Mancini Or Hughes, Which One Would You Have

[ant london]

Fabulous post Ted

I love it when you find yourself nodding to every point made....yep....uh huh....exactly...fucking spot on. Rant-tastic and every single word chimes with me.

Take a bow Hughes (Ted)

[DoomMerchant]

jesus h christ...now it's spinning out of control the other direction. Mancini loses one match and the *supposed* lickers crawl out of the woodwork to defend their jedi master. i was convinced Hughes was on the right path for a long time, and then he seemed to lose his way and his job, fairly or unfairly -- a little of both for me, but i wasn't aggrieved with his sacking like some in this thread obv were. Mancini will be judged on the same basis i believe. if i had to choose i'd rather have Mancini now, but until we see how he forms up over the next 2 months he will face some of the same criticism Hughes faced. Fairly or unfairly.

i didn't see too many people saying positive things about Mancini's tactics in the match thread yesteday...but it's just one match.

cheers

[Kladze]

Fabulous post Ted

I love it when you find yourself nodding to every point made....yep....uh huh....exactly...fucking spot on. Rant-tastic and every single word chimes with me.

Take a bow Hughes (Ted)

Agreed. Fight over to stop further punishment ....

[carl_feedthegoat]

jesus h christ...now it's spinning out of control the other direction. Mancini loses one match and the *supposed* lickers crawl out of the woodwork to defend their jedi master. i was convinced Hughes was on the right path for a long time, and then he seemed to lose his way and his job, fairly or unfairly -- a little of both for me, but i wasn't aggrieved with his sacking like some in this thread obv were. Mancini will be judged on the same basis i believe. if i had to choose i'd rather have Mancini now, but until we see how he forms up over the next 2 months he will face some of the same criticism Hughes faced. Fairly or unfairly.

i didn't see too many people saying positive things about Mancini's tactics in the match thread yesteday...but it's just one match.

cheers

FUCKING HILARIOUS ISNT IT...........

[Original Dub]

jesus h christ...now it's spinning out of control the other direction. Mancini loses one match and the *supposed* lickers crawl out of the woodwork to defend their jedi master. i was convinced Hughes was on the right path for a long time, and then he seemed to lose his way and his job, fairly or unfairly -- a little of both for me, but i wasn't aggrieved with his sacking like some in this thread obv were. Mancini will be judged on the same basis i believe. if i had to choose i'd rather have Mancini now, but until we see how he forms up over the next 2 months he will face some of the same criticism Hughes faced. Fairly or unfairly.

i didn't see too many people saying positive things about Mancini's tactics in the match thread yesteday...but it's just one match.

cheers

FUCKING HILARIOUS ISNT IT...........

Side splitting.

[carl_feedthegoat]

TED.
I DONT REALLY LIKE TO SEE EVERYONE PAINTED WITH THE SAME BRUSH...AND YOUR POST DOES EXACTLY THAT, THERE WERE SOME GOOD POINTS THAT YOU RAISED BUT THERE WAS ALSO SOME UNNECESARY COMMENTS... "though various knowitall wanker football fucking genius types" ALSO "How it's fucking laughable reading posts from the same titheads that slagged Hughes off "....INSTEAD OF USING THE TERM "PEOPLE" OR "THEY" WHEN YOU ARE SLAGGING THEM OFF CAN YOU PLEASE MENTION THEM BY NAME AND THAT WAY THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO GUESS WHO YOUR TALKING ABOUT AND THEY CAN GO ABOUT DEFENDING THEIR STANCE?

I HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE ABOUT VEILED ATTEMPTS AT SLAGGING PEOPLE OFF WITHOUT ACTUALLY NAMING THEM.......I DONT LIKE IT AND WOULD PREFER A SPADE TO BE CALLED A SPADE.

THANKS.

[the_georgian_genius]

Neither, i wanted Graham Taylor.

[Bluez]

I suppose the fairest way to determine how they are getting on would be to compare what did each of them do with the same squad? Mancini has pretty much added nor one, nor has anyone been sold.
Made even more interesting by teh fact that Manchinis first 4 games were fairly easy and included a cup game against lower league opposition and his 5th game was the first real test.

