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Re: Isco

Postby Spurge » Sat Jul 26, 2014 4:40 pm

If Pellers wants him then I'd trust his judgement. From what I heard he had a disappointing season at Real and I'm not sure I'd want to see any of the existing squad make way for him, but like I said if Pellers wants him then fair enough.
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Re: Isco

Postby PrezIke » Sat Jul 26, 2014 10:31 pm

of course i'd love to get him, but i can't see him wanting to join us as one would assume if he moves he would want to be in the first team.

who are we going to send to the bench?

i can't see any of our attacking oriented players accepting that.

liverpool would make more sense to replace suarez, but i certainly hope he does not go there, on loan or otherwise.
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Re: Isco

Postby Slim » Sun Jul 27, 2014 1:25 am

Who sits down for him though? We are getting the best out of our 3 creative players and they are almost telepathic with each other now. Navas seems okay with his utility role so no point upsetting that apple cart. Milner maybe? But that would limit Isco's playing time, which would be the exact reason he'd want out of Madrid.

Edit:or pretty much what the post above mine says.
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Re: Isco

Postby Green & Blue » Sun Jul 27, 2014 2:08 am

One of the most impressive young players I have watched in recent years.I agree that he's not just going to walk into the team but I do believe he's good enough to play himself into the team.If he's available I hope he comes to city.
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Re: Isco

Postby john@staustell » Sun Jul 27, 2014 6:43 am

Shame we missed him last year. Just checked Google.es news. Nothing new and what there is, is all speculation, IE:

"Rodriguez has been signed so Isco must be unhappy", sort of thing. Like we get with our players.
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Re: Isco

Postby Slim » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:26 am

john@staustell wrote:Shame we missed him last year. Just checked Google.es news. Nothing new and what there is, is all speculation, IE:

"Rodriguez has been signed so Isco must be unhappy", sort of thing. Like we get with our players.


Didn't you notice how upset Dzeko was about us signing Negredo?

Kept kicking the ball in the net out of anger.
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Re: Isco

Postby ant london » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:28 am

john@staustell wrote:Shame we missed him last year. Just checked Google.es news. Nothing new and what there is, is all speculation, IE:

"Rodriguez has been signed so Isco must be unhappy", sort of thing. Like we get with our players.




there is a quote from his agent in the ooh aaah daily star....(I know, I know....it's no Cheshire Today but....)

And the signs are clear that the City boss could make a move this week with Isco’s agent Francois Gallardo giving a mysterious clue to his future.

Gallardo said: “There is a player at Real Madrid who arrived last summer and the next season will leave again.

“I don’t know whether he is to be loaned or sold. But it’s Isco.”
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Re: Isco

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:43 am

Can he play up top or is he more of a playmaker?
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Re: Isco

Postby Slim » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:46 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:Can he play up top or is he more of a playmaker?


He floats across the line like Nasri and Silva do, but more likely to drive past a defender and shoot than split a defence with a pass like Silva.

Also, tricks like you wouldn't believe, like Johnson on speed before Mancini beat that out of him.
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Re: Isco

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:16 am

A loan move for Isco & Falcao would strengthen the squad nicely without causing any breaches in the cartel sanctions.

Sell a few players over the transfer window(s) into next season and we would have enough money to make both deals permanent, especially if we sneakily included part of the fees in the loan agreements.

One source confidently predicted that City have no interest in Isco though, as if they had received a decent tip off from the club.
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Re: Isco

Postby dick dastardley » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:26 am

its a no brainer if hes available and we can afford him get him, adding quality to the squad we already have is a priority, offload the deadwood and get isco in
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Re: Isco

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Jul 27, 2014 9:33 am

dick dastardley wrote:its a no brainer if hes available and we can afford him get him, adding quality to the squad we already have is a priority, offload the deadwood and get isco in


It wouldn't just be 'deadwood' as such though, it would be Garcia or Negredo due to the squad restrictions. Balance would have to be considered but it would still end up worth doing I should imagine.
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Re: Isco

Postby PrezIke » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:15 pm

Slim wrote:Who sits down for him though? We are getting the best out of our 3 creative players and they are almost telepathic with each other now. Navas seems okay with his utility role so no point upsetting that apple cart. Milner maybe? But that would limit Isco's playing time, which would be the exact reason he'd want out of Madrid.

