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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Dazzacity » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:38 am

Wooders wrote:
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bluechester wrote:heres a few

1. sven was over rated at this club, we played too defensive & our second half form of the season was relegation form
2. hate it when city fans sing munich songs, especially on tv, make us sounds like mongs
3. quite liked pearce, did well with the money he had to spend
4. really like scholes as a player
5. atmosphere at eastlands is shit, dont think the atmosphere at main rd was much better, especially in the latter years before moving,talking about the 90's here


I disagree with all of them. Like I do with about 99% of posts on this topic.

Fifth is probably closest to truth but people seem to only remember good games from Maine Road. I went to couple of games where noise level wasn't really all that. I also had priviledge to be in couple of games where the place was bumbing and it was like being in heaven.

To continue with the subject, I think there is FUCK ALL wrong with CoMS. People just aren't willing to raise the roof "because it's not Maine Road". If people got over Maine Road, the place could be absolutely tremendous home for us. Remember, Maine Road wasn't our first home anyway.


you disagree that the munich chants makes us sound like a bunch of mongs?

now I've heard it all I really have... because thats exactly what it does, whatever your reasoning for it being "ok" to do it


Well, thats football for you! If you are easily offended Id advise you not to go to another game again, or maybe sit in the family section?? I also dont join in with the Munich song, but dont look down on those that do. Im sorry, but not all of our fans are flask carrying,sandwich eaters- and Im fookin glad of it!!!

As for the atmos, maybe its people like yourself that make the atmos 'shit' as you say..?? I personally think its ok at times. Would just be nice to replace some of the silent sitters and extend the singers corner a couple more blocks
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby The Man In Blue » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:47 am

Munich songs are a fucking disgrace and we let ourselves down so badly with them. i have sung them in the past when younger, but once you know about life and death i dont know how anyone with any sense can glorify/celebrate that event.

Lets have it right - a plane load of mancs died horribly. what a great thing to sing about. people can point to the rags themselves living off of it but thats their fucking choice and it shows them up as the cunts they are. i hate it when we drop to their level.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Mike J » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:54 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Wooders wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
bluechester wrote:heres a few

1. sven was over rated at this club, we played too defensive & our second half form of the season was relegation form
2. hate it when city fans sing munich songs, especially on tv, make us sounds like mongs
3. quite liked pearce, did well with the money he had to spend
4. really like scholes as a player
5. atmosphere at eastlands is shit, dont think the atmosphere at main rd was much better, especially in the latter years before moving,talking about the 90's here


I disagree with all of them. Like I do with about 99% of posts on this topic.

Fifth is probably closest to truth but people seem to only remember good games from Maine Road. I went to couple of games where noise level wasn't really all that. I also had priviledge to be in couple of games where the place was bumbing and it was like being in heaven.

To continue with the subject, I think there is FUCK ALL wrong with CoMS. People just aren't willing to raise the roof "because it's not Maine Road". If people got over Maine Road, the place could be absolutely tremendous home for us. Remember, Maine Road wasn't our first home anyway.


you disagree that the munich chants makes us sound like a bunch of mongs?

now I've heard it all I really have... because thats exactly what it does, whatever your reasoning for it being "ok" to do it


Look mate, I'm not going to enter the whole "munich" argument as it's done to death before. I wouldn't sign munich songs myself but would most certainly not condemn people doing so. And they are not much better with their bondfire's and Hillsborough songs and Russian submarines and so on and so on.

Besides, this was about controversial opinions.


and?

two wrongs dont make a right. just because they sing that nasty shit doesnt mean we should carry on. the munich stuff is embarrassing and imo should be stopped. the morons will always sing songs like that though.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Im_Spartacus » Mon Jan 25, 2010 10:56 am

My controversial point is about Munich songs.

I think often people's perception about Munich songs is based on PC bollox more than anything else, or from a perception that people who sing those songs do it in a way that is meant to be disrespectful to those who died. From my personal point of view, the reference to United fans, or the club as "Munichs" has nothing to do with some of the country's best footballers being killed in a tragic accident.

