Slim wrote:Is that it?
You are aware how that point disproves itself right? In order for you to know I haven't posted anything interesting in near 30,000 posts you'd have to have read all 30,000 posts. Anyone who does that obviously finds me fascinating.
And of course my reply to you was probably something similar to back then, I still don't care. I find it amusing that you criticise someone for having a lot of posts like that's a point. Maybe we should look at your join date and compare that with when the bandwagon started to fill up. But I'd never question someone's support of this club or this website, I'll leave that to lesser minds with glib replies. You're up.
1. Those who write off Yaya will be proven wrong almost every time.
Yaya is the only reason? 4 at the back might be a reason, in fact most people might think that the major reason.
2. Yaya was always in Pep's plans for this season.
I'm sure Pep's plan was to go 6 matches without a win, plans change.
3. Pep knows the proper way to use an incredible player like Yaya.
By selling him once at Barcelona and trying to sell him again this Summer?
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Sparklehorse wrote:Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Sparklehorse wrote:Yaya Toure is the best player ever to wear a City shirt....bar none.
Without him we'd still be waiting for a trophy.
No doubt whatsoever in my mind.
In my lifetime he's contending with Tevez, Silva and Aguero for that accolade.
To say we wouldn't have won a trophy without him is daft. We wouldn't have them all, but not one at all, sorry got to call bullshit on that one.
Well, he scored the only goals in the FA Cup semi final and final. He scored both goals in the absolutely crucial away game at Newcastle otherwise the QPR game would have been academic. He scored the equaliser in the Carling Cup final (or whatever it was called then) with a stunning goal. Our second title was won with an attacking midfielder scoring over 20 goals in a Premier League season for the second time only in history the other one by Frank Lampard.
I genuinely believe it's a reasonable argument. Yes we have other great players, but this guy is a big game player and comes up with the goods when most needed as per the above instances !
I'm well aware of all that, but you're telling me you can guarantee if those cup games finished 0-0 we'd have lost everyone in et or pens? You're telling me nasri scoring v Sunderland would have still seen us ship another goal after?
Sorry but what u said is nonsense and I rightly explained that yes some of those games might have gone the other way, but to assume all of them would or that whoever played in his place wouldn't have done a job in at least one of them is silly.
Sparklehorse wrote:Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Sparklehorse wrote:Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Sparklehorse wrote:Yaya Toure is the best player ever to wear a City shirt....bar none.
Without him we'd still be waiting for a trophy.
No doubt whatsoever in my mind.
In my lifetime he's contending with Tevez, Silva and Aguero for that accolade.
To say we wouldn't have won a trophy without him is daft. We wouldn't have them all, but not one at all, sorry got to call bullshit on that one.
Well, he scored the only goals in the FA Cup semi final and final. He scored both goals in the absolutely crucial away game at Newcastle otherwise the QPR game would have been academic. He scored the equaliser in the Carling Cup final (or whatever it was called then) with a stunning goal. Our second title was won with an attacking midfielder scoring over 20 goals in a Premier League season for the second time only in history the other one by Frank Lampard.
I genuinely believe it's a reasonable argument. Yes we have other great players, but this guy is a big game player and comes up with the goods when most needed as per the above instances !
I'm well aware of all that, but you're telling me you can guarantee if those cup games finished 0-0 we'd have lost everyone in et or pens? You're telling me nasri scoring v Sunderland would have still seen us ship another goal after?
Sorry but what u said is nonsense and I rightly explained that yes some of those games might have gone the other way, but to assume all of them would or that whoever played in his place wouldn't have done a job in at least one of them is silly.
Ive just gone through the reasons above...it can't be nonsense because it actually happened I can post the films of said events if you like. The Carling Cup goal by Nasri would not have happened without Yaya's goal because things would have happened differently. We could have gone on to win 6-1 who knows....but what is definite Yaya was instrumental in that victory and I still think that he's had the biggest influence on our success and there is a distinct possibility that without him we may not have won trophies. It's not nonsense because I'm presenting evidence...and I'm certainly not trying to take anything away from Aguero, Tevez and Silva (whom are all world class players) we will just have to disagree...
I love him as a player and am very pleased that such a great player has not just disappeared into the ether as so many do and it's no coincidence that the 4 games he's started have all been won !
bigblue wrote:Slim wrote:Is that it?
You are aware how that point disproves itself right? In order for you to know I haven't posted anything interesting in near 30,000 posts you'd have to have read all 30,000 posts. Anyone who does that obviously finds me fascinating.
And of course my reply to you was probably something similar to back then, I still don't care. I find it amusing that you criticise someone for having a lot of posts like that's a point. Maybe we should look at your join date and compare that with when the bandwagon started to fill up. But I'd never question someone's support of this club or this website, I'll leave that to lesser minds with glib replies. You're up.
Once again, your lack of reading comprehension lets you down. I'm not criticizing you for making a lot of posts. I'm pointing out the remarkable lack of substance and personality in practically every one that I've read. I've never questioned your support for City either, so I don't know where you are getting that from.
Your inability to respond to the actual words in a post is nothing new though. For example:1. Those who write off Yaya will be proven wrong almost every time.
Yaya is the only reason? 4 at the back might be a reason, in fact most people might think that the major reason.
2. Yaya was always in Pep's plans for this season.
I'm sure Pep's plan was to go 6 matches without a win, plans change.
3. Pep knows the proper way to use an incredible player like Yaya.
By selling him once at Barcelona and trying to sell him again this Summer?
1. What on earth does us playing 4 at the back have to do with fans or Pep writing off Yaya? I don't even know how that's related, yet alone the main reason.
