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by Nigels Tackle » Wed Jan 02, 2019 1:51 pm
nottsblue wrote:Chelsea sign Pulisic from Dortmund for £58M and loan him back until the summer. He becomes the Bundesligas second most expensive player after Ousmane Dembele.
what would sancho be worth?!
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by Saul Goodman » Wed Jan 02, 2019 2:21 pm
Sideshow Bob wrote:nottsblue wrote:Chelsea sign Pulisic from Dortmund for £58M and loan him back until the summer. He becomes the Bundesligas second most expensive player after Ousmane Dembele.
huge gamble imo. he is talented but inconsistent. and the fee makes kdb seem a bargain even moreso.
Agreed. It's a huge gamble. The lad isn't even good enough to start for Dortmund anymore and even when he started he never really scored goals. No way is he worth that kind of money, especially with only 1.5 yrs left on his deal. But Chelsea like to throw around the cash.
I'm not worried. This doesn't improve them in any meaningful way.
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by Sideshow Bob » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:07 pm
i wouldnt say no to ndombele. but that is based solely on his performances against us.
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by sheblue » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:13 pm
Pep was a bit shifty today when asked about new signings this month.
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by Hutch's Shoulder » Wed Jan 02, 2019 3:16 pm
Maybe what the Chelsea signing does show is that for once they are planning ahead and not intending to change manager in the summer?
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by PrezIke » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:52 pm
carl_feedthegoat wrote:WTF has his age got to do with his ability ?
Stop looking for excuses that don't exist..he was good enough and Dortmund certainly recognized this.
All PeP had to do was play him a few minutes here and there to convince him , like he did with Foden...but he didn't....he went out and bought MehRez instead.
Sometimes its best just to fuckign recognize a fuckup from our hierarchy when theres a fuck up instead of looking for non existing excuses.
The reason this happened was the Sanchez interest we had and was well known.
What was then a big issue with the team and is still now is finishing, so who was better and likely to be more reliable at this? It’s not even close in terms of rating unless you’re lying to yourself, and effectively that’s why he left for Dortmund. We were also expecting to get Alexis for a fee far below his value due to his contract situation.
No one expected Sancho to become this good this fast. I don’t even think Dortmund did.
We then pursued Mahrez for his finishing as well and this has led Brahim to go as well.
So you have to blame Pep for not pursing a world class striker at the time for a log-jammed attacking unit with big questions about its finishing capabilities outside of Kun, who was also possibly looking like he was leaving after the next season. It was a very tough decision and bottom line is we offered him a very nice waged contract to stay and he said no.
Really it was about a 16/17 year old Sancho versus World class Alexis and after Pep's first season the pressure to win trophies was much higher so risking this chance at Alexis (and later Mahrez after the issue of finishing persisted) on unproven teenagers over him seems rather risky to me.
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by PrezIke » Wed Jan 02, 2019 6:57 pm
Nigels Tackle wrote:nottsblue wrote:Chelsea sign Pulisic from Dortmund for £58M and loan him back until the summer. He becomes the Bundesligas second most expensive player after Ousmane Dembele.
what would sancho be worth?!
I think Pulisic's fee is also inflated due to his marketing value by playing for the USA as the star player.
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by PrezIke » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:11 pm
Saul Goodman wrote:Sideshow Bob wrote:nottsblue wrote:Chelsea sign Pulisic from Dortmund for £58M and loan him back until the summer. He becomes the Bundesligas second most expensive player after Ousmane Dembele.
huge gamble imo. he is talented but inconsistent. and the fee makes kdb seem a bargain even moreso.
Agreed. It's a huge gamble. The lad isn't even good enough to start for Dortmund anymore and even when he started he never really scored goals. No way is he worth that kind of money, especially with only 1.5 yrs left on his deal. But Chelsea like to throw around the cash.
I'm not worried. This doesn't improve them in any meaningful way.
I think he's had several muscle injuries this season, as Sancho has played so well. It's also hard to justify getting him back into the team when it's also known his contract is winding down and he has said he wanted to come to the PL as Sancho is in such form.
I'm just saying I think there may be more to the story as to why he's not playing, and I wouldn't assume he won't improve. I will say I haven't watched a lot of him this season though.
