Anyone got Moureens number?

[john68]

I have to say I've been very impressed with how Spartacus has articulated on this subject.

Now who's playing mind games.....:-)

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

I have to say I've been very impressed with how Spartacus has articulated on this subject.

Now who's playing mind games.....:-)

No John, he has been very wise.
Plus....... you would need a mind for me to play games with.

[Chinners]

Maureen can feck off as far as I'm concerned ... we'll be looking for another manager again after two seasons so whats the point

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

Maureen can feck off as far as I'm concerned ... we'll be looking for another manager again after two seasons so whats the point

We won't give him THAT long before we want the twat out!

[Ted Hughes]

That's the $64 million question.
But as I can't see the direction we're meant to be going in under Mancini, I think it is less of a risk.
So much depends on the FA Cup, win that and once again it is hard to dismiss him. But is that enough when we presumably want bigger things?

I don't actually give a flying toss about the FA Cup when it comes to judging the manager. I would love to win it of course, but with this squad I would expect any old manager to win the FA Cup here & there, so I won't judge Mancini either way on that.

Winning the title however was a huge achievement & I'm not sure that many managers could have done it so quickly. Therefore, I'm not convinced that many managers would be a consistent improvement on Bob, although for this season, I think Mel fucking Machin wold have been an improvement, as Bob has been utterly useless 90% of the time.

I would back Bob to get his shit together & deliver next season more than I would back most of his potential replacements though.

I have to add though that if Mourinho took over, I think we would get at least equal or better results, especially in Europe.

I have no football reason for not wanting Mourinho, he is a proven better manager than Bob so far.

I just don't want that circus of petty squabbling bullshit at our place, end of.

[carl_feedthegoat]

That's the $64 million question.
But as I can't see the direction we're meant to be going in under Mancini, I think it is less of a risk.
So much depends on the FA Cup, win that and once again it is hard to dismiss him. But is that enough when we presumably want bigger things?

I don't actually give a flying toss about the FA Cup when it comes to judging the manager. I would love to win it of course, but with this squad I would expect any old manager to win the FA Cup here & there, so I won't judge Mancini either way on that.

Winning the title however was a huge achievement & I'm not sure that many managers could have done it so quickly. Therefore, I'm not convinced that many managers would be a consistent improvement on Bob, although for this season, I think Mel fucking Machin wold have been an improvement, as Bob has been utterly useless 90% of the time.

I would back Bob to get his shit together & deliver next season more than I would back most of his potential replacements though.

I have to add though that if Mourinho took over, I think we would get at least equal or better results, especially in Europe.

I have no football reason for not wanting Mourinho, he is a proven better manager than Bob so far.

I just don't want that circus of petty squabbling bullshit at our place, end of.

And we havent had any squabbling at our gaff ? the Tevez affair wasnt a circus? the weekly Ballo drivel wasnt a Circus?

I think when all is said and done we have had enough goings on at City with Mancini in charge to match Billy smarts fuckign circus mate.

Ive said it before , Mourinho would not be a gamble , anybody else would be.

[Lee_R]

Have to admit even though I started this thread.. Mourinhos stats this season are worse than Mancinis in the league. Considering R Madrid are by far the 2nd best team in the spanish league and the big divide, its quite shocking.

(league only)

Mancini
P 26
W 15
D 8
L 3
F 48
A 24

Mourinho
P 23
W 14
D 4
L 5
F 58
A 22

Kind of tells me that if it wasnt for Ronaldo, as a team they'd not be doing too well.

[Lee_R]

Have to admit even though I started this thread.. Mourinhos stats this season are worse than Mancinis in the league. Considering R Madrid are by far the 2nd best team in the spanish league and the big divide, its quite shocking.

(league only)

Mancini
P 26
W 15
D 8
L 3
F 48
A 24

Mourinho
P 23
W 14
D 4
L 5
F 58
A 22

Kind of tells me that if it wasnt for Ronaldo, as a team they'd not be doing too well.

edit. I'd still have him though.