2. If Pep left the invitation for Yaya to return, then he was always in his plans. Maybe not in his planned starting lineup, but Yaya was definitely in Pep's plans for the season or else he wouldn't be in the squad (see Joe, Nasri, Bony, Mangeler, Denayer...). Us losing 6 games has less to do with Yaya starting, than does injuries and Yaya's current form. As I've said before, they get along very well in any video that I've seen from CityTV. It's obvious that Pep respects Yaya very much and trusts him to help the team carry out his tactics on the field.
3. What does Pep selling Yaya at Barcelona have to do with the price of beans? Because he prefers another player (Sergio Biscuits), it means he doesn't know how to play Yaya? The same Yaya who played 40 times in 08-09 to win the treble and started at CB in the champs league final? Yeah, Pep really doesn't know how to use him...
That's like saying because I sold my sports car for a electric car (to better fit my daily commute), that I don't know how to drive the sports car. Like most of your points, it's just unrelated half-thoughts and nonsense.
"You know the reason why Toure was out in the first part," Guardiola said at Friday's news conference ahead of Sunday's Premier League meeting with Arsenal.
"He has come back and I have seen him play like he can and he was when I met him in Barcelona. There’s no doubt about his quality. When his physical condition is right, he can do everything. He is strong in the air, he is fast, he has personality. That’s why we decided Yaya would stay here. He helped us a lot in the three games we won with him in the team.”
bigblue wrote:1. Mixing up correlation and causation. How are you so sure that Pep always wanted to play 3 at the back? Can be just as likely that we play 3 at the back because we don't have enough fit/quality CBs, and Pep doesn't trust the midfield as much without Yaya (or a player of similar quality) so he wants to add an extra player in midfield. Yaya is playing because he is a better player, in better form, and is trusted more by Pep than other options.
From Pep's mouth last week:"You know the reason why Toure was out in the first part," Guardiola said at Friday's news conference ahead of Sunday's Premier League meeting with Arsenal.
"He has come back and I have seen him play like he can and he was when I met him in Barcelona. There’s no doubt about his quality. When his physical condition is right, he can do everything. He is strong in the air, he is fast, he has personality. That’s why we decided Yaya would stay here. He helped us a lot in the three games we won with him in the team.”
2. Pep wouldn't leave the door open for Yaya to return if he wasn't in his plans. And if (when) Yaya apologised and came back, it cements Pep's place as leader of the team. That is a plan (so that means Yaya was in his plans).
3. For the last time, selling a player has nothing to do with a manager's ability to get the best out of them. Pep obviously knows how to fit Yaya in the team better than Pellers. Everyone can see the great relationship and mutual respect that they have.
And Pep just said after the game today that Yaya specifically was always part of this plans. Don't really know what more you need to know.
I'm not having the last word, Yaya is. Once again, scores the winning goal in a big game under pressure. Whenever you doubt the big man, and he'll continue to prove you wrong...
Slim wrote:Don't care.
bigblue wrote:I'm not having the last word, Yaya is. Once again, scores the winning goal in a big game under pressure. Whenever you doubt the big man, and he'll continue to prove you wrong...
Mase wrote:bigblue wrote:I'm not having the last word, Yaya is. Once again, scores the winning goal in a big game under pressure. Whenever you doubt the big man, and he'll continue to prove you wrong...
Prove us wrong like he did last season?
Says a lot about you as a 'fan' when we've just won but the first thing you think about is antagonising your own fans.
bigblue wrote:Mase wrote:bigblue wrote:I'm not having the last word, Yaya is. Once again, scores the winning goal in a big game under pressure. Whenever you doubt the big man, and he'll continue to prove you wrong...
Prove us wrong like he did last season?
Says a lot about you as a 'fan' when we've just won but the first thing you think about is antagonising your own fans.
Not that different than your post here no? And it says even more about you as a fan when you continue to doubt one of the greatest players to ever wear sky blue.
Mase wrote:bigblue wrote:Mase wrote:bigblue wrote:I'm not having the last word, Yaya is. Once again, scores the winning goal in a big game under pressure. Whenever you doubt the big man, and he'll continue to prove you wrong...
Prove us wrong like he did last season?
Says a lot about you as a 'fan' when we've just won but the first thing you think about is antagonising your own fans.
Not that different than your post here no? And it says even more about you as a fan when you continue to doubt one of the greatest players to ever wear sky blue.
Doubt him? I've always said when he wants to play he's the best around at what he does. He didn't want to play last season and both him and his agent took the piss out of the club.
You really must have had a shit Christmas. Chin up pal.
bigblue wrote:
You sure like to assume a lot about me. I didn't have any Christmas because I'm not Christian. So it was about as good as my boarding school experience...
Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Our fans have been a disgrace towards Yaya. And ignorant.
The man is a hero and arguably our most influential midfielder still. Superb. As always.
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Our fans have been a disgrace towards Yaya. And ignorant.
The man is a hero and arguably our most influential midfielder still. Superb. As always.
Seems like you or I say this every few pages. He's a fucking city legend and so many don't see it.
Slim wrote:Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Our fans have been a disgrace towards Yaya. And ignorant.
The man is a hero and arguably our most influential midfielder still. Superb. As always.
Seems like you or I say this every few pages. He's a fucking city legend and so many don't see it.
Absolutely no-one is arguing against that.
Stop creating your own fucking windmill you donkey fucker.
Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Slim wrote:Pretty Boy Lee wrote:Piccsnumberoneblue wrote:Our fans have been a disgrace towards Yaya. And ignorant.
The man is a hero and arguably our most influential midfielder still. Superb. As always.
Seems like you or I say this every few pages. He's a fucking city legend and so many don't see it.
Absolutely no-one is arguing against that.
Stop creating your own fucking windmill you donkey fucker.
Maybe not but 60 pages says not many have given him the respect he deserves over that time. If I were him I'd want a cake every month!
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