Monday's B*l**x (updated)

[Swales4ever]

I tend to go straight for the bollox when I first log on

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Everyone tends.

[highlight]Fucl it, I've spent an age on it but here are two more earlier threads ...[/highlight]
MCF.net THREAD A (Its Going To Get Ugly...)
: http://www.mancityfans.net/mcfnet/viewt ... 19&t=44979
MCF.net THREAD B (Ganging up now, eh?)
: http://www.mancityfans.net/mcfnet/viewt ... 19&t=44980

Ain't bollox if it's not on THE BOLLOX by Chinners (TM)
it goes w/o saying. as well as this is NOT BM and we fell no need for threads starting contests.

Plenty of stocks to laugh on on today issue, Sir.
but I reckon, Sir John would have noted that date of issue of the Arse's Statement of Desperation and the fact that - the already taken for granted - 14 votes seems to be not so certain.
Sadly, mcfc1632, won't apply, as he seems to have foed me, due to my tendency to laugh at at laughble issue... :-)
On subject matter, may I just remind to all the English FFP scared geezers, that we NOW have a sporting direct and a CEO, both featuring professional top experience? It may help to shred a little darkness from the mind of those who are seeking for evidence on what a professional sporting director must be able to do at a leading company, as opposite to what an amateur wasn't able to.

Also, can't fail to be amused at the not 99%, 100% certainty.... priceless.

[john68]

Mancio,
Either add something positive to this debate or shut the fuck up.
This stuff has been going on for the last 20 years. That is not my opinion, it is FACT...non refutable and checkable FACT. It has happened and is happening at this moment.
I apologise for being terse Mate, it is honestly not personal but for an intelligent person to be so stupid on this matter is beyond ridiculous. We have been over this many times but you constantly put your head deeper into the sand like a child with your fingers in your ears screaming Llalalalalalalala.

The FFPR is not happening in the future, in fact even if it fails miserably over the next few years, IT HAS ALREADY AFFECTED OUR CLUBS BUYING POLICY, IT IS CURRENTLY AFFECTING OUR CLUB'S BUYING POLICY AT THIS MOMENT. IT WAS REAL2 YEARS AGO, IT IS REAL NOW.....even if it fails in the future.

Sort your alarm clock out and wake fucking up.

Why did City change their targets for Hughes?
Why did they speed up the player buying policy?
Why was Hughes sacked for not meeting the changed targets.
Why did we not pursue Mancini's stated targets last season.
Why did we not pursue Mancini's stated targets this season?
Why did we allow our nearest rivals (the rags and chelsea) to strengthen without responding?
Why have we not acted to strengthen our squad this window, despite being 7pts adrift?
Why do you not take any notice of public statements made but our old CEO Cooke?
Why do you choose to ignore public statement made by Kaldhoon?

What do you know that our owners and highly paid officers, administrators, lawyers and representatives don't know and if you know it, why aren't you telling us. Or is your mouth choc full of sand?

Cummom mate...get fuckin real.
My apologies for being terse.

[Chinners]

this 'terse' stuff is good imo

[Swales4ever]

WTF!!!

I have spent an hour to write down a reply adequate to Sir John's rank and the server bottles my shaky efforts this bloody big???



John,
If You are genuinely interested to understand who's the most naive among us, on subject matter, I'll ring You one of those nights... :-)
I won't be arsed to spend another one in dropping it again in a half decent english!

I'm sorry for the rest of folks: it was probably my very gem... :-) but it'll remain unedited unlesss a miracle may come from the server logs.
Shit!

[john68]

Mancio,
Do you really honestly think that these twats who have almost got a grip on FIFA and control of football's global billions give tewo fucks about little Citeh?Do you honestly think that Sheik Mansour handing out lollipops for the old G14 to suck on will impress them? Do you imagine that a few oil stained Arab dollars will impress them enough to make them shove up and make room for us at the trough?

You severely overestimate our owners power on the stage mate...and you think me naive. God fuclin help us.

[Swales4ever]

Mancio,
Do you really honestly think that these twats who have almost got a grip on FIFA and control of football's global billions give tewo fucks about little Citeh?Do you honestly think that Sheik Mansour handing out lollipops for the old G14 to suck on will impress them? Do you imagine that a few oil stained Arab dollars will impress them enough to make them shove up and make room for us at the trough?

You severely overestimate our owners power on the stage mate...and you think me naive. God fuclin help us.

