Subinho

[Ted Hughes]

I was sat less than 5 yards away from Robinho in the same row (great seats to watch a game from) and he didn't react to anything much in the entire game. Neither did some of the other subs though. I think he knew he wasn't getting a game because he hardly warmed up.

Other interesting points to note from been sat virtually in the players area were:

• Ireland warmed up throughout the match and looked desperate to get on
• Petrov seemed quite content sat their all wrapped up warm
• When we started pressing for the ball with Tevez, SWP and Bellamy chasing their keeper and defenders Mancini was shouting and directing them to drop back deep and not bother (this annoyed me slightly as I think we should of got after Evans and Brown)
• Mancini was constantly telling Bellamy and SWP to tuck in and not be dragged out to the wings. Makes the game tighter in the middle but gave Giggs and Valencia far too much room
• Mancini was having a good old moan to Brian Kidd everytime we cocked up a move or failed to defend an attack
  
• Mancini was getting well pissed off with Benjani. He told him to come on but it took him nearly 5 minutes to get undressed
• He did not seem too happy with Garrido in the last 15 mins and often gestured Italian style when he gave it away cheaply to the opposistion midfielders, I think his was the reason he brought on Subinho MKII.
• When Boyata came off he looked shattered, when Tevez came off he looked well chuffed with himself

PS: Subinho is a great nickname!

Mancini wasn't the only one getting pissed off with Benjani, the man had lead boots. But the he probably suffers from going on after the clockwork mouse Tevez. Only a matter of time for Spanish Gaz, isn't Bridgey due back soon?

The winger thing is interesting. I kept wondering why we were marking Giggs and Valencia from such a distance, but from what you say this seems deliberate. Bobby obviously thinks it better to defend the narrower area in block than give them more space to come through the middle. It looked a bit scary, but as we won I guess you could say it worked, apart from their one goal!

They'll find a way through if we do that at OT. We got away with it but they only need one goal. We should have more energy for that game though.

[blues-clues]

Of course he SHOULD do pretty well and I genuinely hope he does but what I am saying is that although a goal or two might improve his confidence I don't think that game on its own will solve anything longer term. Games like Everton away are the sort of match where we want him to show his ability and commitment.

I understand that but what if we pick him v Scunthorpe & he's shit? What do we do?

A VERY good question.

This is where we find out if Mancini has what it takes as a man manager and as a motivator. If Mancinin decides that he wants Robinho to play then I guess he would sit him down and tell him what is needed, tell him how he fits into that plan and make sure that Robinho understands what is wanted. If Robinho doesn't agree with the plan or doesn't think he can do what the gaffer asks him then he has to say so. Then it is up to Mancini whether to play him or not. If Robinho wants to play and then doesn't deliver or if he doesn't want to play then I cannot see how he has a future in Mancini's plans.

[Mase]

Who cares? We won!!!

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Who cares? We won!!!

Oh but it does. All the professional Mancs are vary of this dodgy Italian and his even dodgier Brazilian bum chums.

[Mike J]

So we will just have to pay out his contract for the next few yearsas its unlikely anybody will come in for him on those wages.

I disagree...I reckon he will be sold in the summer...not only that...I think we will make our money back on him

not a chance, i reckon we will get clubs offering 15million tops if it carries on like this.

[Alioune DVToure]

Who cares? We won!!!

Oh but it does. All the professional Mancs are vary of this dodgy Italian and his even dodgier Brazilian bum chums.

Oh dear. Completely inaccurate, unwarranted and deliberately provocative yet again. Can't see any criticism of Mancini in the thread. Also can't see anyone suggesting that Mancini and Robinho are "bum chums" - surely he'd be being picked if this were the case. I honestly think you love the Devil's advocate role - you seem to pick ANY argument with the peoople who've disagreed with you in the past.

[Nick]

I was shitting it when I thought he was coming on and not Silvinho.

In other matters, Benjani was shite and that sub could have cost us. Somebody tell the lad to put some fucking effort in!

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Who cares? We won!!!

Oh but it does. All the professional Mancs are vary of this dodgy Italian and his even dodgier Brazilian bum chums.

Oh dear. Completely inaccurate, unwarranted and deliberately provocative yet again. Can't see any criticism of Mancini in the thread. Also can't see anyone suggesting that Mancini and Robinho are "bum chums" - surely he'd be being picked if this were the case. I honestly think you love the Devil's advocate role - you seem to pick ANY argument with the peoople who've disagreed with you in the past.

Well it certainly wasn't me who started that fucking bullshit. I do agree that it's childish and retarded though.

[Original Dub]

Who cares? We won!!!

Oh but it does. All the professional Mancs are vary of this dodgy Italian and his even dodgier Brazilian bum chums.

WUM

[Rag_hater]

All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.

[Alioune DVToure]

All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Original Dub]

All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.

That's simply not the case at all.

