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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby s1ty m » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:49 am

Won't be good for us if they bag a huge fee and use it for Aubamayang, Griezemann or someone similar. Might be great business for Chelsea though.
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby sheblue » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:54 am

This is a bubble and bubbles burst.
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby Justified logic » Sat Jan 14, 2017 8:55 am

There is a question mark over the surety of the contracts the players going to China get. I've heard (on the radio) that if the club decides not to fully pay the player, he has no redress and has the choice of hanging around in China hoping to get paid or going back to ...his home I guess.
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby Mase » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:07 am

s1ty m wrote:Won't be good for us if they bag a huge fee and use it for Aubamayang, Griezemann or someone similar. Might be great business for Chelsea though.


I honestly don't think Griezemann would be good in the Prem. I'd be happy if they got him. Similar to Falcao in my opinion when he came over here.
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby Pretty Boy Lee » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:17 am

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s1ty m wrote:Won't be good for us if they bag a huge fee and use it for Aubamayang, Griezemann or someone similar. Might be great business for Chelsea though.


I honestly don't think Griezemann would be good in the Prem. I'd be happy if they got him. Similar to Falcao in my opinion when he came over here.


I'd love for them to lose their top scorer mid season and find this out at least. Costa guarantees goals ok this league. Even if it takes 3-4 games to get up to speed every bit helps us!
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:20 am

PrezIke wrote:Wow.

Chelsea are top and favourites to win by a decent margin...and now one of their most important players is on strike and may be off?!?

Isn't this unprecedented? (If true)


It reminds me of our Tevez situation, although this potentially fucks them up as they are more reliant on Costa than we were on Tevez at the time.
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby freshie » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:26 am

Losing Costa will severely dent their titles hopes. Can't see them signing anyone as good in the Jan window. Hope he fucks off to China
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby PeterParker » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:31 am

Interesting to see this and more interesting is the fact the chinese seem to avoid us.

I think that investment last year may have something to do with it.


Regarding Costa, if he goes it will be a huge blow for them. And they might make a panic buy.
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Jan 14, 2017 9:35 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:It's PROFESSIONAL football so I've always thought that all the talk about "mercenaries" is bit silly. It's a short career that can end any given day and you have no qualifications for any profession outside football and very few really end up making any decent career as managers. So you grap every single penny you can. I never blame any professional going after money. Loyalty is for supporters.

HOWEVER it's STILL football and it's their competitiveness that got them where they are. If, as is the case with Costa, they can get ALMOST as much money and still play truly competitive football I would always choose the competition.

I dont know what Costa is on but let's say, for instance, that he's getting £100 grand a week which equates to approx £5 mil a year. By the reports he's now been offered 6 years wages for one year's work and if a 3 year contract, 18 years (a near full career) earnings in 3.

Competition? Fuck that, this is a life changing event, for him and his next generations.
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby CTID Hants » Sat Jan 14, 2017 10:26 am

Justified logic wrote:There is a question mark over the surety of the contracts the players going to China get. I've heard (on the radio) that if the club decides not to fully pay the player, he has no redress and has the choice of hanging around in China hoping to get paid or going back to ...his home I guess.


All the people I know who've done business in China, all say the exact same thing which is....

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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby john@staustell » Sat Jan 14, 2017 12:26 pm

How much of a millionaire do you need to be? Greedy cunt.

On FFP, haven't Chelsea just posted a £50m loss? Good job they aren't in Europe
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:19 pm

The proposition has probably come from some Chinese Rag sychophant, trying to destabilise Chelsea's season. Wouldn't be surprised if Murdoch was behind it.

What says a lot is Costa's reaction to this, willing to lose his team mates when they are riding high on a wave.
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby Original Dub » Sat Jan 14, 2017 1:43 pm

PeterParker wrote:Interesting to see this and more interesting is the fact the chinese seem to avoid us.

I think that investment last year my have something to do with it.


Regarding Costa, if he goes it will be a huge blow for them. And they might make a panic buy.


That's an excellent point mate.

I had temporarily forgotten about the chinese investment and that might turn out to be an even more clever move than first thought.

In that case, I hope they take him :)
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby iwasthere2012 » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:18 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:The proposition has probably come from some Chinese Rag sychophant, trying to destabilise Chelsea's season. Wouldn't be surprised if Murdoch was behind it.

What says a lot is Costa's reaction to this, willing to lose his team mates when they are riding high on a wave.

Who says it's the Rags Beefy. Who's done business with the Chinese government recently.