[Swales4ever]

I ask a specific question, and you dodge the question again....and again...and again.
There are many weaknesses to your argument but this perhaps is the biggest. "Maybe, somewhere, in the whole of football, there may be."....Is that it? Maybe...possibly...somewhere.
Quite obviously beyond demolition and destruction, you haven't thought this through.

Honestly Roger, you don't want a debate, you just want a moan.

lots of love
Not impressed
Middleton

Tbh, I am bitterly un-impressed with You as well, my lost, menstruated love... :-)
I see You apply double standards at Your annoyance, whether to someone from somewhere the Yorkshire or to some1 from somewhere the North Africa. I just hope You have not been bitten by our friend Arjan.
I don't even try and put onto the equation the difference between a fucktard who contempts his Club just because he hates an employee, and someone who "dodges the question" because he can't be bothered to debate a economic axiom.

You know, those dismissed loves can be so bitter, particularly those coming from the south... :-)

[zuricity]

And we havent had any squabbling at our gaff ? the Tevez affair wasnt a circus? the weekly Ballo drivel wasnt a Circus?

I think when all is said and done we have had enough goings on at City with Mancini in charge to match Billy smarts fuckign circus mate.

Ive said it before , Mourinho would not be a gamble , anybody else would be.

Sorry Carl , don't often disagree , but Jose would be a very big gamble. Very big. I think he's a spent force. Furthermore i don't and never have wanted him anywhere near City.

Let him go to the swamp whilst we watch the demise of the Rags.

[Ted Hughes]

And we havent had any squabbling at our gaff ? the Tevez affair wasnt a circus? the weekly Ballo drivel wasnt a Circus?

I think when all is said and done we have had enough goings on at City with Mancini in charge to match Billy smarts fuckign circus mate.

Ive said it before , Mourinho would not be a gamble , anybody else would be.

Sorry Carl , don't often disagree , but Jose would be a very big gamble. Very big. I think he's a spent force. Furthermore i don't and never have wanted him anywhere near City.

Let him go to the swamp whilst we watch the demise of the Rags.

We have had our share of embarrassing incidents & Bob can be a bit of a turd at times, but the stuff which happens around Mourinho has a raglike kind of evil nastiness about it which we don't.

He will continue to win stuff though. I made the mistake of calling him a spent force & overrated, on here when he went to Inter & he improved Bob's team hugely & again won the Champions League with a side nowhere near the best in the competition, thus forcing me to eat my words. Then he twatted the invincible Barca team.

The bloke is having a bad season but he is fucking good at his job, & is having to play a lot more open & cavallier as Real's manager than he would if it was upto him.

[Blue Since 76]

One of the key things for Mancini going forwards will be how much money we have to spend. His standard response to date has been to want more players to resolve problem areas. That may be his default style or it may be that he was working for a club with limitless resources, so why not ask.

If going forwards we are going to need to be more thrifty, then is Bob up to it? He's obviously happy spending big, but can he wheel and deal or spot bargains? Whilst Savic was a horror show I actually think Nastasic has the makings of a top quality centre half. I know he wasn't buttons, but he was a cheaper gamble that Bob was willing to take.

I honestly don't know what Bob is like at getting lesser players and improving them. Of the current squad, some have improved, some seem to have got worse, but it's different with older players with big egos than with kids or some player you've just picked up from Reading. If it's not something he'd want to do, then we may have to make a change regardless.

[Beefymcfc]

Maureen Out!

[carl_feedthegoat]

Have to admit even though I started this thread.. Mourinhos stats this season are worse than Mancinis in the league. Considering R Madrid are by far the 2nd best team in the spanish league and the big divide, its quite shocking.

(league only)

Mancini
P 26
W 15
D 8
L 3
F 48
A 24

Mourinho
P 23
W 14
D 4
L 5
F 58
A 22

Kind of tells me that if it wasnt for Ronaldo, as a team they'd not be doing too well.

Rags without VP wouldnt be doing well either.......btw RM are still in the CL.

[Beefymcfc]

In all seriousness, it's a wierd one with JM this season. So far off the pace that even Atletico are above them. We think we've got a good squad of players but he's got a fantastic group there that should be beating the likes of Granada and certainly not drawing with the then bottom team of Espanyol. What's more mystifying is that he is the arm round the shoulder manager that every club he's at, love. When you have fall-outs with strong characters and the crowd are booing you before, during and after games then you know something is seriously wrong.

