuckholio.

cheers

P.S. To the poster who said that Serie A is done or finished or whatever...it's actually nothing like it was a decade ago. It's got some verve and skill and fun. I love it.

And the Spanish league is defo not the fucking *best*...it's like a league with three Manchester fucking Uniteds, and 15 teams managed by ex-Rags who bend over for the 3 fucking Manchesters United....and a couple others sprinkled in for good measure to try and work to win the Europa league. Hardly anything interesting to me really.

I feel like my keyboard is set to "Mancio." Fuck me.

cheers again


Sorry Gringo 35,000 for Lazio v Juve 1st game of the season in a stadium that holds 80,000 is hardly verve, I love the big games screened here, sadly the Italian football fan left the building years ago.


the product on the pitch is what i'm talking about...how the fuck does a packed house create "verve"? Juve, arguably their biggest club historically, has never drawn much of a crowd. That's not atypical in Italia, is it?

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Re: Football Media

Postby DoomMerchant » Thu Sep 08, 2016 7:24 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
Gringo Twatburger wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
Gringo Twatburger wrote:
Mase wrote:Did we win our group or come second to Juve?


Finally we fucking agree, fuckholio.

cheers

P.S. To the poster who said that Serie A is done or finished or whatever...it's actually nothing like it was a decade ago. It's got some verve and skill and fun. I love it.

And the Spanish league is defo not the fucking *best*...it's like a league with three Manchester fucking Uniteds, and 15 teams managed by ex-Rags who bend over for the 3 fucking Manchesters United....and a couple others sprinkled in for good measure to try and work to win the Europa league. Hardly anything interesting to me really.

I feel like my keyboard is set to "Mancio." Fuck me.

cheers again


Sorry Gringo 35,000 for Lazio v Juve 1st game of the season in a stadium that holds 80,000 is hardly verve, I love the big games screened here, sadly the Italian football fan left the building years ago.


the product on the pitch is what i'm talking about...how the fuck does a packed house create "verve"? Juve, arguably their biggest club historically, has never drawn much of a crowd. That's not atypical in Italia, is it?

cheqers[/quote

I can't be arsed cheers.


great. i won't have to read your mostly confusing response then.

cheers
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Re: Football Media

Postby Beefymcfc » Thu Sep 08, 2016 9:41 pm

JamieMCFC wrote:
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JamieMCFC wrote:I don’t find elite football as interesting to watch any more, especially in England. You hear about people saying English football’s the best football there is around. I think Spain’s by far the best league. Germany has better teams. In Italy probably the strength in depth isn’t great. They talk about Italy being a bad league but I don’t think English people look at it. They say it’s boring. No chance. The Juventus team would beat any team in this league. They came up to Manchester City and beat them easy. But we have this interpretation of the Italian league that it’s rubbish. They only try to defend. No chance.

The Spanish league’s the best by far if you’re judging on the European competitions. In the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the Europa League in 2015–16, they had six of the 16 teams. Nearly half of them. The Premier League had just two.

There needs to be a real step up in quality in England. Other than Sergio Agüero, Kevin De Bruyne and David Silva, we don’t have the best players. All the best players are in other countries.

The best players are in Spain or at Bayern Munich and Juventus. We’re linked with big players – Gareth Bale is a top player – but we don’t get them now. Not any more. You never see a Lionel Messi coming over here, you never see a Neymar in the Premier League.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... are_btn_tw

The best league in the world is the PL. No ifs, no buts.

And the reason why, because City are fucking in it and now we are competing I cannot believe your talking sure shit.

I suppose you had a 2nd club when we were shit?


It's not Jamie saying that Beefy, it's a quote from Scholes in the Guardian.
Jamie doesn't make that very clear in his post, it fooled me for a while too.

Ah, apologies Jamie, didn't think you were that idiotic.


No worries I should have been more clear when I posted that idiots comments.

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Re: Football Media

Postby PrezIke » Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:20 pm

So sick of the pot shots at Guardiola and our club by all these ex-Utd players. I know it's preaching to the choir, but these new Schmeichel comments are making my blood boil.
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