Maybe, just maybe The Empire strikes back.
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:40 pm

iwasthere2012 wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:The proposition has probably come from some Chinese Rag sychophant, trying to destabilise Chelsea's season. Wouldn't be surprised if Murdoch was behind it.

What says a lot is Costa's reaction to this, willing to lose his team mates when they are riding high on a wave.

Who says it's the Rags Beefy. Who's done business with the Chinese government recently.

Maybe, just maybe The Empire strikes back.

You just never know. So much money in China now that it could even be some Chelsea fan wanting his idol for a while.

They don't seem to last long over there though, not sure why.
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby s1ty m » Sat Jan 14, 2017 2:56 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:It's PROFESSIONAL football so I've always thought that all the talk about "mercenaries" is bit silly. It's a short career that can end any given day and you have no qualifications for any profession outside football and very few really end up making any decent career as managers. So you grap every single penny you can. I never blame any professional going after money. Loyalty is for supporters.

HOWEVER it's STILL football and it's their competitiveness that got them where they are. If, as is the case with Costa, they can get ALMOST as much money and still play truly competitive football I would always choose the competition.

I dont know what Costa is on but let's say, for instance, that he's getting £100 grand a week which equates to approx £5 mil a year. By the reports he's now been offered 6 years wages for one year's work and if a 3 year contract, 18 years (a near full career) earnings in 3.

Competition? Fuck that, this is a life changing event, for him and his next generations.


And less tax.
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby Mase » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:02 pm

s1ty m wrote:Won't be good for us if they bag a huge fee and use it for Aubamayang, Griezemann or someone similar. Might be great business for Chelsea though.


They definitely won't get Aubamayang in January whilst he's at the ACN
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby nottsblue » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:11 pm

CTID Hants wrote:
Justified logic wrote:There is a question mark over the surety of the contracts the players going to China get. I've heard (on the radio) that if the club decides not to fully pay the player, he has no redress and has the choice of hanging around in China hoping to get paid or going back to ...his home I guess.


All the people I know who've done business in China, all say the exact same thing which is....

It's not case of if they fuck you over, just a case of when!

Can understand why a player wants to go as they see the £signs and £600k a WEEK is crazy money. But will a three or four year contract be honoured? Big question mark over that I reckon. As John@staustell pointed out as well, how much money does one guy really need? Is £5/6/7m a year in England not enough?
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:41 pm

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CTID Hants wrote:
Justified logic wrote:There is a question mark over the surety of the contracts the players going to China get. I've heard (on the radio) that if the club decides not to fully pay the player, he has no redress and has the choice of hanging around in China hoping to get paid or going back to ...his home I guess.


All the people I know who've done business in China, all say the exact same thing which is....

It's not case of if they fuck you over, just a case of when!

Can understand why a player wants to go as they see the £signs and £600k a WEEK is crazy money. But will a three or four year contract be honoured? Big question mark over that I reckon. As John@staustell pointed out as well, how much money does one guy really need? Is £5/6/7m a year in England not enough?


If the Chinese don't honour their contracts, then I suppose these could be rendered null and void by such default and any player's simplistic recourse would be then to sign for another Club, wheresoever, with no transfer fee round his neck.

With regard to the transfer fee itself, what happens these days ?? Previously, in times gone by, it was commonplace for Clubs to pay a transfer fee in instalments, spread over a number of years. When the Sheik took over, if I remember correctly, he created a bit of a stir by paying transfer fees 'up front' to the selling Club.

I've no idea now if we're still doing this and if other Clubs do the same; does anyone know ??
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Re: Chinatown - Costa wants out

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat Jan 14, 2017 4:45 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:It's PROFESSIONAL football so I've always thought that all the talk about "mercenaries" is bit silly. It's a short career that can end any given day and you have no qualifications for any profession outside football and very few really end up making any decent career as managers. So you grap every single penny you can. I never blame any professional going after money. Loyalty is for supporters.

HOWEVER it's STILL football and it's their competitiveness that got them where they are. If, as is the case with Costa, they can get ALMOST as much money and still play truly competitive football I would always choose the competition.

I dont know what Costa is on but let's say, for instance, that he's getting £100 grand a week which equates to approx £5 mil a year. By the reports he's now been offered 6 years wages for one year's work and if a 3 year contract, 18 years (a near full career) earnings in 3.

Competition? Fuck that, this is a life changing event, for him and his next generations.


Like I say, I do get it and if I was in his shoes and playing for team I don't really care much about then I'd be tempted.
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