Navas at right back

[FA cup winners 2006]

He always gives his all and i think he has played well in the games he has played at full back but our full backs need to involved in our attack and navas just does not have the quality required

More than once yesterday he had the chance to play balls in behind. Our attackers had moved the defenders and started the run, navas either didnt see it or didnt believe he could thread the pass.

[johnny crossan]

He always gives his all and i think he has played well in the games he has played at full back but our full backs need to involved in our attack and navas just does not have the quality required

More than once yesterday he had the chance to play balls in behind. Our attackers had moved the defenders and started the run, navas either didnt see it or didnt believe he could thread the pass.

With respect I am completely at a loss to understand that post. Navas has played his entire career until now as an attacking wide midfielder, his new role as a full back exposes a lack of tackling and defensive positioning experience but he's still done remarkably well.

[Renato_CTID]

A very solid performance for me yesterday! I have good feelings Navas will be confirmed for next Sunday!

[Sister of fu]

Navas had a hand in some capacity or other in all three goals yesterday and played his part in keeping a clear sheet. Yeah he isn't everyone's cup of tea but he has never ever moaned and just gets on with what ever job he is asked to do. Can't really fault what he has done since reverting to a RB.

[everyonehatesus]

For me he did well yesterday, his pace helped out a lot and put pressure on them throughout

[patrickblue]

Don't know what people have been watching, he's been brilliant for the last couple of games, as Fu said, he was involved in all three goals yesterday.
I think he's suffering from Edgehill syndrome, and gets shit he doesn't deserve.

[Douglas Higginbottom]

He's not been good there for my money. Wingers haven't run at him enough because his positioning and body shape to defend the byline has been quite poor. He is a solid ball player tho so pep likes him there. Not for me.

Not sure that makes a lot of sense! If his positioning and body shape was poor don't you think the wingers would have had a go at him all the more. Or maybe they didn't because his positioning and body shape was actually pretty good?

He's done really well there but isn't a permanent solution

It makes sense just fine. I've seen him under no real threat turn 180 and be miles away. The fact that he got Sanchez uninterested and at his lowest ebb for arsenal is just dumb luck.

He's not a tackler, doesn't mark tight and is not in sync with the rest of the team. Let's not forget before yesterday his stint at RB has come in the middle of our longest run without a win as well.

I'm struggling here too mate, why would his poor body shape and positioning stop wingers Running at him

I think he just doesn't like Navas so it doesn't matter

[FA cup winners 2006]

He always gives his all and i think he has played well in the games he has played at full back but our full backs need to involved in our attack and navas just does not have the quality required

More than once yesterday he had the chance to play balls in behind. Our attackers had moved the defenders and started the run, navas either didnt see it or didnt believe he could thread the pass.

With respect I am completely at a loss to understand that post. Navas has played his entire career until now as an attacking wide midfielder, his new role as a full back exposes a lack of tackling and defensive positioning experience but he's still done remarkably well.

Just because he had played his entire career as an attacker does not mean he has the attacking qualities we need. His finishing is poor, his crossing is average and his link up play is average.

In relation to our full backs, i think Pep wants a full back who will be involved in the attack 70% of the game and the other 30% tracking runners/closing space/keeping shape.

Navas has shown he can do the 30% fairly well but he is still average in the attacking portion which is going to be vital to us

[Pretty Boy Lee]

He's not been good there for my money. Wingers haven't run at him enough because his positioning and body shape to defend the byline has been quite poor. He is a solid ball player tho so pep likes him there. Not for me.

Not sure that makes a lot of sense! If his positioning and body shape was poor don't you think the wingers would have had a go at him all the more. Or maybe they didn't because his positioning and body shape was actually pretty good?

He's done really well there but isn't a permanent solution

It makes sense just fine. I've seen him under no real threat turn 180 and be miles away. The fact that he got Sanchez uninterested and at his lowest ebb for arsenal is just dumb luck.

He's not a tackler, doesn't mark tight and is not in sync with the rest of the team. Let's not forget before yesterday his stint at RB has come in the middle of our longest run without a win as well.

I'm struggling here too mate, why would his poor body shape and positioning stop wingers Running at him

I think he just doesn't like Navas so it doesn't matter

I like Navas fine. He's just past it and doesn't score goals. I like Joe Hart and I wouldn't play him at right back either.

His poor positioning didn't stop anyone running at him, they just didn't. A bit like the first time Elano played right back and then they did and it stopped being a good idea. Navas twists and turns at the wrong time defensively and mark my word if he stays there someone will mug him off and it will stop being an option. Bury your heads if you like, it was a nice game to watch and I'm happy too. One day though if this continues it will be a stick to beat Pep with, I'm sure of it.

[Wooders]

don't be daft

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Don't know what people have been watching, he's been brilliant for the last couple of games, as Fu said, he was involved in all three goals yesterday.
I think he's suffering from Edgehill syndrome, and gets shit he doesn't deserve.