It is to do with the way Manchester United have shamelessy courted the world's pity throughout the 60's, 70's and even more so in the last 3 decades, right upto the AIG sponsored 100ft Munich banner. They are a fucking disgrace, the lot of them, claiming that a disaster 50 years ago gives them a history, and because no other club have had an air disaster, they are the only club with a history

Without Munich, United would be nothing. My hatred of Munichs, is in a large part down to the way the club and the fans USE munich for their own advantage, and is never meant as disrespectful to those who died or their families.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Dazzacity » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:13 am

johnpb78 wrote:My controversial point is about Munich songs.

I think often people's perception about Munich songs is based on PC bollox more than anything else, or from a perception that people who sing those songs do it in a way that is meant to be disrespectful to those who died. From my personal point of view, the reference to U***d fans, or the club as "Munichs" has nothing to do with some of the country's best footballers being killed in a tragic accident.

It is to do with the way Manchester U***d have shamelessy courted the world's pity throughout the 60's, 70's and even more so in the last 3 decades, right upto the AIG sponsored 100ft Munich banner. They are a fucking disgrace, the lot of them, claiming that a disaster 50 years ago gives them a history, and because no other club have had an air disaster, they are the only club with a history

Without Munich, U***d would be nothing. My hatred of Munichs, is in a large part down to the way the club and the fans USE munich for their own advantage, and is never meant as disrespectful to those who died or their families.



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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby MARKMAKAVELI » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:23 am

johnpb78 wrote:My controversial point is about Munich songs.

I think often people's perception about Munich songs is based on PC bollox more than anything else, or from a perception that people who sing those songs do it in a way that is meant to be disrespectful to those who died. From my personal point of view, the reference to U***d fans, or the club as "Munichs" has nothing to do with some of the country's best footballers being killed in a tragic accident.

It is to do with the way Manchester U***d have shamelessy courted the world's pity throughout the 60's, 70's and even more so in the last 3 decades, right upto the AIG sponsored 100ft Munich banner. They are a fucking disgrace, the lot of them, claiming that a disaster 50 years ago gives them a history, and because no other club have had an air disaster, they are the only club with a history

Without Munich, U***d would be nothing. My hatred of Munichs, is in a large part down to the way the club and the fans USE munich for their own advantage, and is never meant as disrespectful to those who died or their families.


But people don't know that is what you mean when you are waving your arms around like a plane and scream "munich cunts".

Anyways, your entitled to your opinion. I am entitled to go and eat a peice of chicken. Hmmmm chicken...
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Im_Spartacus » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:25 am

Dazzacity wrote:
johnpb78 wrote:My controversial point is about Munich songs.

I think often people's perception about Munich songs is based on PC bollox more than anything else, or from a perception that people who sing those songs do it in a way that is meant to be disrespectful to those who died. From my personal point of view, the reference to U***d fans, or the club as "Munichs" has nothing to do with some of the country's best footballers being killed in a tragic accident.

It is to do with the way Manchester U***d have shamelessy courted the world's pity throughout the 60's, 70's and even more so in the last 3 decades, right upto the AIG sponsored 100ft Munich banner. They are a fucking disgrace, the lot of them, claiming that a disaster 50 years ago gives them a history, and because no other club have had an air disaster, they are the only club with a history

Without Munich, U***d would be nothing. My hatred of Munichs, is in a large part down to the way the club and the fans USE munich for their own advantage, and is never meant as disrespectful to those who died or their families.



*claps*

Givs me flashbacks of that clip from the street.


So so true

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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Dubaimancityfan » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:32 am

LookMumI'mOnMCF.net wrote:
Mr Miyagi wrote:I can't believe you have only listed two....

Anyway, the only one I can think of at the moment is this: I don't think Shay Given is a great goalkeeper. He's a great shot-stopper, but not a great goalkeeper. There, I've said it.

I actually agree with you here chief.

I was watching a game a few weeks ago in the pub and a guy I was speaking to put up a solid case against Given. He argued that good defences fell to bits when he was in goal, which I couldn't really find fault with. But his main point was that Given refuses to come out on crosses and that he looks good because, in refusing to come, it seems he makes no mistakes.

