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Re: Mancini

Postby PeterParker » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:24 pm

[...]

We are a professional team and
professional players. [Until the last
week we did a fantastic job
Today we
have 15 points more than last year and
have improved a lot as a team

[...]

This is fron the official site, what Bob said. What more can we say?
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Re: Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:25 pm

PeterParker wrote:[...]

We are a professional team and
professional players. [Until the last
week we did a fantastic job
Today we
have 15 points more than last year and
have improved a lot as a team

[...]

This is fron the official site, what Bob said. What more can we say?



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Re: Mancini

Postby lovecity8utd » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:26 pm

The second half of the season has been crap compared to our early form, but we were still within touching distance of winning the league until today. Was horrible performance - Mancini let down by some good players, but at fault for not changing things sooner.

As disappointed as I feel right now, I want him in charge again next season, unless guardiola decides not to renew his deal at the Nou camp.
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Re: Mancini

Postby blues2win » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:29 pm

Of course I'm speculating that Mancini's indulgence of Balotelli is losing him the dressing room but there are two pieces of evidence. First De Jong's remarks this week and second Hart's reaction to the red card. It's hard to believe that the players are any less baffled and fed up with his stubborn faith in Balotelli as virtually every fan on this site is.

For this seaon we have two remaining objectives. First, to nail down runner's up spot which isn't in the bag. Second, to beat the Scum. Right now we're on course to give them the guard of honour which is too much to take after the early promise this season.
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Re: Mancini

Postby Tru_Blu » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:31 pm

What fairy tale are people buying into? You buy some quality players and you win everything. Give me a fucking break. We live in the year 2012 people. I can watch a replay of the goal on my computer before they stop celebrating. We are advanced people nothing come easy especially winning at sports. City are truly making strides and Mancini has been the one pulling the strings. To be second in the league with the world hoping for you to fail should show you how well he has actually done. No we haven't been perfect but what team has? Barcelona are behind Madrid are they calling for Peps head. uSCUMnitWITSed are the medias sweetheart its not going to change but we are. Up and up people that's where we are headed and the facts are there season after season. We are more experienced as owners as management players and team. This is the time to stay firm and hold strong City Till I Die.
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Re: Mancini

Postby Grob » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:35 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:I was expecting Arsenal to come out firing today so I wasn't surprised, and we were nicely positioned to mug them on the break (as we were about to do when Yaya was assaulted).

I think by about ten mins into the second half we were ideally placed to go for a shit or bust attempt at getting back in the title race. Mancini didn't have the balls to do it & much as i like him as a bloke, I'm not sure I can ever fully trust him now.


We let Arsenel have complete and utter control by letting them play

It was lucky we weren't 1 or 2 down by the half hour mark. They weren't just having meaningless possession. They were creating so many openings that had it not been for Vinny and Lescott they would have mullered us.

Surely that cant have been the tactics?
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Re: Mancini

Postby Grob » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:36 pm

PeterParker wrote:[...]

We are a professional team and
professional players. [Until the last
week we did a fantastic job
Today we
have 15 points more than last year and
have improved a lot as a team

[...]

This is fron the official site, what Bob said. What more can we say?


He's either feeding stock lines or he's lost the plot.

The truths probably in the middle.
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Re: Mancini

Postby Grob » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:41 pm

Tru_Blu wrote:What fairy tale are people buying into? You buy some quality players and you win everything. Give me a fucking break. We live in the year 2012 people. I can watch a replay of the goal on my computer before they stop celebrating. We are advanced people nothing come easy especially winning at sports. City are truly making strides and Mancini has been the one pulling the strings. To be second in the league with the world hoping for you to fail should show you how well he has actually done. No we haven't been perfect but what team has? Barcelona are behind Madrid are they calling for Peps head. uSCUMnitWITSed are the medias sweetheart its not going to change but we are. Up and up people that's where we are headed and the facts are there season after season. We are more experienced as owners as management players and team. This is the time to stay firm and hold strong City Till I Die.


2 things

If you have by far the strongest and most expensive squad in the league on paper, which we do, then shouldn't our manager have the easiest job out of the 20 premier league managers to create a league winning formula or formulas over 38 games? Would it be wrong of fans to expect that?