He's been brilliant when there is ZERO pressure. Against top teams he would be eaten alive at right back. And I don't hate Navas at all. If we'd be upper mid-table side that playswith traditional 4-4-2 (or 3-5-2) with wingers playing wide and not cutting in I'd actually quite like him.

Fullback is a defender though and needs to know how to defend first and foremost. He doesn't.

[Tokyo Blue]

Don't know what people have been watching, he's been brilliant for the last couple of games, as Fu said, he was involved in all three goals yesterday.
I think he's suffering from Edgehill syndrome, and gets shit he doesn't deserve.

He's been brilliant when there is ZERO pressure. Against top teams he would be eaten alive at right back. And I don't hate Navas at all. If we'd be upper mid-table side that playswith traditional 4-4-2 (or 3-5-2) with wingers playing wide and not cutting in I'd actually quite like him.

Fullback is a defender though and needs to know how to defend first and foremost. He doesn't.

I am not sure that a full-back is a defender in Guardiola's system these days. I would say the two central midfielders' defensive skills are more important than that of the full-backs, mate.

[Moonchesteri]

Navas has done his job at RB (and pretty much throughout his City career if we're honest) but he is no long term solution there.

[edge275]

Navas can't even play as a winger nevermind as a right back. Complete shite. Get rid.

[Sister of fu]

Don't know what people have been watching, he's been brilliant for the last couple of games, as Fu said, he was involved in all three goals yesterday.
I think he's suffering from Edgehill syndrome, and gets shit he doesn't deserve.

He's been brilliant when there is ZERO pressure. Against top teams he would be eaten alive at right back. And I don't hate Navas at all. If we'd be upper mid-table side that playswith traditional 4-4-2 (or 3-5-2) with wingers playing wide and not cutting in I'd actually quite like him.

Fullback is a defender though and needs to know how to defend first and foremost. He doesn't.

He played in games against Arsenal and Chelsea up against Sanchez and Hazard. Not at fault for any of the goals and not ripped a new arsehole. Not sure who you view as top teams in the Premier League?

Everyone knows we will get a new right back in the summer so everyone can stop with the moaning about Navas, he won't be here come summer. There will be some other poor fucker that will be snipped at.

[patrickblue]

Don't know what people have been watching, he's been brilliant for the last couple of games, as Fu said, he was involved in all three goals yesterday.
I think he's suffering from Edgehill syndrome, and gets shit he doesn't deserve.

He's been brilliant when there is ZERO pressure. Against top teams he would be eaten alive at right back. And I don't hate Navas at all. If we'd be upper mid-table side that playswith traditional 4-4-2 (or 3-5-2) with wingers playing wide and not cutting in I'd actually quite like him.

Fullback is a defender though and needs to know how to defend first and foremost. He doesn't.

He played in games against Arsenal and Chelsea up against Sanchez and Hazard. Not at fault for any of the goals and not ripped a new arsehole. Not sure who you view as top teams in the Premier League?

Everyone knows we will get a new right back in the summer so everyone can stop with the moaning about Navas, he won't be here come summer. There will be some other poor fucker that will be snipped at.

I was going to mention Arse and Chelsea, but TBH, couldn't be arsed, (see what I did there).
You're 100% right though sis, there always has to be a scapegoat.

[iwasthere2012]

I've never understood the vitriol poured this lads way.
Sis summed it up perfectly about him. He's never done anything less than his best no matter what he's been asked to do.
I don't think he'll be here next season so don't see him as a long term solution for anywhere, but I don't think he deserves half the reputation he has on here.

He may not be good enough for our ambitions, but I think he has taken the rap on a lot of occasions for some fans blinkered opinions of their firm favourites who should have been seen as equally culpable, if not more so.

[Pretty Boy Lee]

I've never understood the vitriol poured this lads way.
Sis summed it up perfectly about him. He's never done anything less than his best no matter what he's been asked to do.
I don't think he'll be here next season so don't see him as a long term solution for anywhere, but I don't think he deserves half the reputation he has on here.

He may not be good enough for our ambitions, but I think he has taken the rap on a lot of occasions for some fans blinkered opinions of their firm favourites who should have been seen as equally culpable, if not more so.

Again I'm not filled with hate or anything, but an attacker that hasn't scored in two years definitely needs to be looked at to a certain extent. He's never been accused of not trying, but he's definitely not up to standard anymore and converting him to a full back is football manager stuff in my opinion. When he goes I'll wish him well. He's an honest pro who did a good job when he first got here. Time has simply passed him by now.

[aaron bond]

He had a decent game on Sunday but he's no long term solution.

With Sagna out and Pep finally acknowledging that Zab's legs have gone it is a bit of a shame we are resorting to converting midfielders to right back instead of giving a youngster a chance.

When is the right time to try a youngster if the 2 first team right backs are not available? We seem to be more interested in putting the youth players out on loan for income (similar to Chelsea) instead of finding them a path to the first team.

[Dameerto]

He made it into Garth (Jabba The) Crooks' team of the week - along with Vinnie and Sane.