Edit:or pretty much what the post above mine says.


cheers.

i think we were in for isco last close season because we either would have looked to perhaps sell nasri after his poor performance the season prior, or make him more of a substitute/create competition to determine who to keep.

of course, that did not occur and nasri responded to pellegrini by having a fairly fantastic year for us. hard to see him out of the first eleven unless we are getting someone drastically better, which i am not so sure isco is, although he does have more potential to be given his age. adding anyone to compete with nasri now would surely upset him as he just signed a 5 year deal. his doing so however could put us in a stronger position to sell, but i am gathering his wages are quite high. psg would seem most likely if we ever sell him, one would think.
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Re: Isco

Postby PrezIke » Sun Jul 27, 2014 4:23 pm

Slim wrote:
john@staustell wrote:Shame we missed him last year. Just checked Google.es news. Nothing new and what there is, is all speculation, IE:

"Rodriguez has been signed so Isco must be unhappy", sort of thing. Like we get with our players.


Didn't you notice how upset Dzeko was about us signing Negredo?

Kept kicking the ball in the net out of anger.


some players react differently to competition, no?

seems dzeko was able to handle it, and he was given his chance to start. he did not begin so well, then negredo came on. negredo's form bottomed out and was dropped for dzeko.

it can be one of those good problems, but some players need to feel "loved."

on our team, nasri strikes me as someone who needs to feel he is important. pellegrini did well with that but it would have been very interesting if we had signed isco to see how that played out.

i think we'd love to have him, but i think we'd have to sell a striker and one other player.

i think we went in for jovetic instead after we missed on isco. that was not exactly the worst backup plan, especially if jovetic can stay fit.
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Re: Isco

Postby Slim » Sun Jul 27, 2014 8:22 pm

PrezIke wrote:
Slim wrote:Who sits down for him though? We are getting the best out of our 3 creative players and they are almost telepathic with each other now. Navas seems okay with his utility role so no point upsetting that apple cart. Milner maybe? But that would limit Isco's playing time, which would be the exact reason he'd want out of Madrid.

Edit:or pretty much what the post above mine says.


cheers.

i think we were in for isco last close season because we either would have looked to perhaps sell nasri after his poor performance the season prior, or make him more of a substitute/create competition to determine who to keep.

of course, that did not occur and nasri responded to pellegrini by having a fairly fantastic year for us. hard to see him out of the first eleven unless we are getting someone drastically better, which i am not so sure isco is, although he does have more potential to be given his age. adding anyone to compete with nasri now would surely upset him as he just signed a 5 year deal. his doing so however could put us in a stronger position to sell, but i am gathering his wages are quite high. psg would seem most likely if we ever sell him, one would think.


I believe he took a £20k/week pay cut but it's all done on a bonus system now, no doubt his retirement present will be a gold maserati from the UAE royal family.
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Re: Isco

Postby Mikhail Chigorin » Mon Jul 28, 2014 1:17 am

Slim wrote:
PrezIke wrote:
Slim wrote:Who sits down for him though? We are getting the best out of our 3 creative players and they are almost telepathic with each other now. Navas seems okay with his utility role so no point upsetting that apple cart. Milner maybe? But that would limit Isco's playing time, which would be the exact reason he'd want out of Madrid.

Edit:or pretty much what the post above mine says.


cheers.

i think we were in for isco last close season because we either would have looked to perhaps sell nasri after his poor performance the season prior, or make him more of a substitute/create competition to determine who to keep.

of course, that did not occur and nasri responded to pellegrini by having a fairly fantastic year for us. hard to see him out of the first eleven unless we are getting someone drastically better, which i am not so sure isco is, although he does have more potential to be given his age. adding anyone to compete with nasri now would surely upset him as he just signed a 5 year deal. his doing so however could put us in a stronger position to sell, but i am gathering his wages are quite high. psg would seem most likely if we ever sell him, one would think.


I believe he took a £20k/week pay cut but it's all done on a bonus system now, no doubt his retirement present will be a gold maserati from the UAE royal family.


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