No need to disturb such an Upper Instance, my Lord, as I won't ever be anywhere near the Club gear: time of amateurship is definitely ended on semptember 2012, so just relax, Dad... :-)

Then, try and reverse Your perspective vision, City have just given themselves the "limited" mission to establish a New Dominant Force in the Football World, not to bring the Light of Socialism to the Whole of It.
What the G14 Twats, Platini, Maometto, Baroness Margaret Hilda Thatcher, The Roman Pope think, want, aim are just irrelevant: NO INSTITUTION has never succeed to stop a perfectly devised, redundantly financially backed, professionally administrated Business Plan, never, ever in the whole history of Economics.

And I cannot waste another hour to allege again a reasoned reply as that fuck up by the server tonight (as the Lord would deserve) but, in a nutshell, in spite of whatsoever public statement released for institutional purposes in the last 4 1/2 years, only 2 factors have moderately influenced the MCFC market:

1) from August 2008 to September 2012, money invested on Business Plan thereby have been operatively handled by an Absolute Beginner, overlooked since a certain time by a non Fottballing, Marketing Expert, CEO;
2) Roberto Mancini's deficit of Cool (ouch, the Latin weakness!) in jumping the gun on CL success, typically summoned in what You, Ted and myself have widely censored late last summer.

Notwithstanding the above, which we both would agree as natural weaknesses from a Club who hase gone so far places in such an accelerated time, MCFC already enjoy one amongst the five most powerful rosters in the whole football world. And we both understand that, should the current CEO and Sporting Director been (ideally ) in charge since August 2008, the same market investments would have resulted in something already fit to overshadow Barcelona F.C., if You exclude Lionel Messi from the equation, cause there is no clone of the Gods of Football, who get birth, roughly every two generations (Pelè.... Maradona..... Messi)
So that, where's and what's all those influences on MCFC market investments?



Still..... You shall never realize how much, receiving my first Sir John's rant (solely a little smothed with some polite honey-vaseline to be perfect) have flattered my Ego and my desire to feel an established member of the Community.... :-)

[john68]

My apologies Mancio...but I never understood a word of that Mate. I suspect others are in the same boat too.

TBH, I give upon this Mate. there are limits to the brick walls that even I have the patience for. It's like dipping my head in blancmange and trying to blow bubbles.
Like governments, you will eventually get the governance of football that you deserve. I often wondered how/why the likes of Berlosconi kept managing to bounce back to power in Italy and why they hadn't thrown him out many years ago. Now I know. "Eeet has not 'appened, eet eez not appening and eet weeell not appen". Do you lot learn nothing from the stereotype of Nero.

Right children, fingers in ears....all together....."Lalalalalalalalalalalalalala".
Amen.

[Swales4ever]

My apologies Mancio...but I never understood a word of that Mate. I suspect others are in the same boat too.

TBH, I give upon this Mate. there are limits to the brick walls that even I have the patience for. It's like dipping my head in blancmange and trying to blow bubbles.
Like governments, you will eventually get the governance of football that you deserve. [highlight]I often wondered how/why the likes of Berlosconi kept managing to bounce back to power in Italy and why they hadn't thrown him out many years ago. Now I know. "Eeet has not 'appened, eet eez not appening and eet weeell not appen".[/highlight] Do you lot learn nothing from the stereotype of Nero.

Right children, fingers in ears....all together....."Lalalalalalalalalalalalalala".
Amen.

I don't even remotely think that You're making anything else than taking the piss on me, there.... but in case.... You are a Twat!
[right inference, WRONG subject, absolutely, You cunt.[

Yadda... yadda Mate... You know I love Ya, and I let You have the prime stretch of the ligature, when I'll be hung at Albert sq. for having lost my famous bet on the "scary FFP".... You did not get a word, eh?

[Chinners]

You two need to get a room ...

[Tokyo Blue]

What happened to Tuesday's "Bollox"?

[Swales4ever]

You two need to get a room ...

why... can't I take a piss out of my Lord? Get off, envious lad... and get the bollox sorted, it's late and we are greedy.... :-)

[Chinners]

What happened to Tuesday's "Bollox"?

Er ... um .... I overslept if you want the honest truth

[Tokyo Blue]

What happened to Tuesday's "Bollox"?

Er ... um .... I overslept if you want the honest truth

I was just wondering. Fair dos to you, mate. Your Bollox are much desired around these parts and very much missed when they are not on show.

An honest politician. I'd certainly vote for you.

[Swales4ever]

What happened to Tuesday's "Bollox"?

Er ... um .... I overslept if you want the honest truth

I was just wondering. Fair dos to you, mate. Your Bollox are much desired around these parts and very much missed when they are not on show.

