safe standing

[South Stand Balti]

No one would have died that day if there had been no fences. There were fences because of football hooligans. This terrible disaster started years before it happened with scum fighting and throwing missiles.

[Mase]

Jesus Christ.
Idiots.
We ALL got treated like that at football. Luckily for us,it wasn't us that got killed at Hillsborough. It really could have been though. Read up before you shout spite like this. It makes you look a fool.

But you ALL didn’t react in the same way. That’s the point. You’re actually proving my point. You say you all got treated like that at football, yet it didn’t happen at any other club.

[zuricity]

And they all had tickets for the match ! yeah really.

You are probably right. They probably didn't all have tickets as there would have been some outside looking for tickets.

BUT THE POLICE LET THEM ALL IN IN AN UNCONTROLLED WAY.

Jeez, it is so simple. Just put your stupid prejudices aside for once for chrissake.

how dare you ? who are you calling prejudiced ?

just re.read what you have written , who owns Hillborough swfc or the police ?

[Justified logic]

And they all had tickets for the match ! yeah really.

You are probably right. They probably didn't all have tickets as there would have been some outside looking for tickets.

BUT THE POLICE LET THEM ALL IN IN AN UNCONTROLLED WAY.

Jeez, it is so simple. Just put your stupid prejudices aside for once for chrissake.

how dare you ? who are you calling prejudiced ?

just re.read what you have written , who owns Hillborough swfc or the police ?

Well you may have point. Who was given the blame as a result of the far too belated enquiry? Genuine question.

[Justified logic]

And they all had tickets for the match ! yeah really.

You are probably right. They probably didn't all have tickets as there would have been some outside looking for tickets.

BUT THE POLICE LET THEM ALL IN IN AN UNCONTROLLED WAY.

Jeez, it is so simple. Just put your stupid prejudices aside for once for chrissake.

how dare you ? who are you calling prejudiced ?

just re.read what you have written , who owns Hillborough swfc or the police ?

Well you may have point. Who was given the blame as a result of the far too belated enquiry? Genuine question.

Here you are. I'll save you the brain energy.

Hillsborough inquest timeline: the long wait for justice

Specifically...

26 April 2016

The inquest jury delivers its verdict. Among the 14 questions it is asked to decide upon, it concludes:

• The 96 people who died in the disaster were unlawfully killed, overturning the verdict of accidental death at the original inquest.
  
• No behaviour on the part of Liverpool fans contributed to the dangerous situation at the Leppings Lane turnstiles. This, at last, comprehensively exonerates the supporters who were blamed for causing the disaster in its immediate aftermath.
  
• Defects in the construction and layout of the stadium contributed to the disaster.
  
• “Errors and omissions” by the commanding police officers and the entire police operation on the day contributed to the causes of the disaster.
  
• Errors and omissions in the stadium’s layout and design, and its lack of a valid safety certificate contributed to the tragedy, as did Sheffield Wednesday FC’s preparation for the match. On the question of whether the club’s actions on the day of the game were a contributory factor, the jury could not say for sure but said they may have been
  
• Errors and omissions by the South Yorkshire metropolitan ambulance service contributed to the disaster.

In case it has got lost, this concerns the deaths of 96 people who were totally innocent in the matter.

One also has to ask why it took 27 (TWENTY-SEVEN) years for the police to be brought to book. Genuine concern. It would have taken the police a week, max, to point the finger at the scouse scum. Scrap that, it just took until the next day's newspaper headline.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Jesus Christ.
Idiots.
We ALL got treated like that at football. Luckily for us,it wasn't us that got killed at Hillsborough. It really could have been though. Read up before you shout spite like this. It makes you look a fool.

But you ALL didn’t react in the same way. That’s the point. You’re actually proving my point. You say you all got treated like that at football, yet it didn’t happen at any other club.

There were crush injuries in exactly The same place when Wolves fans were in the Leppings Lane End in the 1981 semi final against Spurs. Nobody died fortunately that day but the warnings were ignored.

[zuricity]

And they all had tickets for the match ! yeah really.

You are probably right. They probably didn't all have tickets as there would have been some outside looking for tickets.

BUT THE POLICE LET THEM ALL IN IN AN UNCONTROLLED WAY.

Jeez, it is so simple. Just put your stupid prejudices aside for once for chrissake.

how dare you ? who are you calling prejudiced ?

just re.read what you have written , who owns Hillborough swfc or the police ?

Well you may have point. Who was given the blame as a result of the far too belated enquiry? Genuine question.

Inquiry?

yes, it is always somebody else’s fault

[Justified logic]

And they all had tickets for the match ! yeah really.

You are probably right. They probably didn't all have tickets as there would have been some outside looking for tickets.

BUT THE POLICE LET THEM ALL IN IN AN UNCONTROLLED WAY.

Jeez, it is so simple. Just put your stupid prejudices aside for once for chrissake.

how dare you ? who are you calling prejudiced ?

just re.read what you have written , who owns Hillborough swfc or the police ?

