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Postby Mase » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:43 am

Wasn't Messi 16 when he was given his debut in the first team? Rooney was given his debut at 16. There's loads.
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Re: Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:45 am

Mase wrote:Wasn't Messi 16 when he was given his debut in the first team? Rooney was given his debut at 16. There's loads.


Messi was 17, Rooney was at Everton
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Re: Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby Mase » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:47 am

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:Wasn't Messi 16 when he was given his debut in the first team? Rooney was given his debut at 16. There's loads.


Messi was 17, Rooney was at Everton


"At 16 years, four months, and 23 days old, Messi made his first team debut when he came on in the 75th minute..."
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Re: Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:48 am

Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:Wasn't Messi 16 when he was given his debut in the first team? Rooney was given his debut at 16. There's loads.


Messi was 17, Rooney was at Everton


"At 16 years, four months, and 23 days old, Messi made his first team debut when he came on in the 75th minute..."


In a friendly
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Re: Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby Nigels Tackle » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:49 am

Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:Wasn't Messi 16 when he was given his debut in the first team? Rooney was given his debut at 16. There's loads.


Messi was 17, Rooney was at Everton


"At 16 years, four months, and 23 days old, Messi made his first team debut when he came on in the 75th minute..."


sancho is on track to fill the void left when messi and ronaldo retire.
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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby PeterParker » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:37 pm

Kompany had his first european start for Anderlecht at the age of 17.
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Re: Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Jan 27, 2019 12:59 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:Wasn't Messi 16 when he was given his debut in the first team? Rooney was given his debut at 16. There's loads.


Messi was 17, Rooney was at Everton


"At 16 years, four months, and 23 days old, Messi made his first team debut when he came on in the 75th minute..."


In a friendly


Keep digging that hole..its getting bigger.
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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:01 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Seedorf and Whiteside, going back a bit there.

Wilshere is the only half decent example relative to Sancho in your list.


Rooney joined the Everton youth team at the age of 9, and made his professional debut for the club in 2002 at the age of 16.

James Milner made his Premier League debut as a 16-year-old in November 2002

Matthew Briggs, Fulham aged 16

There are so many more.....fuckign hilarious FIBD..do some fuckign homework you know all fuckall.!!!
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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:06 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
Mase wrote:Wasn't Messi 16 when he was given his debut in the first team? Rooney was given his debut at 16. There's loads.


Messi was 17, Rooney was at Everton


"At 16 years, four months, and 23 days old, Messi made his first team debut when he came on in the 75th minute..."


In a friendly


Keep digging that hole..its getting bigger.


Stating facts is digging a hole? He made his competitive debut at 17.
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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:07 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Seedorf and Whiteside, going back a bit there.

Wilshere is the only half decent example relative to Sancho in your list.


Rooney joined the Everton youth team at the age of 9, and made his professional debut for the club in 2002 at the age of 16.

James Milner made his Premier League debut as a 16-year-old in November 2002

Matthew Briggs, Fulham aged 16

There are so many more.....fuckign hilarious FIBD..do some fuckign homework you know all fuckall.!!!


Top clubs? Keep searching
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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:08 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Seedorf and Whiteside, going back a bit there.

Wilshere is the only half decent example relative to Sancho in your list.


Rooney joined the Everton youth team at the age of 9, and made his professional debut for the club in 2002 at the age of 16.

James Milner made his Premier League debut as a 16-year-old in November 2002

Matthew Briggs, Fulham aged 16

There are so many more.....fuckign hilarious FIBD..do some fuckign homework you know all fuckall.!!!


Top clubs? Keep searching


Real madrid not a big club ?

You've been made to look a prat.....slink away while the goings good.
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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:08 pm

Where's the 16 year olds at top clubs Carl?

Oh and the name calling has started, figures
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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:09 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Where's the 16 year olds at top clubs Carl?


You are hilarious.
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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:13 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Where's the 16 year olds at top clubs Carl?

Oh and the name calling has started, figures


When you act like a condescending PRAT you end up being called one.

