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Re: Football Media

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:26 pm

Mase wrote:

Very weird of the Chairman if that’s true. Very very weird.

There is 115 reasons why Ratcliffe doesn’t think we are cheating then
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Re: Football Media

Postby Mase » Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:32 pm

Harry Dowd scored wrote:
Mase wrote:

Very weird of the Chairman if that’s true. Very very weird.

There is 115 reasons why Ratcliffe doesn’t think we are cheating then


Definitely 115 reasons not to meet with the piss stained old nonce (allegedly)

The problem with City is we always think “if we’re nice to them then maybe they’ll start being nice to us.” It’s a bit pathetic. Proper battered Mrs stuff
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Re: Football Media

Postby zuricity » Thu Feb 15, 2024 6:56 pm

if and when we go to court . I hope Pannick brings that git from old trafford up to explain why he and the scouse2 Heinie tried to force FFP down the throats of the Premier League teams. something that is not acceptable in normal Market competition.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Mase » Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:22 pm

They’re also trying to get Wilcox -

Manchester United court Southampton director of football Jason Wilcox

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/15/manchester-united-ineos-southampton-jason-wilcox

All a bit embarrassing
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Re: Football Media

Postby zuricity » Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:25 pm

Mase wrote:They’re also trying to get Wilcox -

Manchester United court Southampton director of football Jason Wilcox

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/15/manchester-united-ineos-southampton-jason-wilcox

All a bit embarrassing


So , if i read it correctly Man U will become a sell-on Club ?
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Re: Football Media

Postby Mase » Thu Feb 15, 2024 7:30 pm

zuricity wrote:
Mase wrote:They’re also trying to get Wilcox -

Manchester United court Southampton director of football Jason Wilcox

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/15/manchester-united-ineos-southampton-jason-wilcox

All a bit embarrassing


So , if i read it correctly Man U will become a sell-on Club ?


We’ve got a class midfielder from Yorkshire that’s on loan currently that they might be interested in
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Re: Football Media

Postby Mase » Thu Feb 15, 2024 8:06 pm

Mase wrote:

Very weird of the Chairman if that’s true. Very very weird.




Khaldoon sounds like a wet wipe from these.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Bluemoon4610 » Thu Feb 15, 2024 9:34 pm

Mase wrote:
Mase wrote:

Very weird of the Chairman if that’s true. Very very weird.




Khaldoon sounds like a wet wipe from these.

I'm pinning my hopes on him being a smiling assassin :evil:
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Re: Football Media

Postby CTID Hants » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:14 pm

Bluemoon4610 wrote:
Mase wrote:
Mase wrote:

Very weird of the Chairman if that’s true. Very very weird.




Khaldoon sounds like a wet wipe from these.

I'm pinning my hopes on him being a smiling assassin :evil:


Khaldoon is just playing the game imo, you don't get to where he is being a wet wipe......

I've decided that whoever is behind cityXtra they just crave click bait attention, sadly his 'stories' will be regurgitated by more credible sources and then it'll get mentioned on talkshite as being fact 'it's been reported' without naming the source.

They were talking this AM that the bloke from Newcastle had all but accepted an appointment at the rags. I then read on the beeb they have approached him, NOT he's engaged and going....
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Re: Football Media

Postby Nick » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:28 pm

Can't see being true at all - I get that we have been soft with pundits in the open, but I also don't believe that Arabs are in any way wet wipes in business...
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Re: Football Media

Postby Mase » Thu Feb 15, 2024 10:40 pm

Nick wrote:Can't see being true at all - I get that we have been soft with pundits in the open, but I also don't believe that Arabs are in any way wet wipes in business...


I don’t think anyone has said they are “wet wipes in business” but I also wouldn’t just generalise Arabs as a whole personally, especially in business.