Well you may have point. Who was given the blame as a result of the far too belated enquiry? Genuine question.

Inquiry?

yes, it is always somebody else’s fault

You are a fool.

[Nigels Tackle]

And they all had tickets for the match ! yeah really.

You are probably right. They probably didn't all have tickets as there would have been some outside looking for tickets.

BUT THE POLICE LET THEM ALL IN IN AN UNCONTROLLED WAY.

Jeez, it is so simple. Just put your stupid prejudices aside for once for chrissake.

how dare you ? who are you calling prejudiced ?

just re.read what you have written , who owns Hillborough swfc or the police ?

Well you may have point. Who was given the blame as a result of the far too belated enquiry? Genuine question.

Inquiry?

yes, it is always somebody else’s fault

https://www.theguardian.com/football/20 ... ory.sport8

[zuricity]

^^^^

Fool ? why don’t you read what you have quoted and then explain to me, how any of the three comments i made contradict the inquiry findings ?

[Beefymcfc]

No one would have died that day if there had been no fences. There were fences because of football hooligans. This terrible disaster started years before it happened with scum fighting and throwing missiles.

It's like we led ourselves down our own path. It's disgraceful how the Police acted but in essence we as fans have to take some of the blame.

[Tokyo Blue]

BUT THE POLICE LET THEM ALL IN IN AN UNCONTROLLED WAY.

If they’d had tickets, they wouldn’t have been at the gates, they’d have been at the turnstiles. If they were at the gates when they did have tickets, why do that? Something is rather amiss there.

If there is no one at the gates and they were all lining up at the turnstiles like normal people with tickets do, why open the gates?

Something does not add up here.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

BUT THE POLICE LET THEM ALL IN IN AN UNCONTROLLED WAY.

If they’d had tickets, they wouldn’t have been at the gates, they’d have been at the turnstiles. If they were at the gates when they did have tickets, why do that? Something is rather amiss there.

If there is no one at the gates and they were all lining up at the turnstiles like normal people with tickets do, why open the gates?

Something does not add up here.

They had seven turnstiles to admit over 10000 Liverpool fans. As time marched on the area became increasingly congested. Queues? Have you been in that area outside Leppings Lane?

[Mase]

That’s not true. It clearly showed on the programme BBC did last year that the Scouse twats saw one of the gates wasn’t manned and they all ran for it - WITHOUT TICKETS - to sneak in and force their way in to the ground.

There was people on the programme that admitted there were hundreds of fans there without tickets that saw an opportunity and forced their way in.

[Original Dub]

There has to be some blame on the fans. Of course there has.

The problem in this case is that ALL the blame was laid on the fans and because of the decades long aftermath of that, ALL the blame was lifted.

The enquiry would have went on forever if the findings had have been any other way

[zuricity]

BUT THE POLICE LET THEM ALL IN IN AN UNCONTROLLED WAY.

If they’d had tickets, they wouldn’t have been at the gates, they’d have been at the turnstiles. If they were at the gates when they did have tickets, why do that? Something is rather amiss there.

If there is no one at the gates and they were all lining up at the turnstiles like normal people with tickets do, why open the gates?

Something does not add up here.

Well i suppose you could also blame British rail for getting them all there on time.

[Tokyo Blue]

They had seven turnstiles to admit over 10000 Liverpool fans. As time marched on the area became increasingly congested. Queues? Have you been in that area outside Leppings Lane?

Yes, both before and after this sad event. Yes, it took a while to get in; yes, I arrived over an hour before kick off; and no, I didn't rush at the gates to try and expedite matters.

[Tokyo Blue]

BUT THE POLICE LET THEM ALL IN IN AN UNCONTROLLED WAY.

If they’d had tickets, they wouldn’t have been at the gates, they’d have been at the turnstiles. If they were at the gates when they did have tickets, why do that? Something is rather amiss there.

If there is no one at the gates and they were all lining up at the turnstiles like normal people with tickets do, why open the gates?

Something does not add up here.

Well i suppose you could also blame British rail for getting them all there on time.

As if.

[Nigels Tackle]

BUT THE POLICE LET THEM ALL IN IN AN UNCONTROLLED WAY.

If they’d had tickets, they wouldn’t have been at the gates, they’d have been at the turnstiles. If they were at the gates when they did have tickets, why do that? Something is rather amiss there.

If there is no one at the gates and they were all lining up at the turnstiles like normal people with tickets do, why open the gates?

Something does not add up here.

Well i suppose you could also blame British rail for getting them all there on time.

As if.

they were probably on strike that day...

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

The myth of fans without tickets has been well and truly debunked.
If when the outer gate was opened there had been coppers at the tunnels that went down to the central pens it still needn't have happened.
Where were they? At the flanks as what they were bothered about, was stopping people jibbing in the seats for nothing.