Rags Gutted Mancini Has Gone.

[Blue Since 76]

Shall I write it for you.....Pellergrini out....Surely you've given him long enough by now.

I'm starting to head towards that opinion. He's fast becoming our Juande Ramos.

[Original Dub]

I'm starting to head towards that opinion. He's fast becoming our Juande Ramos.

Really? An opinion on wanting the manager out already?

Oh dear.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Naive and stubborn but early days yet.

Well that's the point I was trying to make.

Hazy, I already blamed the manager for not changing it, but I was quoting john and he was giving an overall picture on the manager, not just the bayern game.

It's a mish mash so far and anyone who claims we either found the messiah or we have a clown in charge is obviously the type of lad who blows a load when a lady waves.

I know mate, not sure but I think John was having a go at Piccs knee jerk nature in that post more than anything else, could be wrong though.

[Original Dub]

I know mate, not sure but I think John was having a go at Piccs knee jerk nature in that post more than anything else, could be wrong though.

He was mate, I know that but some on here already want him out.

Socrates, sweeney and Mr. 76 have already pretty much stated it. Quite a few others appear happy when we fuck up, but haven't openly admitted it.

I just think it's a bit early for all of this.

Look at where he finished with lesser teams and look at where he finished with real madrid - narrowly coming second to a team as good as the one we played the other night.

I've heard folk saying they are worried for our top four finish. That he is clueless. That he is a clown. That he should be sacked.

Have you lost your fucking minds?!

[Cocacolajojo1]

I know mate, not sure but I think John was having a go at Piccs knee jerk nature in that post more than anything else, could be wrong though.

He was mate, I know that but some on here already want him out.

Socrates, sweeney and Mr. 76 have already pretty much stated it. Quite a few others appear happy when we fuck up, but haven't openly admitted it.

I just think it's a bit early for all of this.

Look at where he finished with lesser teams and look at where he finished with real madrid - narrowly coming second to a team as good as the one we played the other night.

I've heard folk saying they are worried for our top four finish. That he is clueless. That he is a clown. That he should be sacked.

Have you lost your fucking minds?!

This very much.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

I know mate, not sure but I think John was having a go at Piccs knee jerk nature in that post more than anything else, could be wrong though.

He was mate, I know that but some on here already want him out.

Socrates, sweeney and Mr. 76 have already pretty much stated it. Quite a few others appear happy when we fuck up, but haven't openly admitted it.

I just think it's a bit early for all of this.

Look at where he finished with lesser teams and look at where he finished with real madrid - narrowly coming second to a team as good as the one we played the other night.

I've heard folk saying they are worried for our top four finish. That he is clueless. That he is a clown. That he should be sacked.

Have you lost your fucking minds?!

Yep, unfortunately fickleness and myopia are traits that are prevalent in many a football fan.

[aaron bond]

I know mate, not sure but I think John was having a go at Piccs knee jerk nature in that post more than anything else, could be wrong though.

He was mate, I know that but some on here already want him out.

Socrates, sweeney and Mr. 76 have already pretty much stated it. Quite a few others appear happy when we fuck up, but haven't openly admitted it.

I just think it's a bit early for all of this.

Look at where he finished with lesser teams and look at where he finished with real madrid - narrowly coming second to a team as good as the one we played the other night.

I've heard folk saying they are worried for our top four finish. That he is clueless. That he is a clown. That he should be sacked.

Have you lost your fucking minds?!

This very much.

I'll admit I have concerns for our top 4 finish at the moment. We have been making the same mistakes since pre-season and nothing appears to be being done about it. We are seeing the same problems every game. I remember thinking about the massive gap between defence and midfield all throughout pre-season, but assumed it was just because they were warm-up games. Surely Pellegrini and his management team can see the issue!?!

The big issue is that we've got rid of Barry with no replacement. Fernandinho, Yaya and Garcia cannot do his job. The only possible option is Milner, but then we lose his attacking threat. We spent 30m on a player we just didn't need, and got rid of someone who has started almost every game for 4 years with no adequate replacement. Absolutely ridiculous decision.

I'm probably overreacting on the 'concerned for the top 4 finish' but the problems in the side are very real and it's hugely worrying that Pellegrini doesn't appear to notice it.

[Blue Since 76]

Really? An opinion on wanting the manager out already? Oh dear.

It was a response to J68's post, so get off the soapbox.

However, whilst I didn't like Mancini, I am concerned that there's no improvement on the pitch, at best. In reality, the defensive side is all over the place and we're no better attacking than we were previously - brilliant and poor in equal measures. 'The Engineer' was supposed to be a tactical mastermind, yet we played 4-4-2 or 4-2-2-2 against Bayern and got battered. Starting like that was ridiculous, but to sit there and watch it for 50 minutes was worse and then to only change like for like was Keeganesque.

I'm getting concerned that Trixie an Dixie have fucked up finding a replacement

[Hazy2]

Is he waiting for Demicelis before we settle down into a formation he knows and trusts, forget his pace and age he might be the organiser he is Counting on, see that. For me we need more from the players, even opening up the minds of international players to a flexible mind.