I watched Given carefully for the next few games and I couldn't disagree at all. While, as you say, he has great reflexes, the best of any 'keeper in the world (imo), he's not commanding enough to be a world great and he doesn't take charge in the 6 yard box.

Fully agree on this and I've noticed this weakness with Shay a long time ago and mentioned it in one of my posts. Still he is a great
keeper and has earned us a lot of points since he joined us. The point is, he can become even a greater keeper if he comes out more for the crosses.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Beeks » Mon Jan 25, 2010 11:53 am

I have no qualms at all about calling rags munichs

75,000 people died in Haiti...people die all the time in various disasters...it happens

I didn't know anyone personally who was on that plane

All I know is the rags hate it...and the MAJORITY of blues who sing have no qualms about singing it

This is rivalry...anything to wind up the opposition

The rags do it...the scousers...we do it...as do many teams in the Prem and beyond...

I'm not saying it is right...but to be offended by it is to be naive
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Wooders » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:08 pm

Dazzacity wrote:
Wooders wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
bluechester wrote:heres a few

1. sven was over rated at this club, we played too defensive & our second half form of the season was relegation form
2. hate it when city fans sing munich songs, especially on tv, make us sounds like mongs
3. quite liked pearce, did well with the money he had to spend
4. really like scholes as a player
5. atmosphere at eastlands is shit, dont think the atmosphere at main rd was much better, especially in the latter years before moving,talking about the 90's here


I disagree with all of them. Like I do with about 99% of posts on this topic.

Fifth is probably closest to truth but people seem to only remember good games from Maine Road. I went to couple of games where noise level wasn't really all that. I also had priviledge to be in couple of games where the place was bumbing and it was like being in heaven.

To continue with the subject, I think there is FUCK ALL wrong with CoMS. People just aren't willing to raise the roof "because it's not Maine Road". If people got over Maine Road, the place could be absolutely tremendous home for us. Remember, Maine Road wasn't our first home anyway.


you disagree that the munich chants makes us sound like a bunch of mongs?

now I've heard it all I really have... because thats exactly what it does, whatever your reasoning for it being "ok" to do it


Well, thats football for you! If you are easily offended Id advise you not to go to another game again, or maybe sit in the family section?? I also dont join in with the Munich song, but dont look down on those that do. Im sorry, but not all of our fans are flask carrying,sandwich eaters- and Im fookin glad of it!!!

As for the atmos, maybe its people like yourself that make the atmos 'shit' as you say..?? I personally think its ok at times. Would just be nice to replace some of the silent sitters and extend the singers corner a couple more blocks


oh fuck off with your don't go to games shit
I am saying it makes us look like mongs - anyone who disagrees with that is clearly a fuckin grade a monga themselves
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Beeks » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:11 pm

Wooders wrote:I am saying it makes us look like mongs


You do realise the irony?

If you're looking to be PC that's not really a word to be using
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Wooders » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:13 pm

IanBishopsHaircut wrote:
Wooders wrote:I am saying it makes us look like mongs


You do realise the irony?

If you're looking to be PC that's not really a word to be using


I was using the wording of the original poster but yeah - its not pc'ness.... bah, you know what, forget it.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Rae4685 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:36 pm

Sister of fu wrote:
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Yeah but thats only every 28 days or so give or take..............



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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Rae4685 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:39 pm

MaseCTID wrote:Can't be bothered reading through all the pages on this thread, but I think Anelka is the best striker in the Premiership.

Also, I fuckin love Joey Barton!


Ditto i remember cheering loudly everytime he flew into one of his over the top challenges! No doubting his complete and utter lack of brain cells but i still miss him!
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Rae4685 » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:43 pm

Dazzacity wrote:
johnpb78 wrote:My controversial point is about Munich songs.

I think often people's perception about Munich songs is based on PC bollox more than anything else, or from a perception that people who sing those songs do it in a way that is meant to be disrespectful to those who died. From my personal point of view, the reference to U***d fans, or the club as "Munichs" has nothing to do with some of the country's best footballers being killed in a tragic accident.