I have even jotted down some TOP TEAMS so you can gawk at the 16 year olds who made their debuts.

Now then , if you think the following are not TOP teams then I have nothing esle to say to you :

Inter Milan

AC Milan

Real Madrid

B. Dortmund

Barcelona

Ajax

Scum

Bindippers.

All clubs mentioned have had 16 year olds make their debuts.

Prat.!
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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:29 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Where's the 16 year olds at top clubs Carl?

Oh and the name calling has started, figures


When you act like a condescending PRAT you end up being called one.

I have even jotted down some TOP TEAMS so you can gawk at the 16 year olds who made their debuts.

Now then , if you think the following are not TOP teams then I have nothing esle to say to you :

Inter Milan

AC Milan

Real Madrid

B. Dortmund

Barcelona

Ajax

Scum

Bindippers.

All clubs mentioned have had 16 year olds make their debuts.

Prat.!


Apart from Wilshire ( and maybe Donnarumma) they're shit examples, as they're either so long ago they're irrelevant to this discussion or they're players that were given a token appearance.

Bottom line is it is unrealistic to have expected Sancho to get minutes when he was here.

If we're going to criticise the club then it should be aimed at what went before Sancho, the lack of youth getting minutes under Pellegrini, not how Sancho was handled personally.
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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Jan 27, 2019 1:52 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Where's the 16 year olds at top clubs Carl?

Oh and the name calling has started, figures


When you act like a condescending PRAT you end up being called one.

I have even jotted down some TOP TEAMS so you can gawk at the 16 year olds who made their debuts.

Now then , if you think the following are not TOP teams then I have nothing esle to say to you :

Inter Milan

AC Milan

Real Madrid

B. Dortmund

Barcelona

Ajax

Scum

Bindippers.

All clubs mentioned have had 16 year olds make their debuts.

Prat.!


Apart from Wilshire ( and maybe Donnarumma) they're shit examples, as they're either so long ago they're irrelevant to this discussion or they're players that were given a token appearance.

Bottom line is it is unrealistic to have expected Sancho to get minutes when he was here.

If we're going to criticise the club then it should be aimed at what went before Sancho, the lack of youth getting minutes under Pellegrini, not how Sancho was handled personally.


No no no - you do not get to dismiss some fuckign clear examples of 16 year olds making their debuts for other clubs just to try make your argument gain any justification.

It can be argued that the teams mentioned had nowhere near as many class supporting acts as we have on our books , yet they still put 16 year old on the field - we had enough class support to make a 16 year old Sancho comfortable on his debut.

There can be zero ARGUMENT that not playing Sancho in any game, for even 2 minutes, was bad management ....and I reckon deep down PeP knows this.
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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:17 pm

Deep down he knows yet he said this just a couple of weeks ago.

"We did with Brahim everything we have done with Phil (Foden) and with Jadon - important players and we did absolutely everything. The only one who decides to stay is Phil."
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Re: Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby Hutch's Shoulder » Sun Jan 27, 2019 2:52 pm

Those 16 year old successes are atypical examples, exceptional players. Most 16 year olds think they deserve to be in first team, but don't. If Sancho proves he should have been, then fair enough, but still to be done. If he was, he would not have won us any trophies until maybe 2022, so no use worrying about him really, he's gone, move on.
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Re: Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby Nigels Tackle » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:02 pm

Hutch's Shoulder wrote:Those 16 year old successes are atypical examples, exceptional players. Most 16 year olds think they deserve to be in first team, but don't. If Sancho proves he should have been, then fair enough, but still to be done. If he was, he would not have won us any trophies until maybe 2022, so no use worrying about him really, he's gone, move on.


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Re: ***city v burnley fa cup official match thread***

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:03 pm

Foreverinbluedreams wrote:Deep down he knows yet he said this just a couple of weeks ago.

"We did with Brahim everything we have done with Phil (Foden) and with Jadon - important players and we did absolutely everything. The only one who decides to stay is Phil."


He lies to the media all the time ................................so shall we just pick and choose what he says to suit your argument ?
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