Fat Cats carve-up

[Wonderwall]

Considering the attendance was only 30k (seemed like more tbh) the atmosphere was very good IMO.
I have been to see games with 54k there and it wasn't as loud.

[Mikhail Chigorin]

So, boo whilst doing the Poznan.
Followed by a rendition of Bluemoon whilst mooning.
Sounds like a plan.

With a bit of multi-tasking thrown in for good measure.

Excellent.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Some fans have to stop being wimps bowing down to peps request.
He's just arrived and we have been shafted by UEFA for years and so the booing has to go on and on and on - louder than last time to drive the point home to pep that we are City fans more loyal to our club than to any manager.

Fucking UEFA , corrupt pigs.

As I said previously Carl, I have no problem with the booing if that's the form of protest people choose.
I think calling people wimps who are suggesting a different protest is knee jerk though. I haven't come across anyone on here saying to give up protesting because of Pep.
Some have suggested doing something that has s more positive affect on the team.

Personally I think that is worth looking at.
I do think you are right that the protest should be more vociferous as a result of both Peps comments and the dirty plans being suggested by Gill and co.
Whether that protest is booing or something else that may be equally or more conspicuous on tv and yet have a positive affect on the atmosphere and the team is what is being debated.

It just gets my goat up when I hear some city fans call the booing pathetic and we should listen to Pep - believe me , they are out there.

I agree with Pep ,as I've stated , regardless of a postponement ,we should be filling the stadium and not half fill it.
Some would disagree and that's fine , it's just
My pennies worth , this kind of football you only see at the nou camp -id love to be there.

[Original Dub]

Some fans have to stop being wimps bowing down to peps request.
He's just arrived and we have been shafted by UEFA for years and so the booing has to go on and on and on - louder than last time to drive the point home to pep that we are City fans more loyal to our club than to any manager.

Fucking UEFA , corrupt pigs.

As I said previously Carl, I have no problem with the booing if that's the form of protest people choose.
I think calling people wimps who are suggesting a different protest is knee jerk though. I haven't come across anyone on here saying to give up protesting because of Pep.
Some have suggested doing something that has s more positive affect on the team.

Personally I think that is worth looking at.
I do think you are right that the protest should be more vociferous as a result of both Peps comments and the dirty plans being suggested by Gill and co.
Whether that protest is booing or something else that may be equally or more conspicuous on tv and yet have a positive affect on the atmosphere and the team is what is being debated.

It just gets my goat up when I hear some city fans call the booing pathetic and we should listen to Pep - believe me , they are out there.

I agree with Pep ,as I've stated , regardless of a postponement ,we should be filling the stadium and not half fill it.

I honestly believe the attendances and the leaving early can only be tackled properly when the atmosphere problem is sorted.

I know the atmosphere was good on wed and has been on occassion but if the place was rocking regularly more people would go.

If it is truly down to money then the only answer is keeping the prices down.

But I think if the club concentrated on elements of atmosphere like pushing new, consistant chants and improve the acoustics if that is affecting things...

I'm not an expert on these things but I believe the answer is in there somewhere.

Obviously winning trophies brings more fans but the full experience should be breathtaking as often as possible

[johnny crossan]

new piece by Martin Samuel today

Sorry Pep Guardiola, Manchester City fans are right to boo UEFA hypocrites

• Manchester City fans have been booing the Champions League anthem
  Pep Guardiola told supporters to forget the past issues in the competition
  City have worked their way up only to see UEFA benefit the establishment
  Fans have the right to protest - and to boo UEFA, because they deserve it
  

By MARTIN SAMUEL - SPORT FOR THE DAILY MAIL
PUBLISHED: 22:31, 18 September 2016 | UPDATED: 01:29, 19 September 2016

Pep Guardiola is doing a wonderful job at Manchester City. Eight matches, eight wins, breaking a record that stretched back to the days when opponents included Gainsborough Trinity, Woolwich Arsenal and Darwen.
He has coached Kevin De Bruyne to the form of his life, Raheem Sterling is going that way, too — and already his ideas feel like revolution, evolution and everything in between.
On the subject of UEFA, however, he would do well to mind his own. This is the City fans' specialist subject and he cannot begin to understand how his supporters feel about Europe's governing body.

