CL semi finals

[Hazy2]

And suddenly Monaco's potent attack looks average.

God, if we had a good defense we'd be so good.

So why did we lose 3-1 in Monaco and Juve win 2-0?

for me because we have Nico and Kolarov/Stones in defense (Kompany didnt play, did he?) and Willy/Bravo in goal while Juve have Bonucci and Chiellini in defense and Buffon in goal. no comparison whatsoever.

as simple as that.

Higuain, simple he takes chances we miss.If we had a ruthless player like that we would have run away with the league.

Higuin missed about 4 sitters before he scored last night. I'd hardly call him a ruthless striker, Juves weak link if anything

Your making that it up mate. As for weak link, Even more B.S

[Justified logic]

As I said (although you chose to delete it when quoting me) it was much more than just the defence where Juve did so much better. If you complete more passes, have a cutting edge in the last third then you rely on your defence less to defend - that's a key factor as is the fact they used wing backs enabling them to push Monaco back.

i do not remember the 2 legs with Monaco but given Pep's philosophy and the boring, boring pass pass pass possession style we currently employ coupled with Monaco's desire to use their pace to counter-attack, shouldn't we have completed more passes and had the ball more too?

We did.

We did indeed. We won (Guardiola Rules Football).

[Foreverinbluedreams]

As I said (although you chose to delete it when quoting me) it was much more than just the defence where Juve did so much better. If you complete more passes, have a cutting edge in the last third then you rely on your defence less to defend - that's a key factor as is the fact they used wing backs enabling them to push Monaco back.

i do not remember the 2 legs with Monaco but given Pep's philosophy and the boring, boring pass pass pass possession style we currently employ coupled with Monaco's desire to use their pace to counter-attack, shouldn't we have completed more passes and had the ball more too?

We did.

We did indeed. We won (Guardiola Rules Football).

Hilarious. smh

[phips]

As I said (although you chose to delete it when quoting me) it was much more than just the defence where Juve did so much better. If you complete more passes, have a cutting edge in the last third then you rely on your defence less to defend - that's a key factor as is the fact they used wing backs enabling them to push Monaco back.

i do not remember the 2 legs with Monaco but given Pep's philosophy and the boring, boring pass pass pass possession style we currently employ coupled with Monaco's desire to use their pace to counter-attack, shouldn't we have completed more passes and had the ball more too?

We did.

We did indeed. We won (Guardiola Rules Football).

hence the reason for me ignoring this facet and focusing solely on the defenders on the pitch when tying to explain the biggest diff between Juve vs. Monaco and City vs Monaco.

[Spurge]

As I said (although you chose to delete it when quoting me) it was much more than just the defence where Juve did so much better. If you complete more passes, have a cutting edge in the last third then you rely on your defence less to defend - that's a key factor as is the fact they used wing backs enabling them to push Monaco back.

i do not remember the 2 legs with Monaco but given Pep's philosophy and the boring, boring pass pass pass possession style we currently employ coupled with Monaco's desire to use their pace to counter-attack, shouldn't we have completed more passes and had the ball more too?

We did.

We did indeed. We won (Guardiola Rules Football).

hence the reason for me ignoring this facet and focusing solely on the defenders on the pitch when tying to explain the biggest diff between Juve vs. Monaco and City vs Monaco.

Oh dear, ok what would have been obvious to whoever watched both games was that juve used the ball much better than we did particularly in the last third. Their one touch passing and risky passes to players in that area of the pitch were coming off, we gave the ball away far too often in these situations particularly the first half, that's what I meant by completed passes. If we completed more passes statistically then I'm sure the majority would have been in our own half or sideways /backwards. At least fewer telling passes.

If anyone watched the two games and thinks the difference was just because of the defence then I can only suggest you try watching them again after that if you still think it's just the defensive display I will happily bow out of this thread.

[nottsblue]

Dani Alves with an absolute screamer to make it 2-0.

Juventus v Madrid in the final on June 3rd it is then

[Saul Goodman]

Man I hope we can get Bonucci

[mr_nool]

Game over. Might as well switch over to the Eurovision semi-finals now ...

[zuricity]

Dani Alves with an absolute screamer to make it 2-0.

Juventus v Madrid in the final on June 3rd it is then

no way, madrid will lose to the opposition!

[Hazy2]

Dani Alves with an absolute screamer to make it 2-0.

Juventus v Madrid in the final on June 3rd it is then

no way, madrid will lose to the opposition!

Juve have a 10 point lead in Italy maybe rest a few, I think it will be interesting, Juve will not freeze, but Madrid will be favourites. I hope Juve do it.

[zuricity]

Dani Alves with an absolute screamer to make it 2-0.

Juventus v Madrid in the final on June 3rd it is then

no way, madrid will lose to the opposition!

Juve have a 10 point lead in Italy maybe rest a few, I think it will be interesting, Juve will not freeze, but Madrid will be favourites. I hope Juve do it.

Doh ! I was only referring to the semi final.

[aaron bond]

Juve should have beaten Barcelona in the final a couple of years ago. They created so many good chances but didn't take them. They were the better side for large parts of the match.

[john68]

Juve proving how far a well organised, even if aged, defence can get you. Makes me sick to think of how we've fucked up this season with our error-prone, boring play.

It's difference in school of thought. I'm pretty old fashioned in that I believe building a good team starts with central defence (and goalkeeper) then central midfield. Once you got those pieces you are at least giving yourself a chance. Pep definitely has different mindset though. Not to slag him off (apparently you have to put that in every post) just a notion.

No mention of the failed bids to sign seven defensive players. Maybe Pep just had to work with what was handed to him.

[aaron bond]

Juve proving how far a well organised, even if aged, defence can get you. Makes me sick to think of how we've fucked up this season with our error-prone, boring play.

It's difference in school of thought. I'm pretty old fashioned in that I believe building a good team starts with central defence (and goalkeeper) then central midfield. Once you got those pieces you are at least giving yourself a chance. Pep definitely has different mindset though. Not to slag him off (apparently you have to put that in every post) just a notion.

No mention of the failed bids to sign seven defensive players. Maybe Pep just had to work with what was handed to him.

Even with our shite defenders, Pep could have played a settled defence so that they could become used to playing together (something that is key for a strong defence).

Instead he chose to change the line-up every single week.

There is no doubt we need to buy better players, but Pep didn't help the situation with his constant tinkering.

[nottsblue]

Interesting now at the Calderon

[nottsblue]

Interesting now at the Calderon

Very interesting at the Calderon. Penalty to Atletico

[nottsblue]

Griezeman scores to make it 2-0. Bet Zidanes ass is twitching now

[Saul Goodman]

Wow. Atleti couldve already overturned it

[Nickyboy]

Higuain, simple he takes chances we miss.If we had a ruthless player like that we would have run away with the league.

Higuin missed about 4 sitters before he scored last night. I'd hardly call him a ruthless striker, Juves weak link if anything

Your making that it up mate. As for weak link, Even more B.S

Him being the weak link is opinion, but he was definitely having a mare in the first leg before he scored. Shanked two easy chances and tripped over his own feet when clean through and that's just off the top of my head a week later

[Wonderwall]

This game is full.of ballet dancers tripping over laces and breaking their nails. Hate watching a bunch of 22 chearing tom daleys