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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby PrezIke » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:04 pm

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Mase wrote:He should get more than Sergio. Serg grazed Reid's chest. Big nose absolutely smashed the kids face.


Sorry. Don't agree. It's the intent. If Sergio had landed his elbow cleanly it would have been far worse.


Nope. It's the result of the action that matters you can't really prove the intent or its outcome whereas if the elbow lands and you almost knock someone out surely that is far worse


You can't prove intent in these cases? With all due respect, watch the video of both incidents and tell me if you believe your words again.

Both players swung with an attempt to hit the player behind them in the head with their elbows. This isn't murder vs. attempted murder we're talking about here, and as I commented in response to Mase, there was only one action by both players that is the "violent conduct."

4 game ban each. End of story.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:08 pm

Had SSN on for about 40 minutes now and haven't seen the Beeker incident yet but what I have just seen, up first at 8, is the Ming incident where it has been described as a 'Stamping on his head'. Firstly, there was no stamping. Secondly, the lad is running through without a glimpse of Beeker being there, so why is it being discussed.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:22 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Had SSN on for about 40 minutes now and haven't seen the Beeker incident yet but what I have just seen, up first at 8, is the Ming incident where it has been described as a 'Stamping on his head'. Firstly, there was no stamping. Secondly, the lad is running through without a glimpse of Beeker being there, so why is it being discussed.

And now just seen the incidents and can now have a say. Ming goes in but only eyes for the ball, of which Neville tells us it was a shocker. Ming gets up and has no eyes for Beeker but skims his Steven Segal hairpiece where Neville gives a long 'oooooooooooo', should be off. Followed swiftly by Beeker giving Ming some shit before directing a well aimed elbow, after a long look, into his face. Again, Neville comes out with 'oooooooooo', they should both be off!

Nothing more, nothing less added, that's what I've just seen. Personally I thought that Beeker only had eyes for Ming whereas Ming only had eyes for the ball. But what do I know against the great and wonderful RagBoy Neville who many think is the second coming.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby nottsblue » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:23 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Had SSN on for about 40 minutes now and haven't seen the Beeker incident yet but what I have just seen, up first at 8, is the Ming incident where it has been described as a 'Stamping on his head'. Firstly, there was no stamping. Secondly, the lad is running through without a glimpse of Beeker being there, so why is it being discussed.

Are they trying to deflect the elbow? Surely as an impartial broadcaster they are reporting the incident without bias or prejudice.........

It appears it's a case of Big Bad Mings and poor little Zlatan was only sticking up for himself against the big bully
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Mase » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:28 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Had SSN on for about 40 minutes now and haven't seen the Beeker incident yet but what I have just seen, up first at 8, is the Ming incident where it has been described as a 'Stamping on his head'. Firstly, there was no stamping. Secondly, the lad is running through without a glimpse of Beeker being there, so why is it being discussed.


I've said the same mate. No one stamped on anyone's head. Other wise Zlatan wouldn't have been able to get up and elbow him.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Mase » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:30 pm

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Mase wrote:He should get more than Sergio. Serg grazed Reid's chest. Big nose absolutely smashed the kids face.


Sorry. Don't agree. It's the intent. If Sergio had landed his elbow cleanly it would have been far worse.


Haha brilliant. You'd rather take a punch off someone than someone just swing for you and miss. Because it's the same isn't it?


In real life? No. But in sport, if you try to hurt someone with one swing of your elbow, as in these instances, and one is just crap or fortunately off with their aim I don't think that should mean both should be treated differently.

Now, if we're not talking about multiple actions of violence (swing of elbow followed by a kick and a stamp, for instance) then that would be a different story.

We are talking about one swing of the elbow by either player. Sergio just happened to have missed.


Compare it to the Thatcher incident then. Look at Thatcher's and look at Sergio's. Is there a different in them? Should one have got more games banned than the other?

You're being silly mate! But it's your opinion at the end of the day.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Peter Doherty (AGAIG) » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:33 pm

PeterParker wrote:Did any rag player had a retrospective ban in the last few years?

I fail to remember any and there were some moments.

Wio Camelcunt about 6 years ago?
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby london blue 2 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:40 pm

I remember rooney getting away with a thatcheresq elbow on a Wigan player.

Saying that I think beeker will be banned.

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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Mar 04, 2017 8:57 pm

london blue 2 wrote:I remember rooney getting away with a thatcheresq elbow on a Wigan player.

Saying that I think beeker will be banned.

Cunt

There is no way he can't be. The ref took so long and decided that it was better to not see it has now gone against them. They had the perfect chance to take the 3 points, even getting help from the half a yard handball decision, but couldn't secure against a team that is so inefficient away from home.

The only thing Wiggy brought to the game was the aftermatch where he lied when saying he seen the Ming incident. And he is 'our' national captain.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby PeterParker » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:06 pm

Peter Doherty (AGAIG) wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Did any rag player had a retrospective ban in the last few years?

I fail to remember any and there were some moments.

Wio Camelcunt about 6 years ago?


There are at least 4 moments with Sideshow Bob Fellaini in the past year where a retrospective ban was clear as day. It did not happen.