Pep Guardiola has told Manchester City fans to forget the past when it comes to UEFA

Of course Guardiola is mystified that the Champions League anthem is booed at the Etihad Stadium. He has lived happily on the right side of the tracks throughout his magnificent career.

As manager of Barcelona and Bayern Munich, his has been a life of UEFA-crafted privilege. They have never been anything other than lovely to him.
Not just on a personal level, either. Guardiola might not actually realise his life has changed now he is with Manchester City, because he remains feted wherever he goes. For UEFA, he will always be the man that thrust Lionel Messi into their world, and gave the Champions League some of its greatest nights and feats.
They adore him, and understandably so. And he loves them back. Why wouldn't he?
They extinguish competition, their wealth helps create one-team leagues, they levy £50million fines on rival upstarts — and if all that doesn't work, they rewrite the co-efficient calculations and adjust the financial share of the market pool to ensure the giants of European football seize a greater share of the revenue generated by English clubs.


Guardiola has only worked at clubs that are in league with UEFA, that work hand in glove to preserve their status in the closed shop of the European elite.
So before telling City's fans to forget the past, he might want to get a glimpse of his future. It is all there, in UEFA's new co-efficient table.
Bayern Munich were ranked second in Europe with 163.035 points, and stay there — but now with 189. Barcelona were ranked third with 159.143 points, and stay there — but with 188. Manchester City had 99.257 points — and now have 84. They fall five places to 16th. And this means more chance of a tougher draw — and less money.

Fans have booed the Champions League anthem after a series of issues in the competition

City have worked their way in from Europe's wilderness: 64th in 2010, 42nd in 2011, 22nd in 2013, 17th in 2015, only to be bumped down the co-efficient table in what they believed to be a breakthrough European season.

That is how UEFA works for the clubs outside the gilded elite. That is why Manchester City's fans protest, and why Guardiola cannot understand.

'They must forget what happened in the past,' Guardiola advised, but the same could be said of him. Forget his past and familiarise himself with some recent history. Talk to more supporters, or to people around the club who have lived through the many hypocrisies, inconsistencies and injustices and would cheerfully boo from the posh seats, if only protocol and their employment contracts would allow.

Talk to them about getting fined £25,000 for coming out less than a minute late, in the same year that Porto were fined £17,000 for fans racially abusing Manchester City players. Talk about who got the money from their £49m financial fair play fine (here's a clue, Pep — you used to manage two of them).
Talk about how CSKA Moscow got hundreds of fans into a match due to be played behind closed doors when City's fans — who had done nothing wrong — were excluded. UEFA would even have charged City for booing the Champions League anthem, had news of their intention not made them appear even more petty and ridiculous.
Guardiola has only worked at clubs that are in league with UEFA, such as Barcelona

Guardiola has no frame of reference for any of this resentment. Neither do the clubs he has managed. The year before he arrived, Bayern Munich played a Champions League final at home. Barcelona are considered to have their feet so firmly under the top table that opposition fans in Spain sneeringly refer to them as Uefalona.
Claims of official bias or referees under instruction to ensure their progress are nonsense, of course — but hardly surprising when so much of UEFA's work benefits only the establishment.
And yes, it is unhelpful that Manchester City's fans do not embrace Europe, and that the ground often does not sell out on Champions League nights. Seeing the joy the travelling Leicester fans got from last week's visit to Bruges shows how positive the tournament can be for new arrivals.

Some City fans feel the same way, too — but that does not alter the rights of others to protest, as long as they then move on.

So cheer the team, get behind the players, wring every last drop of enjoyment from a Guardiola side who have, so far, exceeded even the most ambitious expectations. But boo UEFA; because they deserve it.

You never know, the more Guardiola discovers what it is like to be outside their inner circle, he may even feel inclined to join in one day.
Guardiola has got his Manchester City side playing brilliantly so far in the Premier League

Guardiola has got his Manchester City side playing brilliantly so far in the Premier League

[s1ty m]

Martin Samuel is brilliant.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Martin Samuel is brilliant.