Also Hughes first 4 games were fairly easy and included a cup game against lower league opposition and his 5th game was the first real test.

In Hughes 1st 5 games he kept 4 clean sheets and the in the stiff game against Arsenal, we hammered them (the 4-2 score line flattered them)

In Manchinis 1st 5 games he kept 3 clean sheets and in the first stiff test against a team who were 4 points off the relegation zone we got hammered, completely played off the park.

So as I am behind Manchini as he is now our manager, I guess my point is after 5 games, this is a really stupid thread. Manchini still has to prove himself in te English league.
That said full points for Ted's post, although those it was directed towards won't even realise just how hypocritical they are.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I suppose the fairest way to determine how they are getting on would be to compare what did each of them do with the same squad? Mancini has pretty much added nor one, nor has anyone been sold.
Made even more interesting by teh fact that Manchinis first 4 games were fairly easy and included a cup game against lower league opposition and his 5th game was the first real test.

Also Hughes first 4 games were fairly easy and included a cup game against lower league opposition and his 5th game was the first real test.

In Hughes 1st 5 games he kept 4 clean sheets and the in the stiff game against Arsenal, we hammered them (the 4-2 score line flattered them)

In Manchinis 1st 5 games he kept 3 clean sheets and in the first stiff test against a team who were 4 points off the relegation zone we got hammered, completely played off the park.

So as I am behind Manchini as he is now our manager, I guess my point is after 5 games, this is a really stupid thread. Manchini still has to prove himself in te English league.
That said full points for Ted's post, although those it was directed towards won't even realise just how hypocritical they are.

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE.

[Original Dub]

TED.
I DONT REALLY LIKE TO SEE EVERYONE PAINTED WITH THE SAME BRUSH...AND YOUR POST DOES EXACTLY THAT, THERE WERE SOME GOOD POINTS THAT YOU RAISED BUT THERE WAS ALSO SOME UNNECESARY COMMENTS... "though various knowitall wanker football fucking genius types" ALSO "How it's fucking laughable reading posts from the same titheads that slagged Hughes off "....INSTEAD OF USING THE TERM "PEOPLE" OR "THEY" WHEN YOU ARE SLAGGING THEM OFF CAN YOU PLEASE MENTION THEM BY NAME AND THAT WAY THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO GUESS WHO YOUR TALKING ABOUT AND THEY CAN GO ABOUT DEFENDING THEIR STANCE?

I HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE ABOUT VEILED ATTEMPTS AT SLAGGING PEOPLE OFF WITHOUT ACTUALLY NAMING THEM.......I DONT LIKE IT AND WOULD PREFER A SPADE TO BE CALLED A SPADE.

THANKS.

In fairness mate, I don't think Ted's calling slagging off everyone who wanted hughes gone or tarring them with the same brush... its fairly obvious he's pointing out the hypocrites that slagged hughes off for the very same things that they are now defending Mancini for doing.

I don't think you fall into that category in anyway. In fact, there's really only one or two that do....

You were a cunt to the last manager when you felt he deserved it and I'm (and Ted I'm sure) pretty confident you'll be a cunt to this one for the very same reasons if the situations occur again.

That wouldn't make you a hypocrite mate.

[ant london]

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE.

Mate, if the rest of us are perfectly aware (/have a pretty bloody good idea) of the people referred to in Ted's post I'm pretty sure it's not beyond you to put 2 and 2 together?

[carl_feedthegoat]

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE.

Mate, if the rest of us are perfectly aware (/have a pretty bloody good idea) of the people referred to in Ted's post I'm pretty sure it's not beyond you to put 2 and 2 together?

WE HAVE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE ANT AND MY STANCE STILL STANDS..........I JUST PREFER WHEN HAVING A DIG AT FANS IT,S PERFECTLY REASONABLE TO POINT THEM OUT BY NAME.

[ant london]

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE.

Mate, if the rest of us are perfectly aware (/have a pretty bloody good idea) of the people referred to in Ted's post I'm pretty sure it's not beyond you to put 2 and 2 together?

WE HAVE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE ANT AND MY STANCE STILL STANDS..........I JUST PREFER WHEN HAVING A DIG AT FANS IT,S PERFECTLY REASONABLE TO POINT THEM OUT BY NAME.