If his attitude and performances stay the same, he will be sold at a loss and have to go somewhere for less money.

Because he'd never stay in the prime of his career purely for the money....... would he?

[Scatman]

All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.

In which case I'm looking forward to how he reacts to this little setback and also how Mancini manages him. He played ace at home last season and that was just enough for Hughes to give him the benefit of the doubt over his poor away performances. This season he is surrounded by negativity, but he was out injured for some time. He can either react to his situation like the Goat did, and become a legend, but one that is a much better fotballer. Or he can take the other option and waste all his potential and ruin his career.

I reckon Mancini will do a decent job and we'll be singing Subbie's praise again in a year's time. That's if the Sheik don't get rid.

[blues-clues]

All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.

Are you RIG in disguise? Never seen so many factual errors in one post.

1. There are no Robinho haters on here. There are plenty that question his commitment but we all love City and everyone here wants to see him do what we know he can.
2. None of us are under any illusions that what we write on here will determine team selection or club policies. We are just here expressing our opinions and discussing our team and the game they play.
3. Nobody thinks the Sheikh will give him away. FFS why would he. But if someone else wants to take on his wages and we have the chance to sell then maybe he will cut his losses. More likely in the event that City decide they don't want him any more is that a "face saving" deal will be done, a loan or part exchange type of deal. But give him away nobody has suggested that so why even mention it?

[Rag_hater]

All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.

That's simply not the case at all.

If his attitude and performances stay the same, he will be sold at a loss and have to go somewhere for less money.

Because he'd never stay in the prime of his career purely for the money....... would he?

Sell him at a loss is the only way.And your talking about 10's of millions of pounds.
His attitude is not gonna change cos you want it too.
And for 160 grand a week I think he might be hard to get rid off or very expensive.
Hahahahahahaha

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.

That's simply not the case at all.

If his attitude and performances stay the same, he will be sold at a loss and have to go somewhere for less money.

Because he'd never stay in the prime of his career purely for the money....... would he?

Sell him at a loss is the only way.And your talking about 10's of millions of pounds.
His attitude is not gonna change cos you want it too.
And for 160 grand a week I think he might be hard to get rid off or very expensive.
Hahahahahahaha

And THAT is his fucking problem right now. His attitude on pitch BETTER change if supporters aren't happy with the way he is doing.

[Rag_hater]

All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.

Are you RIG in disguise? Never seen so many factual errors in one post.

1. There are no Robinho haters on here. There are plenty that question his commitment but we all love City and everyone here wants to see him do what we know he can.
2. None of us are under any illusions that what we write on here will determine team selection or club policies. We are just here expressing our opinions and discussing our team and the game they play.
3. Nobody thinks the Sheikh will give him away. FFS why would he. But if someone else wants to take on his wages and we have the chance to sell then maybe he will cut his losses. More likely in the event that City decide they don't want him any more is that a "face saving" deal will be done, a loan or part exchange type of deal. But give him away nobody has suggested that so why even mention it?

No Robbie haters,dream on this thread was started in order diss him.
There's loads of people on here want to get rid of him reckon he is one of the worst on the team.The sooner he's gone the better.
Youre just wriggling cos once you examine the facts the club is between a rock and hard place when it comes to Robbie.

[Tevez]

it's hard to slag off a guy who wasn't even on the field last night, tbh I think he would have done better than what Benjani did, but I have faith in Mancini and he is taking Robinho to school and robinho is going to have to work hard for his place in the team and thats the best thing the boss can say to him

[Ted Hughes]

All Robbie haters should get used to the fact he aint going nowhere.
You might get him of the bench with your whinging and whinning but out of the club.No chance.
Do you really think the Sheikh is gonna give him away.
So you better get used to his "attitude" cos its here to stay.Another 3 years.

That's simply not the case at all.

If his attitude and performances stay the same, he will be sold at a loss and have to go somewhere for less money.

Because he'd never stay in the prime of his career purely for the money....... would he?

Sell him at a loss is the only way.And your talking about 10's of millions of pounds.
His attitude is not gonna change cos you want it too.
And for 160 grand a week I think he might be hard to get rid off or very expensive.
Hahahahahahaha

No, loaning him out & getting him off the wage bill is a distinct possibility, then selling him for a smaller fee in 2 years, as is swapping him for players who our manager thinks would be more valuable to us, from a league in which Robinho would find it easier to play. I hope that neither of those scenarios happens because I still think he could succeed with us but I don't think Mancini will have the kind of patience with him that Hughes had & why should he if Robinho doesn't perform?

[Rag_hater]

And THAT is his fucking problem right now. His attitude on pitch BETTER change if supporters aren't happy with the way he is doing.[/quote]

Argh diddums you dont like his attitude.Unless you start paying 161 grand a week mate you and all your whinging aint gonna change it.So you best get used to it.
Oh and I'm a supporter and I find fuckall wrong with his attitude.