He could come very good and would have cost nearly twice that if he was playing as he was 1 season ago.
Good move for him and the USA team, actually.
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by bigblue » Wed Jan 02, 2019 8:26 pm
Sideshow Bob wrote:nottsblue wrote:Chelsea sign Pulisic from Dortmund for £58M and loan him back until the summer. He becomes the Bundesligas second most expensive player after Ousmane Dembele.
huge gamble imo. he is talented but inconsistent. and the fee makes kdb seem a bargain even moreso.
I think he's mainly a commercial signing rather than an on the field signing. They'll get loads of new American fans and preference in TV games shown over here. Like how PL teams used to sign the odd Chinese/Asian player a few years ago. They might be average, but you get 100 million new fans on the other side of the world.
edit: apologies PrezIke, I see you posted the exact same thing before me
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by Nigels Tackle » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:46 am
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by Foreverinbluedreams » Thu Jan 03, 2019 9:51 am
Nigels Tackle wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6553093/Bayern-Munich-make-improved-30m-bid-Chelsea-starlet-Callum-Hudson-Odoi.html
how much does this make sancho worth?
Sancho? It has no bearing on his worth. Sancho, like everyone else, is worth whatever someone is willing to pay.
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by PeterParker » Thu Jan 03, 2019 10:54 am
Fantastic how people still have the nerve to say we are ruining the market when Chelsea pay that much for this fella.
It shows how the media is really on about and how many people listen to it.
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by Sideshow Bob » Thu Jan 03, 2019 2:25 pm
bigblue wrote:Sideshow Bob wrote:nottsblue wrote:Chelsea sign Pulisic from Dortmund for £58M and loan him back until the summer. He becomes the Bundesligas second most expensive player after Ousmane Dembele.
huge gamble imo. he is talented but inconsistent. and the fee makes kdb seem a bargain even moreso.
I think he's mainly a commercial signing rather than an on the field signing. They'll get loads of new American fans and preference in TV games shown over here. Like how PL teams used to sign the odd Chinese/Asian player a few years ago. They might be average, but you get 100 million new fans on the other side of the world.
edit: apologies PrezIke, I see you posted the exact same thing before me
good points although this type of pandering makes me hate the modern game. and myself for watching it.
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by PrezIke » Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:20 pm
bigblue wrote:Sideshow Bob wrote:nottsblue wrote:Chelsea sign Pulisic from Dortmund for £58M and loan him back until the summer. He becomes the Bundesligas second most expensive player after Ousmane Dembele.
huge gamble imo. he is talented but inconsistent. and the fee makes kdb seem a bargain even moreso.
I think he's mainly a commercial signing rather than an on the field signing. They'll get loads of new American fans and preference in TV games shown over here. Like how PL teams used to sign the odd Chinese/Asian player a few years ago. They might be average, but you get 100 million new fans on the other side of the world.
edit: apologies PrezIke, I see you posted the exact same thing before me
All good man!
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by Saul Goodman » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:21 pm
PeterParker wrote:Fantastic how people still have the nerve to say we are ruining the market when Chelsea pay that much for this fella.
It shows how the media is really on about and how many people listen to it.
Pulisic + Kepa is how much?! 140M?
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by PeterParker » Thu Jan 03, 2019 7:45 pm
Saul Goodman wrote:PeterParker wrote:Fantastic how people still have the nerve to say we are ruining the market when Chelsea pay that much for this fella.
It shows how the media is really on about and how many people listen to it.
Pulisic + Kepa is how much?! 140M?
Around four times more we paid for Silva when people claimed we broke the bank.
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by PeterParker » Fri Jan 04, 2019 6:15 pm
Noticed Pep's post match comments? "We don't have a left back".
Yeah, we will sign someone. That was it.
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by PeterParker » Sat Jan 05, 2019 3:58 pm
Clyne and Solanke move to Bournmouth.
Imagine Alexander Arnold gets injured later this month.
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by Saul Goodman » Sat Jan 05, 2019 6:02 pm
PeterParker wrote:Clyne and Solanke move to Bournmouth.
Imagine Alexander Arnold gets injured later this month.
No worries. They have a capable replacement in James Milner.
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