Yeah I know you like it like that mate. I'm sure that Ted will be more than happy to oblige.

Don't personally think it makes any odds when it's so obvious but I'm happy to adhere to your naming and shaming approach as evidenced earlier

[DoomMerchant]

WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE.

Mate, if the rest of us are perfectly aware (/have a pretty bloody good idea) of the people referred to in Ted's post I'm pretty sure it's not beyond you to put 2 and 2 together?

WE HAVE BEEN DOWN THIS ROAD BEFORE ANT AND MY STANCE STILL STANDS..........I JUST PREFER WHEN HAVING A DIG AT FANS IT,S PERFECTLY REASONABLE TO POINT THEM OUT BY NAME.

Yeah I know you like it like that mate. I'm sure that Ted will be more than happy to oblige.

Don't personally think it makes any odds when it's so obvious but I'm happy to adhere to your naming and shaming approach as evidenced earlier

i'd prefer someone name and shame me...im feeling lonely.

cheers

[The Man In Blue]

DoomMerchant is a total cunt.


hows that? brevity i know, but i'm sure i could embellish with some slander and questioning of your sexual preference if you like.

[ENIAM NAM]

DoomMerchant is a total cunt.


hows that? brevity i know, but i'm sure i could embellish with some slander and questioning of your sexual preference if you like.

After hearing that Jonathan Ross was leaving the BBC, I did wonder what DM and his 3 mates were going to do with their piano!!

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

jesus h christ...now it's spinning out of control the other direction. Mancini loses one match and the *supposed* lickers crawl out of the woodwork to defend their jedi master. i was convinced Hughes was on the right path for a long time, and then he seemed to lose his way and his job, fairly or unfairly -- a little of both for me, but i wasn't aggrieved with his sacking like some in this thread obv were. Mancini will be judged on the same basis i believe. if i had to choose i'd rather have Mancini now, but until we see how he forms up over the next 2 months he will face some of the same criticism Hughes faced. Fairly or unfairly.

i didn't see too many people saying positive things about Mancini's tactics in the match thread yesteday...but it's just one match.

cheers

spot on. Best post of this thread. Lock the topic. All has been said. Amen.

[mcfc1632]

I voted for Hughes, not because I know he's better than Mancini (that's impossible to know even though various knowitall wanker football fucking genius types can tell me for sure that Mancini's better) but because I was perfectly happy with how he was building the team, thought most of his signings were excellent, his work behind the scenes was excellent & we played all out attacking football that most of the two faced twats on here were begging for (until it happened & then it became 'tactically naive')


Now it's fucking laughable reading posts from the same titheads that slagged Hughes off rationalising how it's perfectly acceptable to play Benjani instead of Robinho, signing a 33 year old injury prone defensive midfield player is a good move, Playing Petrov on the right (something Hughes was called a cluelass cunt for doing for 10 minutes) is ok & to top it all TO FUCKING TOP IT ALL...THE PEOPLE WHO SAID HUGHES COULDN'T GET THE BEST OUT OF ROBINHO ARE NOW TURNING ON ROBINHO BECAUSE HE'S BEEN EVEN FUCKING WORSE UNDER MANCINI!!!! I have no problem with any of the things Mancini has done but lots of people on here would be going fucking spare if Hughes had done the same.

People who slaughtered Hughes for playing Ched Evans & Caicedo claiming Mancini's somehow better at giving young players a chance for playing a couple of kids in the FA Cup when we had 10 fucking players missing!! Now he's talking about loaning out Weiss, NOT A FUCKING MURMOUR! I have no problem with his actions there but you fuckers should.

Hughes has gone, don't care anymore, I'm now 100% behind Mancini & think/ hope he can continue & improve on the great work Hughes did, perhaps spot some things Hughes didn't but make no mistake, Hughes sacking is, apart from Ranieri's, probably the most unfair, ever in the history of football in this country. Let's hope Mancini can add a couple of players & have the success that Mourinho did with Ranieri's team. Onwards & upwards & I'll stand side by side with you hypocritical cunts.

now that is a quality post!