He only put into more detail what I outlined the other day - which makes me brilliant )))

[iwasthere2012]

Martin Samuel is brilliant.

He only put into more detail what I outlined the other day - which makes me brilliant )))

Pure plagiarism. He obviously read your posts.

[carl_feedthegoat]

Martin Samuel is brilliant.

He only put into more detail what I outlined the other day - which makes me brilliant )))

Pure plagiarism. He obviously read your posts.

love Samuel , the most intelligent journo out there .

[iwasthere2012]

Martin Samuel is brilliant.

He only put into more detail what I outlined the other day - which makes me brilliant )))

Pure plagiarism. He obviously read your posts.

love Samuel , the most intelligent journo out there .

How's that trumpet of yours sounding?

[carl_feedthegoat]

Martin Samuel is brilliant.

He only put into more detail what I outlined the other day - which makes me brilliant )))

Pure plagiarism. He obviously read your posts.

love Samuel , the most intelligent journo out there .

How's that trumpet of yours sounding?

Deafening mate -

Jokes aside , when you look at the bigger picture we all know what we should and shouldn't do - booing is the right thing to do and if it catches on with other clubs then we have really rammed a knife into the most thieving,corrupt bastard of an organization that exists in football today.

I never understood the mentality of city fans who thought otherwise - no need to nod your head and agree, ala dazby , with the manager ,Just because he wants us to.

[JamieMCFC]

[carl_feedthegoat]

He also wasn't here when we were getting shafted -
I couldn't give 2 fucks what any player ,that is employed at City, have to say on the matter - as far as I'm
Concerned it doesn't really concern them as they get paid millions just to fucking play for our club regardless of what competition we are in.

As you were - Booooooooooo

[gillie]

These cunts are the reason why I don't think we will ever win the CL as they really will stoop to any means to stop us. They are also the reason I could not give a flying fuck about the competition.

[Mase]

These cunts are the reason why I don't think we will ever win the CL as they really will stoop to any means to stop us. They are also the reason I could not give a flying fuck about the competition.

Same. I barely watched us in the CL last season and I'm not too fussed either way this year.

[Bianchi on Ice]

Martin Samuel is brilliant.

He only put into more detail what I outlined the other day - which makes me brilliant )))

Pure plagiarism. He obviously read your posts.

love Samuel , the most intelligent journo out there .

Problem is Carl he is just about the only one. He wont hold back if criticising City either...but at least he does his research and is being serious about his job, so thats fair enough if he writes something that may not be as comfortable to read. Having said that it doesnt take too much research to reveal the blatant corruption that goes on in the higher echelons of the sports administration. Its like shooting fish in a barrel.

[Scatman]

Martin Samuel is the chief sportswriter at the mail and is doing what I would hope of a chief sportswriter.

Who are the other chief sportswriters? I imagine they are as thorough.

[johnny crossan]

Martin Samuel is the chief sportswriter at the mail and is doing what I would hope of a chief sportswriter.

Who are the other chief sportswriters? I imagine they are as thorough.

Oliver Kay is Chief Football Writer at The Times and has written a similarly critical article.

[patrickblue]

Martin Samuel is the chief sportswriter at the mail and is doing what I would hope of a chief sportswriter.

Who are the other chief sportswriters? I imagine they are as thorough.

Oliver Kay is Chief Football Writer at The Times and has written a similarly critical article.

Got a link?
I've had a good old google, and can't find it.

[DoomMerchant]

These cunts are the reason why I don't think we will ever win the CL as they really will stoop to any means to stop us. They are also the reason I could not give a flying fuck about the competition.

Same. I barely watched us in the CL last season and I'm not too fussed either way this year.

I watched us and up until the Madrid capitulation we were. very very good.

For me the league is the priority and I can't imagine being bored of winning it but I also feel that Peps point is just let things go and embrace the matches. We won't win the political battle by creating a stale and fetid environment where the players want to fuck the como off. The only way forward is through them all. That's how interpret his thoughts.

We've all know the cunts have been trying to stitch us up for over half a decade....and yet here we are!

Cheers