I’m sure the tweets are disingenuous, which is my point that they’re are making out he’s getting fanny flutters off texts from Jim.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Original Dub » Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:42 am

Ratboy's true colours shine with propaganda to feed the masses. Shot down by Keane immediately, funny enough.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -much.html
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Re: Football Media

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Fri Feb 16, 2024 11:58 am

Original Dub wrote:Ratboy's true colours shine with propaganda to feed the masses. Shot down by Keane immediately, funny enough.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/footb ... -much.html


Think they got this wrong in the Mail :

Their latest victory came on Tuesday night when they beat RB Leipzig 3-1 in the Champions League to take control of their last-16 tie, but Neville has revealed he couldn't bring himself to watch the game. :oops:
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Re: Football Media

Postby john68 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:00 pm

zuricity wrote:I find it wierd that three clubs can vote for or against something that they will not be part of next season and may never be involved in again . Also wierd that three other teams will be promoted into a set of rules that may constrain them and they never had a chance to vote for or against.

I don't understand why the Premier League is any different from being the First Division under a new name and under the general rules of the FA , of whicn many, many clubs are part of, not just the four top professional leagues.


When the Premier League was set up it became a private business divorced from any regulator.
The Prem Lge PLC approached the FA and asked them if they would become the regulating body, to which the FA agreed.
As it stands, it is my belief that the Prem could withdraw from that agreement should they wish to.

I take your point about the issue of promoted/relegated clubs but each current Prem Lge club is a shareholder in the Prem Lge PLC and therefore has the same voting rights of any other member club.

The Championship and Lgs 1 & 2 are members of and are regulated by ther Football League, a seperate company entirely that the Prem broke away from at its founding.
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Re: Football Media

Postby john68 » Fri Feb 16, 2024 1:18 pm

Another point worth mentioning is that football at this level no longer exists. Football lost thre battle between the sport faction and the purely financial faction many years ago.
Football is no longer a sport, it is wholly and entirely a business run by financiers for the benefit of financiers who's sole aim is to maximise profits. Football is just the vehicle being used by them.

What we are seeing and City are a part of; is a battle between major financial interests mostly, who had and are grouped together trying their dammedest to stop another non cartel financial interest becoming too powerful it inhibits the cartel members' interests.

A bit like Tesco, Asda & Morrisons grouping together to stop any further rise of Alsi or Lidle.

As it stands, City are the biggest threat to that cartel and therefore must be stopped domestically and globally. City have become too rich, too powerful an far too successful and the game at all levels is in danger of becoming uncompetitive and the cartel have to stop that at all costs.

I was told many years ago by a very successful businessman that I to stop thinking like a football fan and that thinking like a businessman would help me make sense of it. I did and it did
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Re: Football Media

Postby Nickyboy » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:34 pm

Mase wrote:They’re also trying to get Wilcox -

Manchester United court Southampton director of football Jason Wilcox

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2024/feb/15/manchester-united-ineos-southampton-jason-wilcox

All a bit embarrassing


Wilcox spent almost a decade at City and is credited with progressing the careers of Phil Foden, Rico Lewis and Cole Palmer, among others.

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Re: Football Media

Postby Mase » Fri Feb 16, 2024 4:40 pm

Just done the stadium tour. The guy said every player HAS to answer one question minimum from the press after the game. Even if it’s just “how are you?” If the press report too many players aren’t stopping to answer questions we get fined.

Very weird noncy power trip behaviour
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Re: Football Media

Postby ruralblue » Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:12 pm

john68 wrote:Another point worth mentioning is that football at this level no longer exists. Football lost thre battle between the sport faction and the purely financial faction many years ago.
Football is no longer a sport, it is wholly and entirely a business run by financiers for the benefit of financiers who's sole aim is to maximise profits. Football is just the vehicle being used by them.

What we are seeing and City are a part of; is a battle between major financial interests mostly, who had and are grouped together trying their dammedest to stop another non cartel financial interest becoming too powerful it inhibits the cartel members' interests.

A bit like Tesco, Asda & Morrisons grouping together to stop any further rise of Alsi or Lidle.

