pepsi_dave wrote:I've gotta be honest, we are really embarrassing ourselves with this kind of shit.
I know that the media in general appear to have an obvious bias against us, but I think with the BBC thing last night we're clutching at straws and perhaps searching for bias.
At first I had the same reaction, however after a bit of thought it became apparent that it's nothing more than a coincidence. I checked back through a few of the last BBC tweets where they have shown a snapshot of the league table, and for the past few I could find, 6 teams had been shown. They haven't changed their snapshot format. Just that 7 doesn't go into 6. The're hardly going to show us top of the tree and not show Arsenal when the story is about Arsenal being 7th.
I really don't think the tweet was thought about to the sinister lengths that a lot of our fan base have assumed it is.
The whole media bias thing is a bit tedious now anyways. We all know they don't like us so just fucking let them get on with it. As long as I support my club, I really couldn't give a flying fuck what anyone else writes or says.
Reacting to that the way (the collective) we have is laughable and I'm sorry to say it but that Joe article is pretty much right, are we really that fucking needy FFS?
Dave, mate....
let me, please, start first by stating that You, among all the special characters of this board, hold a special place in my heart. either out of the funniest avatar (probably) in the whole internet and, if memory doesn't fail me, that glorious post about wishing Whiskeynose stretched off, while jellies and candies are offered all throughout the stands. (was it actually yours, btw?)
Now, once paid fair dues... I really do appreciate the fact that a few Brits seems to be... simply unable to embrace the idea that, that RULE OF LAW, which have made and makes the British Civilization the benchmark for all others, can be twisted and bent in Britain as much as it's always been done on less advanced civilization. A law-abiding stance/point of view is always good, patriotic and, overall, very healty.
But what makes embarassing, an opinion grown and throughfully settled into the minds of 90+ % of a whole community?
can we all be that paranoid or, to put it differently, can so many people, from different backgrounds and educational/experiences grounds, all be so blind and daft to just surrender to own bias and passion, on a such long period of time spent on carefully appreciate the issue?
on this particular, minor I concede, example of "illustrious" web editing by the BBC, is it yet another coincidence that the department is run by a former employee of the rags?
How many more "coincidences" you will have to sum up, along the years, to let your desire for a civilized, fair playfield surrender to the overwhelming evidence of a kinda masonry, all out to pretect their business advandage?
Yet, in order to be even more fair in my respect for Your opinion, I am glad to concede that people with my educational background and professional bias tend to grow a cynicism bordering to paranoia by the years, but so do not do much of the others on here, who have grown into the same exact opinion from different backgrounds and experiences.
Ultimatelly, what makes the issue so much important, transcendent to whatever passion and bias from the fans is that, the following, is ENTIRELY THE POINT:
Original Dub wrote: The media don't just have influence mate, they have the biggest influence.
if You need further consideration, that I respect, please think about the striking impact of Fox News on the American society and debate: being it of incomparable bigger importance than "just football", it has been subject of countless case studies. you'll find plenty of leading sources to pick on your will and sensibility.
Surprisingly enough, the show in your domestic football industry is run by the same folks, applying the very same pattern.
Yet, again, why any company/corporation/firm worth the name would apportion significant resouces to P.R. and media handling, if the matter didn't had such significant impact on the overall outcome of their ventures?
P.s.: dont call me a coward. if you are interested on debating me on this, I'll be at your disposal from tomorrom. now my flight has been called and need to rush to be home in time for tonight game 