[Sideshow Bob]

Is he waiting for Demicelis before we settle down into a formation he knows and trusts, forget his pace and age he might be the organiser he is Counting on, see that. For me we need more from the players, even opening up the minds of international players to a flexible mind.

i do think demicelis could be the key to pelle's system. we need a very coordinated back line but at the moment vinny/nastasic are at sea with the concepts. demicelis could turn our season around.

[Hazy2]

Is he waiting for Demicelis before we settle down into a formation he knows and trusts, forget his pace and age he might be the organiser he is Counting on, see that. For me we need more from the players, even opening up the minds of international players to a flexible mind.

i do think demicelis could be the key to pelle's system. we need a very coordinated back line but at the moment vinny/nastasic are at sea with the concepts. demicelis could turn our season around.

The Villa third is so bad on so many levels, without diging anyone out Barry would have won the ball and Vinny and dopey could have been 20 yards back Joe would never have been involved, what ever level of football any of us have played if you have no shape or an ability to be in the right place stupid goals happen all day from a punt we looked like the scum.

[Original Dub]

It was a response to J68's post, so get off the soapbox.

However, whilst I didn't like Mancini, I am concerned that there's no improvement on the pitch, at best. In reality, the defensive side is all over the place and we're no better attacking than we were previously - brilliant and poor in equal measures. 'The Engineer' was supposed to be a tactical mastermind, yet we played 4-4-2 or 4-2-2-2 against Bayern and got battered. Starting like that was ridiculous, but to sit there and watch it for 50 minutes was worse and then to only change like for like was Keeganesque.

I'm getting concerned that Trixie an Dixie have fucked up finding a replacement

No soapbox pal.

Fair play, you're open about leaning towards wanting him out.

I'm not making shit up about you. Maybe we'll look back and say you were right.

I just think it's a tad early.

[john68]

Wahey Piccs Mate....you must be fuckin buzzin at the moment then mate...

This season, another near £100M spent...MONEY = GUARANTEED SUCCESS.,.and we're absolutely running away with.....6th place???? Pal....If only we'd spent as much as Hull or Everton or even Arsenal.....Fuck, we did...

...and how fuckin thrilled you must be to be able to see the mighty Blues attack, attack, attack (and even more attack) our way to defeat at Cardiff.....and Villa....and rip the mighty Hull to shreds.

How fuckin refreshing and exhilarating to watch City being overrun in midfield by Bayern. No worries for you about all this boring defending...much more fun not to have any defending at all....and thank fuck we had a plan B to turn it all around. Just a pity that it took till the 70th minute after Bayern had already won the game and removed their star players.

Shall I write it for you.....Pellergrini out....Surely you've given him long enough by now.

I don't think that's fair either john.


When mancini was trying to change our style we had very similar results at one stage.

Dub,
You are without doubt correct mate but in honesty, it was not just unfair, it was fuklin ridiculous. However i(Wt was wholly based on Picc's assertion that MONEY = GUARANTEED SUCCESS (the further£100M wouldcover that)and the sacking of the boring, negative Mancini would give us exciting exhilarating footie.
I was merely commenting that Piccs must be chuffed to fuck with the massive improvements we have made.

[Socrates]

It was a response to J68's post, so get off the soapbox.

However, whilst I didn't like Mancini, I am concerned that there's no improvement on the pitch, at best. In reality, the defensive side is all over the place and we're no better attacking than we were previously - brilliant and poor in equal measures. 'The Engineer' was supposed to be a tactical mastermind, yet we played 4-4-2 or 4-2-2-2 against Bayern and got battered. Starting like that was ridiculous, but to sit there and watch it for 50 minutes was worse and then to only change like for like was Keeganesque.

I'm getting concerned that Trixie an Dixie have fucked up finding a replacement

No soapbox pal.

Fair play, you're open about leaning towards wanting him out.

I'm not making shit up about you. Maybe we'll look back and say you were right.

I just think it's a tad early.

I think he may as well be given the season, Even if it is a poor one by recent standards, if he shows he can start putting the defence back together again and things are coming together by the end then he should be given a second season. Has been my position from the start and however clown like his efforts so far I really don't see much point changing him unless we are ditching the whole Barcelonamk2 project ad getting rid of the DoF too. I think it is going to be a rocky ride but hope am proven wrong and am sure we will get some more nice performances like the derby to keep us entertained.

[Blue Since 76]

No soapbox pal. Fair play, you're open about leaning towards wanting him out. I'm not making shit up about you. Maybe we'll look back and say you were right. I just think it's a tad early.

I don't want him out and I'm not even leaning that way. However, I'm concerned that this manager is no better and possibly worse than the last one. I'm being honest about my feelings towards Mancini, as I'm not someone bitter that he was sacked - I think it was the right decision, but I expected a replacement who was at least as good.

My initial Juande Ramos comment was, partly, serious - a manager who did well in Spain (better than Pellegrini), won something with Spurs yet never seemed to adapt to the PL and his second season at Spurs was a disaster, until he was sacked about this time of the season. He then went on to manage Madrid (guess who replaced him there).