As it stands, City are the biggest threat to that cartel and therefore must be stopped domestically and globally. City have become too rich, too powerful an far too successful and the game at all levels is in danger of becoming uncompetitive and the cartel have to stop that at all costs.

I was told many years ago by a very successful businessman that I to stop thinking like a football fan and that thinking like a businessman would help me make sense of it. I did and it did


Being a simpleton John, I always look at City rise and the big guns discontent towards it in a simple way. You win the lottery and have always framed if opening up a clothes shop on the High Street. There are a few big names clothes shops on said street so you heavily invest in yours to make it stand out and look the best, make it the most attractive to custom. You lose money in the shirt term due to level of investment but given time you reap the rewards. The other shops are jealous as fuck but there's fuck all they can do about it. Bit like your Supermarkets. Only in football the top cats can force rule changes to suit their ow agenda.
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Re: Football Media

Postby zuricity » Fri Feb 16, 2024 8:50 pm

john68 wrote:
zuricity wrote:I find it wierd that three clubs can vote for or against something that they will not be part of next season and may never be involved in again . Also wierd that three other teams will be promoted into a set of rules that may constrain them and they never had a chance to vote for or against.

I don't understand why the Premier League is any different from being the First Division under a new name and under the general rules of the FA , of whicn many, many clubs are part of, not just the four top professional leagues.


When the Premier League was set up it became a private business divorced from any regulator.
The Prem Lge PLC approached the FA and asked them if they would become the regulating body, to which the FA agreed.
As it stands, it is my belief that the Prem could withdraw from that agreement should they wish to.

I take your point about the issue of promoted/relegated clubs but each current Prem Lge club is a shareholder in the Prem Lge PLC and therefore has the same voting rights of any other member club.

The Championship and Lgs 1 & 2 are members of and are regulated by ther Football League, a seperate company entirely that the Prem broke away from at its founding.


Still silly that things like FFP can be implemented at the PL level. It's like in the Holy Grail from Python when Micheal Palin as a poor man says "well i didn't vote for you" - " Some Aquatic Ceremony" etc etc. It could be that after seven years the 20 teams that voted for something are no longer involved in it. Wacky that it has been allowed. Bring back the First Division.
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Re: Football Media

Postby patrickblue » Fri Feb 16, 2024 10:16 pm

ruralblue wrote:
john68 wrote:Another point worth mentioning is that football at this level no longer exists. Football lost thre battle between the sport faction and the purely financial faction many years ago.
Football is no longer a sport, it is wholly and entirely a business run by financiers for the benefit of financiers who's sole aim is to maximise profits. Football is just the vehicle being used by them.

What we are seeing and City are a part of; is a battle between major financial interests mostly, who had and are grouped together trying their dammedest to stop another non cartel financial interest becoming too powerful it inhibits the cartel members' interests.

A bit like Tesco, Asda & Morrisons grouping together to stop any further rise of Alsi or Lidle.

As it stands, City are the biggest threat to that cartel and therefore must be stopped domestically and globally. City have become too rich, too powerful an far too successful and the game at all levels is in danger of becoming uncompetitive and the cartel have to stop that at all costs.

I was told many years ago by a very successful businessman that I to stop thinking like a football fan and that thinking like a businessman would help me make sense of it. I did and it did



Being a simpleton John, I always look at City rise and the big guns discontent towards it in a simple way. You win the lottery and have always framed if opening up a clothes shop on the High Street. There are a few big names clothes shops on said street so you heavily invest in yours to make it stand out and look the best, make it the most attractive to custom. You lose money in the shirt term due to level of investment but given time you reap the rewards. The other shops are jealous as fuck but there's fuck all they can do about it. Bit like your Supermarkets. Only in football the top cats can force rule changes to suit their ow agenda.


Indeed, supermarkets are an analogy I always used when discussing FFP. It's basically the same as someone starting a supermarket chain, and trying to compete with Tesco and Asda etc, but not being allowed to invest to grow it. So they can never compete because they can't buy in the quantities to attract the discounts the big boys enjoy.
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