It is to do with the way Manchester U***d have shamelessy courted the world's pity throughout the 60's, 70's and even more so in the last 3 decades, right upto the AIG sponsored 100ft Munich banner. They are a fucking disgrace, the lot of them, claiming that a disaster 50 years ago gives them a history, and because no other club have had an air disaster, they are the only club with a history

Without Munich, U***d would be nothing. My hatred of Munichs, is in a large part down to the way the club and the fans USE munich for their own advantage, and is never meant as disrespectful to those who died or their families.


SPOT ON!!! i use the word munichs etc but refuse to sing along with most of the songs and the bellends who stand on chairs doing a crashing plane simulation are just embarassing!

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Re: Controversial Opinions

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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Original Dub » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:50 pm

What the fuck has this thread got to do with the Maine Football Forum? Its as 'off topic' as you can get.

Anyway, controversial opinions...

Ade wearing an arsenal jersey pissed me off at the time, even though he'd been invovled in a tragedy a few days earlier.

Sven's football always bored me and I thought he was a piss taker with how little he seemed to care about the club. He was the Robinho of managers!

I think Stuart Pearce did a great job driving us up the table to almost qualify for europe, dealing with losing our best players and having the smallest budget to work with... and still keeping us in the premier league. I honestly believe we wouldn't be playing football like we did if we'd have the money we have now. I also think he will manager England one day, after managing in the premier league for maybe ten years at somewhere like West Ham.

I wanted Carlos Tevez more than every other player we were linked with in the last window (maybe on par with Eto'o) and even when he was playing for United, I couldn't help but like him. It made my year when we finally signed him and I had little doubt he would be more important to us than Robinho. I also think he's a far better player than Robinho.

I think there are people on this board who aren't genuine Man city supporters. They are supporters of the money and would be gone like a light if the Sheikh left. They tend to want to cause rows and haven't the capabilities to analyse a game of football. Some are gone now having been found out after a year or so, but there's one or two left.

I think City will win the premier league before Liverpool do. This may not be controversial any longer, but not one person agreed with me when I first said it after the takeover.

Sarcasm in an forum argument pisses me off. Its much easier to be straight with someone than patronise and provoke. The former merely adds fuel to the fire IMO.
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Ted Hughes » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:56 pm

Original Dub wrote:Sarcasm in an forum argument pisses me off. Its much easier to be straight with someone than patronise and provoke. The former merely adds fuel to the fire IMO.



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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby Original Dub » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:58 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Original Dub wrote:Sarcasm in an forum argument pisses me off. Its much easier to be straight with someone than patronise and provoke. The former merely adds fuel to the fire IMO.



Ohh you're soooooo right, well done.


Are you being sarcastic Edward?!
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Re: Controversial Opinions

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:02 pm

Original Dub wrote:What the fuck has this thread got to do with the Maine Football Forum? Its as 'off topic' as you can get.

Anyway, controversial opinions...

Ade wearing an arsenal jersey pissed me off at the time, even though he'd been invovled in a tragedy a few days earlier.

Sven's football always bored me and I thought he was a piss taker with how little he seemed to care about the club. He was the Robinho of managers!

I think Stuart Pearce did a great job driving us up the table to almost qualify for europe, dealing with losing our best players and having the smallest budget to work with... and still keeping us in the premier league. I honestly believe we wouldn't be playing football like we did if we'd have the money we have now. I also think he will manager England one day, after managing in the premier league for maybe ten years at somewhere like West Ham.

I wanted Carlos Tevez more than every other player we were linked with in the last window (maybe on par with Eto'o) and even when he was playing for U***d, I couldn't help but like him. It made my year when we finally signed him and I had little doubt he would be more important to us than Robinho. I also think he's a far better player than Robinho.

I think there are people on this board who aren't genuine Man city supporters. They are supporters of the money and would be gone like a light if the Sheikh left. They tend to want to cause rows and haven't the capabilities to analyse a game of football. Some are gone now having been found out after a year or so, but there's one or two left.

I think City will win the premier league before Liverpool do. This may not be controversial any longer, but not one person agreed with me when I first said it after the takeover.

Sarcasm in an forum argument pisses me off. Its much easier to be straight with someone than patronise and provoke. The former merely adds fuel to the fire IMO.




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