An honest politician. I'd certainly vote for you.

hang on. I was already on the cue, to bring him and replace the Italian Right's populist proposal... :-)
papers to double his Citehzenship are on the going....

[john68]

You bet your sweet life I'm taking the piss mate....when rational argument fails, it's the only route left...:-)...and yes, I am a twat and absolutely guilty as charged....:-)...and furthermore, it will not be a ligature Mate...it will be a long length of spaghetti, suitably plaited for extra strength and knotted by my own fair hand...the personal touch guaranteed.....:-)

Now then get yer head round this yer great daft twallop...(a new English word for you to use).
Put whatever may or may not happen to one side for a moment. That is the future and none of us can tell that. The future is largely irrelevant in this debate for the moment anyway.

I warn you that this is the last time we go through this. I will write it slowly, cos I know you can't read fast...:-)
1...The FFPR is only a tiny (very tiny) part of the old G14's campaign to gain control of football's billions.
2...The FFPR is only a defensive tool being used to try and stop newly monied clubs (City) from diluting the gains the G14 elite have already made over the last 20 years.
3...There are other tools at the G14's disposal, already set up in place. The seeding for the CL, the European Coefficients (over 5 years) and the European Clubs Association.
4...The implicit threat to break away still remains and with that threat, the further threat to take with them the lucrative TV and sponsorship deals.
5...They already control UeFA by their representation on the policy committees that dictate UeFA policy and their representation on FIFA committees makes them powerful in that sphere too.
6...Their actions have ALREADY destroyed any real competitive threat from any country from outside the big 4.
7...Whatever happens with the FFPR in the future does NOT change the damage the threat of its implementation has ALREADY caused and IS causing to City and other clubs outside the old G14 group.

That should be simple enough for you to understand.

[john68]

Part 2...

1...Whether the G14 elite and their FFPR are ultimately successful in the future is almost irrelevant at this time. They/it has already been successful for them, just by the mere threat of its possible implementation. This gets no coverage (why?)..
2...Because of the uncertainty (then) of how the FFPR may be implemented, City and most other clubs chose a policy of attempting to comply, thus causing conditions damaging to those clubs and favourable to the old Elite G14.
3...City completely revised its player policy.
4...City completely revised its football targets.
5...The speeded to up player investment meant that City increased pressure on City to pay highe fees and higher wages to bring targets in.
5...The speeded up player investment meant that money already spent then is NOT being spent now and though our nearest rivals strengthened during the summer, we have not. Instead of taking the opportunity to push clear of our nearest rivals. we now see a period of temporary stagnation.
5...The speeded up investment caused our expenditure to exceed our income by far more than was originally planned. Our policy to comply with the FFPR and our need to better balance our books has meant a slowing of player investment.

I could go further about how our attempts to comply with the FFPR and the consequent speeding up of investment at City has created enemies both in football and in the media. How the incessant, almost daily attacks on Moneybags City, our mercenary players, on how we are greedy, ruining football and buying success , have caused our name and brand not only to be damaged but hated in some quarters....All this can be directly attributed to the MERE THREAT OF THE FFPR.

PLEASE DON'T TELL ME THAT THE FFPR WILL FAIL...IT HAS ALREADY BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS FOR THEM AND STILL IS.

[Swales4ever]

Mate, City have even took the luxury to thrash about T_H_I_R_T_Y M_I_L_L_I_O_N_S of Great Britain's Pounds on a buch of players that have no hope to add an inch on what City already had... just to praise a respected manager's success greediness and try and cover a tad of the Incompentence of the shoes seller.
I am sorry, my Lord, but I fail to see any restriction there!

Should it had been needed:
a) half a dozen of sporsorships, coming from Companies not directly linkable with ADUG or The Royal Crown, could have easily put in place, thanks to countless Companies in the will to please their established relationships with ADUG;
b) MCFC First Team payroll, could have easily halved on the books, as Carl has mentioned on the other thread. IT IS COMMON PRACTICE, not only on Top professional Football. and You don't even need Your Club to be owned by the Ruling Family of a Small Hyper-Wealth Country whereas the Rulers have little obbligation to respond to the Public Opinion.

I luv Yer, my Lord.

Let's make this way: You are right, I am wrong! shall now we settle for a dish of pansotti and then move on to the pub to spare several ales?

[john68]

Cudda, wudda, shudda....but didn't.....Jeez, you can be hard work when you put you blancmange head on....:-)

Pansotti and an ale it is then.

[Swales4ever]

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