Any foreign manager is a risk but I'm sincerely hoping we've found another Wenger. I'm just not seeing it though yet. The way we gave him a two year contract, he always looked like an interim appointment to hold the fort until they got the man they wanted. If that's the case, fine, as long as he holds the fort enough to keep us in the top 3.

[Slim]

And the man they want quite simply is Pep.

[zabbadabbado]

Pellegrini seems a decent bloke,a lot have nice things to say about him.

But i am seriously starting to wonder was it really a good idea to replace an authoritarian manager( all be it a bit eccentric) because a few superstars don't like being shouted at with a nice cuddly manager who keeps telling the mard arses in the squad how great they are.I even have my suspicion that Pellegrini keeps picking Dzeko because he dose not want him to throw a hissy fit.

The best managers in the game have all been their own men Paisey,Shankly,Clough,bacon face,they ruled by fear,it keeps players on their toes knowing they have to perform to their optimum.

Pellegrini might be a good manager with the right players,with the wrong players it might all go tits up.Lets not forget Mancini struggled to motivate some of these players and they got him sacked,is Mr Nice Pellegrini and his niceness really what we need at this time,i am not so sure,This might all end in tears unless the owners are prepared for this to be a transitional season and get rid off the inconsistent non performers.

Obviously as a City fan i hope everything turns out great,but the early signs are not good top 4 might be in jeopardy unless there is a drastic improvement.Ii was not upset on Wednesday losing to Bayern Munich,there's no shame in that,it was the shocking performance in a prestige game that did me,i dream off nights like that,and we didn't turn up.

[Foreverinbluedreams]

Pellegrini seems a decent bloke,a lot have nice things to say about him.

But i am seriously starting to wonder was it really a good idea to replace an authoritarian manager( all be it a bit eccentric) because a few superstars don't like being shouted at with a nice cuddly manager who keeps telling the mard arses in the squad how great they are.I even have my suspicion that Pellegrini keeps picking Dzeko because he dose not want him to throw a hissy fit.

The best managers in the game have all been their own men Paisey,Shankly,Clough,bacon face,they ruled by fear,it keeps players on their toes knowing they have to perform to their optimum.

Pellegrini might be a good manager with the right players,with the wrong players it might all go tits up.Lets not forget Mancini struggled to motivate some of these players and they got him sacked,is Mr Nice Pellegrini and his niceness really what we need at this time,i am not so sure,This might all end in tears unless the owners are prepared for this to be a transitional season and get rid off the inconsistent non performers.

Obviously as a City fan i hope everything turns out great,but the early signs are not good top 4 might be in jeopardy unless there is a drastic improvement.Ii was not upset on Wednesday losing to Bayern Munich,there's no shame in that,it was the shocking performance in a prestige game that did me,i dream off nights like that,and we didn't turn up.

That's all well and good but what's really important is how do your rag mates feel about it?

[zabbadabbado]

Pellegrini seems a decent bloke,a lot have nice things to say about him.

But i am seriously starting to wonder was it really a good idea to replace an authoritarian manager( all be it a bit eccentric) because a few superstars don't like being shouted at with a nice cuddly manager who keeps telling the mard arses in the squad how great they are.I even have my suspicion that Pellegrini keeps picking Dzeko because he dose not want him to throw a hissy fit.

The best managers in the game have all been their own men Paisey,Shankly,Clough,bacon face,they ruled by fear,it keeps players on their toes knowing they have to perform to their optimum.

Pellegrini might be a good manager with the right players,with the wrong players it might all go tits up.Lets not forget Mancini struggled to motivate some of these players and they got him sacked,is Mr Nice Pellegrini and his niceness really what we need at this time,i am not so sure,This might all end in tears unless the owners are prepared for this to be a transitional season and get rid off the inconsistent non performers.

Obviously as a City fan i hope everything turns out great,but the early signs are not good top 4 might be in jeopardy unless there is a drastic improvement.Ii was not upset on Wednesday losing to Bayern Munich,there's no shame in that,it was the shocking performance in a prestige game that did me,i dream off nights like that,and we didn't turn up.

That's all well and good but what's really important is how do your rag mates feel about it?[/quote} RAGS have their own problems ironically similar to ours,the old piss pot who brought success and ruled with an iron fist replaced by a bloke who has won nothing in his career and they hope it happens.I just hope it is their manager that has the real shite season and not ours.

[Crossie]

Yaya and Fernandino should be able to play as midfielders together. Remember the days when a midfielder could attack and defend and know how and when to do both? Garry fucking Flitcroft could do it.

Defensive midfielders are just shit midfielders who are too slow or too naturally unfit to run up and down for 90mins.

Attacking midfielders are pussies who can't be bothered do the dirty work.

Our 2 central midfielders are capable of doing it all in combination. The theory should be that they can play together and are more than good enough to dominate the midfield against every club we play against.

The key to our season is those 2 dickheads figuring that out.