Over the last 4 months have we improved as a team or got worse?
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Re: Mancini

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:43 pm

Tru_Blu wrote:What fairy tale are people buying into? You buy some quality players and you win everything. Give me a fucking break. We live in the year 2012 people. I can watch a replay of the goal on my computer before they stop celebrating. We are advanced people nothing come easy especially winning at sports. City are truly making strides and Mancini has been the one pulling the strings. To be second in the league with the world hoping for you to fail should show you how well he has actually done. No we haven't been perfect but what team has? Barcelona are behind Madrid are they calling for Peps head. uSCUMnitWITSed are the medias sweetheart its not going to change but we are. Up and up people that's where we are headed and the facts are there season after season. We are more experienced as owners as management players and team. This is the time to stay firm and hold strong City Till I Die.


Can I have some of the happy juice your on? Mancini's tactics from the first half of the season have been worked out and now we're struggling. Just as happens to promoted sides when the surprise everyone until Xmas.

Mancini was inept in Europe for inter and now us, which should prove his calibre as a manager. He's been outwitted by O'Neil, Moyes, Brendan Rodgers, Dalglish and more. Give us the same amount to spend as say Fulham and we'd be staring at bottom three.
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Re: Mancini

Postby Ted Hughes » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:48 pm

For all the arguments for & against (& most of mine are 'for') we had 30 mins to rescue our season today & he didn't try.

Even to someone like myself who has been a Mancini licker all season, there is no excuse for it.

If he can lose it today, how do we know he won't do the same next season ? It's on days like this that reputations are made or destroyed.
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Re: Mancini

Postby david yearsley » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:52 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:For all the arguments for & against (& most of mine are 'for') we had 30 mins to rescue our season today & he didn't try.

Even to someone like myself who has been a Mancini licker all season, there is no excuse for it.

If he can lose it today, how do we know he won't do the same next season ? It's on days like this that reputations are made or destroyed.


Bang on - he´s done it far too often to be trusted. Next season really is make or break. Would you really put your mortgage on Bob coming up with the goods? If we´re lucky we could scrape a Carling cup which we should have won this year sending out a full team with white sticks and blindfolds
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Re: Mancini

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:53 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:For all the arguments for & against (& most of mine are 'for') we had 30 mins to rescue our season today & he didn't try.

Even to someone like myself who has been a Mancini licker all season, there is no excuse for it.

If he can lose it today, how do we know he won't do the same next season ? It's on days like this that reputations are made or destroyed.


At least your man enough to come on ths site and recognize those facts instead of stayign away like the Donut muncher and the Mancunian mummy....who will probably come on tomorrow telling everyone that we won a cup and City were shit years ago.
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Re: Mancini

Postby PeterParker » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:54 pm

I really wonder if the club sign with someone already and i am thinking at Mourinho and Bob & the squad had found out, that's why they aren't even trying.

For the first time this week, i've heard Bobby talking about a possible sacking in the summer, Mario has gone to fucksville lately and no one is even trying to do something to change our situation.
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Re: Mancini

Postby ayrshireblue » Sun Apr 08, 2012 6:59 pm

PeterParker wrote:I really wonder if the club sign with someone already and i am thinking at Mourinho and Bob & the squad had found out, that's why they aren't even trying.

For the first time this week, i've heard Bobby talking about a possible sacking in the summer, Mario has gone to fucksville lately and no one is even trying to do something to change our situation.


The second half of the season has shades of Eriksson's season when he knew that he was getting sacked.
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Re: Mancini

Postby london blue 2 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:16 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:For all the arguments for & against (& most of mine are 'for') we had 30 mins to rescue our season today & he didn't try.

Even to someone like myself who has been a Mancini licker all season, there is no excuse for it.

If he can lose it today, how do we know he won't do the same next season ? It's on days like this that reputations are made or destroyed.

Ted he had 90 minutes, he bottled them as did the players. Please don't fall into the trap of thinking this game was 30 minutes long...
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Re: Mancini

Postby Redna » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:25 pm

PeterParker wrote:I really wonder if the club sign with someone already and i am thinking at Mourinho and Bob & the squad had found out, that's why they aren't even trying.

For the first time this week, i've heard Bobby talking about a possible sacking in the summer, Mario has gone to fucksville lately and no one is even trying to do something to change our situation.