JM is currently one of the greats in the game and for things to go so wrong, so quickly, then it makes you wonder if he can pull it back.

On another note, I'd love Real to beat the Rags tomorrow in similar way to how they beat us; a fuck up at the back in the dying minutes.

[carl_feedthegoat]

In all seriousness, it's a wierd one with JM this season. So far off the pace that even Atletico are above them. We think we've got a good squad of players but he's got a fantastic group there that should be beating the likes of Granada and certainly not drawing with the then bottom team of Espanyol. What's more mystifying is that he is the arm round the shoulder manager that every club he's at, love. When you have fall-outs with strong characters and the crowd are booing you before, during and after games then you know something is seriously wrong.

JM is currently one of the greats in the game and for things to go so wrong, so quickly, then it makes you wonder if he can pull it back.

On another note, I'd love Real to beat the Rags tomorrow in similar way to how they beat us; a fuck up at the back in the dying minutes.

In JM defence , RM is a political shit fest of a club where players virtually rule the club - the president never seems to back a manager over a top player, especially a Spanish player.
I reckon JM thought fuck it, especially after the player /Manager spats that went on and he knew the writting was on the wall. He seems to show little to no interest in lots of domestic games they have played since , or at least that seems to be how I perceive him to act.

He will be up for tomorrow match though....he better win or he can fuck off as well.!!!!

[Blue Since 76]

In all seriousness, it's a wierd one with JM this season. So far off the pace that even Atletico are above them. We think we've got a good squad of players but he's got a fantastic group there that should be beating the likes of Granada and certainly not drawing with the then bottom team of Espanyol. What's more mystifying is that he is the arm round the shoulder manager that every club he's at, love. When you have fall-outs with strong characters and the crowd are booing you before, during and after games then you know something is seriously wrong.

JM is currently one of the greats in the game and for things to go so wrong, so quickly, then it makes you wonder if he can pull it back.

On another note, I'd love Real to beat the Rags tomorrow in similar way to how they beat us; a fuck up at the back in the dying minutes.

Think he's only interested in the CL and not the first manager to fall out with half the people at Madrid.

I'm actually hoping for a tight victory for Madrid tomorrow just to get the rags hopes up. Then a 7-0 win for Madrid in the second leg.

[john68]

I have to say I've been very impressed with how Spartacus has articulated on this subject.

Now who's playing mind games.....:-)

No John, he has been very wise.
Plus....... you would need a mind for me to play games with.

Obviously, that's me outta here on that one then.

[Socrates]

And we havent had any squabbling at our gaff ? the Tevez affair wasnt a circus? the weekly Ballo drivel wasnt a Circus?

I think when all is said and done we have had enough goings on at City with Mancini in charge to match Billy smarts fuckign circus mate.

Ive said it before , Mourinho would not be a gamble , anybody else would be.

Sorry Carl , don't often disagree , but Jose would be a very big gamble. Very big. I think he's a spent force. Furthermore i don't and never have wanted him anywhere near City.

Let him go to the swamp whilst we watch the demise of the Rags.

We have had our share of embarrassing incidents & Bob can be a bit of a turd at times, but the stuff which happens around Mourinho has a raglike kind of evil nastiness about it which we don't.

He will continue to win stuff though. I made the mistake of calling him a spent force & overrated, on here when he went to Inter & he improved Bob's team hugely & again won the Champions League with a side nowhere near the best in the competition, thus forcing me to eat my words. Then he twatted the invincible Barca team.

The bloke is having a bad season but he is fucking good at his job, & is having to play a lot more open & cavallier as Real's manager than he would if it was upto him.

Not often this happens but agree with you 100%. Add to that I cannot see him taking the job when he sees his destiny to be managing our neighbours.

[Hazy2]

The special 1 has lost the. Battle in Spain the written media unlike London have seen through him . Casillas Ramos are World Cup winners Spanish and as Carl points out powerfully nailing him. Casillas wife is a top football reporter presenter . He is a game or 3 from the end . Lose tonight badly sacked in the morning?