Ditto - needed saying and said well - all this started because one of the prime antagonists could not resist displaying what a total hypocrite he is - not necessary - we all knew!! - legend on Mancityfans.net - and in his own mind methinks

[BobKowalski]

I suppose the fairest way to determine how they are getting on would be to compare what did each of them do with the same squad? Mancini has pretty much added nor one, nor has anyone been sold.
Made even more interesting by teh fact that Manchinis first 4 games were fairly easy and included a cup game against lower league opposition and his 5th game was the first real test.

Also Hughes first 4 games were fairly easy and included a cup game against lower league opposition and his 5th game was the first real test.

In Hughes 1st 5 games he kept 4 clean sheets and the in the stiff game against Arsenal, we hammered them (the 4-2 score line flattered them)

In Mancini's 1st 5 games he kept 3 clean sheets and in the first stiff test against a team who were 4 points off the relegation zone we got hammered, completely played off the park.

So as I am behind Manchini as he is now our manager, I guess my point is after 5 games, this is a really stupid thread. Manchini still has to prove himself in te English league.
That said full points for Ted's post, although those it was directed towards won't even realise just how hypocritical they are.

Except it isn't. Comparable that is. Hughes first 5 games were after a full pre season and a previous 12 months at the club. He had a fully fit squad of players to choose from (bar RSC) all fired up and ready to go with some players making their debuts and obviously keen to make an impression.

Mancini was parachuted in mid-season and had to hit the ground running with players missing either through injury or playing in ACoN. Not to mention he was holding training sessions with an unknown group of players in the snow and ice of the big freeze and with a squad of players that had conceded 3 goals a game in their last 3 games with games coming up that we were expected to win and win well. So no it isn't comparable. In fact I will use the 'Hughes gambit' and say that we can only judge Mancini and Hughes when Mancini has a full squad to chose from (bar RSC) and/or has had a full season and/or has got his own players which ever is the quicker.

But yes this thread is laughable - I mean 9 of you idiots voted for Hughes and yes Mancini has only being here 5 minutes so it is way too early to judge although the fact he is not wedded to the words 'obviously' and dynamic' makes him immediately preferable to Hughes - that and Hughes inability to manage a football team. Obviously.

I do detect a desire to hold some peoples feet to the flames over Mancini and come any faltering of form and it will be 'poll heaven' on here all them kicking off with the theme 'well we sacked Hughes to get top 4 so...' and yes that is true. ADUG saw the chance of getting top 4 this season and couldn't see it happening under Hughes, but then blind f**king Pew could of seen that so ADUG don't get prizes for spotting the bleeding obvious.

But top 4 arguments aside I do think we should be giving the new guy a little bit of slack when he hits a few bumps on the way. Which he will. Although god help him if we don't get to the CC final. This place and the media will be full of people insisting that if we had kept Hughes we would have got through and that Hughes was 'on the brink of cracking it' and so on. Actually give it a few months and Hughes will the greatest manager we ever had without actually achieving anything. Which if you think about it is quite an achievment :)

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

TED.
I DONT REALLY LIKE TO SEE EVERYONE PAINTED WITH THE SAME BRUSH...AND YOUR POST DOES EXACTLY THAT, THERE WERE SOME GOOD POINTS THAT YOU RAISED BUT THERE WAS ALSO SOME UNNECESARY COMMENTS... "though various knowitall wanker football fucking genius types" ALSO "How it's fucking laughable reading posts from the same titheads that slagged Hughes off "....INSTEAD OF USING THE TERM "PEOPLE" OR "THEY" WHEN YOU ARE SLAGGING THEM OFF CAN YOU PLEASE MENTION THEM BY NAME AND THAT WAY THERE WOULD BE NO NEED TO GUESS WHO YOUR TALKING ABOUT AND THEY CAN GO ABOUT DEFENDING THEIR STANCE?

I HAVE BROUGHT THIS UP BEFORE ABOUT VEILED ATTEMPTS AT SLAGGING PEOPLE OFF WITHOUT ACTUALLY NAMING THEM.......I DONT LIKE IT AND WOULD PREFER A SPADE TO BE CALLED A SPADE.

THANKS.

I agree. When you use words 'cunt' and 'twat', the least you can do is being straightforward about it and mention who you are calling 'cunt'.

That's what every man is supposed to do. It's not fucking knitting site after all.