If we are in a title challangr and suddenly everyone thinks the man is gone and stops to play how the fuck are we a proffesional club. Beoynd me
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Re: Mancini

Postby EEE » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:26 pm

I'm echoing Ted here; not really any excuses for not pushing it today - not playing free flowing football - fine. Not giving everything to trying to snatch a win - unforgivable. Can't understand why there was no changes made earlier in the game; Tevez should have been coming on a lot earlier. Days like today, I can't support Mancini.

I still think that Mancini can learn from hist mistakes though - I'm willing to give him another season to get get things right. I believe that consistency at the manager role is the most important factor for our long term success. And I still believe that Mancini is competent enough to guide us to this success. Further, I can't see many options that would be better than Mancini.

Mourinho - hard to argue about his competence and results. I'm not gonna bring up that he's bit of a prick and not the person I would like to see in charge of City. However, as other have mentioned - how long would he stick around here? Once again, we need someone that we believe would be guiding City forward for the coming ten years. Don't think Mourinho is that man.

Guardiola - is doing a great job for Barcelona and is more of a gentleman than Mourinho. But how would he cope with the Premiership, how long would it take for him to learn how to play the ones of Stoke and Everton. I also have the feeling he's a bit soft, will miss Spain and wont stay in England for 10-15 years.

Those of you that's dead certain that the only way forwards is to sack Mancini. Who do you believe would get us that long term success and be willing to stick around here for the coming +10 year? Any other names that the usual victims a la Mourinho/Guardiola?
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Re: Mancini

Postby Blue Since 76 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:27 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:For all the arguments for & against (& most of mine are 'for') we had 30 mins to rescue our season today & he didn't try.

Even to someone like myself who has been a Mancini licker all season, there is no excuse for it.

If he can lose it today, how do we know he won't do the same next season ? It's on days like this that reputations are made or destroyed.


That was my thoughts last season and even after the cup, I'd have got rid in summer if a better option was available. Up until Xmas, I was glad I wasn't in charge as suddenly a different team had appeared. Then the pressure came on and he's reverted to type. However, whereas last season we didn't even try to win and grabbed some dodgy points, since Xmas we've been all over the place. We're not defensive enough to look solid and not dangerous enough to look like we can win.

I wouldn't trust him with next season, as it's likely to start how this one has finished.
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Re: Mancini

Postby london blue 2 » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:28 pm

EEE wrote:I'm echoing Ted here; not really any excuses for not pushing it today - not playing free flowing football - fine. Not giving everything to trying to snatch a win - unforgivable. Can't understand why there was no changes made earlier in the game; Tevez should have been coming on a lot earlier. Days like today, I can't support Mancini.

I still think that Mancini can learn from hist mistakes though - I'm willing to give him another season to get get things right. I believe that consistency at the manager role is the most important factor for our long term success. And I still believe that Mancini is competent enough to guide us to this success. Further, I can't see many options that would be better than Mancini.

Mourinho - hard to argue about his competence and results. I'm not gonna bring up that he's bit of a prick and not the person I would like to see in charge of City. However, as other have mentioned - how long would he stick around here? Once again, we need someone that we believe would be guiding City forward for the coming ten years. Don't think Mourinho is that man.

Guardiola - is doing a great job for Barcelona and is more of a gentleman than Mourinho. But how would he cope with the Premiership, how long would it take for him to learn how to play the ones of Stoke and Everton. I also have the feeling he's a bit soft, will miss Spain and wont stay in England for 10-15 years.

Those of you that's dead certain that the only way forwards is to sack Mancini. Who do you believe would get us that long term success and be willing to stick around here for the coming +10 year? Any other names that the usual victims a la Mourinho/Guardiola?

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Re: Mancini

Postby Dameerto » Sun Apr 08, 2012 7:31 pm

ayrshireblue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:I really wonder if the club sign with someone already and i am thinking at Mourinho and Bob & the squad had found out, that's why they aren't even trying.

For the first time this week, i've heard Bobby talking about a possible sacking in the summer, Mario has gone to fucksville lately and no one is even trying to do something to change our situation.


The second half of the season has shades of Eriksson's season when he knew that he was getting sacked.


It's been at the back of my mind since Mourinho was spotted visiting London not long ago. The visit could have been for any number of other reasons though. I've been watching for any sort of communication between the two clubs via the press since then, just to see what tone it took.
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