These next days will be very interesting to see how deep is the corruption in the FA. Ibrahimovich should get 3 or 4 games ban after that elbow. It was intention, he touched him, we have all the elements for a big ban.

Costa got it a few times, Suarez, God knows we had some bans since that media PR to ban Mario after that 3-2 with Spurs when he kicked Parker. The media will play a big part in this and for the looks of it, the rag part of Sky are trying to put it all on the back of Miggs, accusing he started all.

If he gets less than 3 games, then we really are about to see the peak of corruption in this league.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby City64 » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:09 pm

Ref and linesman need fucking banning aswell !

This could also be the point where the wheels really fall off for the swamp donkeys when the big nose cunt gets banned .......... another Maureen crash and burn thrown in , come on lets av it !!! :lol: :o :lol:
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Mar 04, 2017 9:29 pm

City64 wrote:Ref and linesman need fucking banning aswell !

This could also be the point where the wheels really fall off for the swamp donkeys when the big nose cunt gets banned .......... another Maureen crash and burn thrown in , come on lets av it !!! :lol: :o :lol:

Very much 2 issues here:

1. As a televised game, all seen or heard about the incident and it was inexplicable how he wasn't sent off. It seemed that it was only when they looked further back that they made up the incident against Beeker, and it was, they forced home the compounding issue, failing to mention a previous issue where Beeker tried finding the same. Eye for an eye.

2. PL say that enough is enough, we can't do any more. At some point they have to let them go and hope they make their way via the Europa League. It's so obvious now that even the Rags are admitting it.

Sky and the PL work hand-in-hand, BT are there just to stop the monopoly, but they both know that the 'Integrity' of the league must be upheld. Paying customers will only take so much but when it happens to their team, thinking changes.

Their choice, orchestrate this charade. My choice, cancel my subscription.

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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sat Mar 04, 2017 10:48 pm

Mase wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Had SSN on for about 40 minutes now and haven't seen the Beeker incident yet but what I have just seen, up first at 8, is the Ming incident where it has been described as a 'Stamping on his head'. Firstly, there was no stamping. Secondly, the lad is running through without a glimpse of Beeker being there, so why is it being discussed.


I've said the same mate. No one stamped on anyone's head. Other wise Zlatan wouldn't have been able to get up and elbow him.


Absolutely spot on Mase.

This is THE salient point; all else is immaterial.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Plain Speaking » Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:55 am

Ibra threw Ming's to the ground earlier off the ball and also deliberately stamped on Ming's arse/top leg just before he got caught by Ming's boot. The FA needs to look at all the incidents that were involved. Ibra should receive more than a 3 match ban.

If this was a City player, eg Sergio, Sky would be showing all the incidents, with glee, on a continuous loop.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Dub City » Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:37 am

Plain Speaking wrote:Ibra threw Ming's to the ground earlier off the ball and also deliberately stamped on Ming's arse/top leg just before he got caught by Ming's boot. The FA needs to look at all the incidents that were involved. Ibra should receive more than a 3 match ban.

If this was a City player, eg Sergio, Sky would be showing all the incidents, with glee, on a continuous loop.


Strange that the video of the big nose prick stamping are not been showing on a continuous loop anywhere or his throw. He had 3 incidents in That match while all 3 might not be straight reds , 2 of them definitely are but wouldn't expect anything more than 3 games ban for him unfortunately. Would be great to see Rooney leading the line again although he is most effective man marking the ref these days. Just think with all the offside decisions that have gone in their favour this year, Rojo red cards not given, Pigba throwing people to ground and not been sent off and the cunts still in 6th, where the hell would they be in a fair competition ??
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Justified logic » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:34 am

So what did Ibrahimovic get his yellow card for?
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Mase » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:35 am

I think any team that plays the rags going forward need to focus on winding the big nose twat up. Stand on his foot on corners. Nudge him all game. Keep calling him a big nosed twat throughout the game. He's shown he's petulant and can be wound up easily.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Mase » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:36 am

Justified logic wrote:So what did Ibrahimovic get his yellow card for?


Having the hair cut of a mincer apparently.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby PeterParker » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:53 am

Justified logic wrote:So what did Ibrahimovic get his yellow card for?


He got the yellow for protesting when Bournemouth got the penno.

What I am trying to undestand is:

1) Did the ref forget that Surman pushed Ibrahimovic, but Shrek kept reminding him?

2) What the fuck is Rojo telling the Bournemouth player here? That Ibracunt was actually the one that got the elbow? Are they that deluded?

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PS; Murphy is beyond stupidity: ”How can anyone know it was intention?”

Because he went for him you bald cunt.
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Re: Retrospective bans

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Sun Mar 05, 2017 9:55 am

Mase wrote:I think any team that plays the rags going forward need to focus on winding the big nose twat up. Stand on his foot on corners. Nudge him all game. Keep calling him a big nosed twat throughout the game. He's shown he's petulant and can be wound up easily.


Cirano Ibrahimovitch :lol: :lol:

I like it......although if he was a racehorse, he would have an unfair advantage coming to the winning post in a tight finish. :? :?
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