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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby freshie » Wed May 30, 2012 7:29 pm

Kyle wrote:I hope Edin stays. I am not a huge fan, but he does give us something different. If we did decide to sell him we would need to bring in someone who can head the ball and hold up play (hopefully with a better first touch then Edin).

Variety is the spice of life and all that jazz.


That someone is Cavani
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby Wonderwall » Wed May 30, 2012 7:40 pm

CityGer wrote:I'd definitely sell him if we can recoup anything £20Mil+.

He's a confidence player. He needs to be the main man and he needs to play week in, week out. He's not going to get that with us because he's not good enough and he doesn't work hard enough.

He's not at the level of someone like Cavani IMO and if we can move Dzeko out and get Cavani in for a net spend of £10Mil it would be good business.

It's certainly going to be interesting to see what happens this summer with our group of forwards. I'd like to see a decision made on Tevez as soon as possible.


Cant see cavani scoring that header against QPR. We need an Edin Dzeko.
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby CityGer » Wed May 30, 2012 7:45 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
CityGer wrote:I'd definitely sell him if we can recoup anything £20Mil+.

He's a confidence player. He needs to be the main man and he needs to play week in, week out. He's not going to get that with us because he's not good enough and he doesn't work hard enough.

He's not at the level of someone like Cavani IMO and if we can move Dzeko out and get Cavani in for a net spend of £10Mil it would be good business.

It's certainly going to be interesting to see what happens this summer with our group of forwards. I'd like to see a decision made on Tevez as soon as possible.


Cant see cavani scoring that header against QPR. We need an Edin Dzeko.


Can't you?

He's twice the player in the air that Edin is. I'll always be grateful for that goal but to suggest he's better in the air than Cavani is miles off the mark.

Cavani is far better player with a work rate that puts Edin to shame.
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed May 30, 2012 7:49 pm

Wonderwall wrote:
CityGer wrote:I'd definitely sell him if we can recoup anything £20Mil+.

He's a confidence player. He needs to be the main man and he needs to play week in, week out. He's not going to get that with us because he's not good enough and he doesn't work hard enough.

He's not at the level of someone like Cavani IMO and if we can move Dzeko out and get Cavani in for a net spend of £10Mil it would be good business.

It's certainly going to be interesting to see what happens this summer with our group of forwards. I'd like to see a decision made on Tevez as soon as possible.


Cant see cavani scoring that header against QPR. We need an Edin Dzeko.


FFS Dzeko brings something different to the table..he scored 19 goals and there and was one of the main reasons we won the premiership.

I dont want him going anywhere...fuck cavani and fuck the rest of the forwards being mentioned.

We only need a mercurial type winger.
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby Wonderwall » Wed May 30, 2012 7:51 pm

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Can't you?

He's twice the player in the air that Edin is. I'll always be grateful for that goal but to suggest he's better in the air than Cavani is miles off the mark.

Cavani is far better player with a work rate that puts Edin to shame.


I have seen cavani on a few occasions and agree with his work rate, cant say I noticed the aerial ability but if true then its an upgrade.
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby Goaters 103 » Wed May 30, 2012 7:54 pm

I like Cavani but he would expect to play a lot more - Edin brought 19 goals to the table, and also wasnt poison in the changing room either. Doubtful if Cavani would settle for spending 50% of the season on the bench.

Other factors must be a consideration here - personally I think we have far more pressing needs elsewhwere and would keep Dzeko, Balotelli and Aguero.
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby Swales4ever » Wed May 30, 2012 8:28 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:FFS Dzeko brings something different to the table..he scored 19 goals and there and was one of the main reasons we won the premiership.

I dont want him going anywhere...fuck cavani and fuck the rest of the forwards being mentioned.

We only need a mercurial type winger.

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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby DoomMerchant » Wed May 30, 2012 9:43 pm

outside of maybe real madrid, do we not have the best cadre of forwards in the world?

we've got some issues with 3 of the 4 for sure, but realistically, they just banged in a shitload of goals and won the league.

An upgrade is an upgrade, but i can tell you whichever new fellas we swap them out for, they'll likely find some issues or challenges as well given that only 1-2 are going to play a match.

Plenty of games to go around, but collecting 3-4 world class or nearly world-class forwards on one roster isn't exactly easy business.

i'd prefer time and money spent on a wide player, cover for Barry and a CB. we nail those three slots and our forward story if it remains the same and no one goes off the boil -- i know, i know, but let's assume they've grown this year and will come out with huge bollocks after winning the league -- we'll be ready to try and defend our keep.

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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby Wonderwall » Wed May 30, 2012 9:51 pm

DoomMerchant wrote:outside of maybe real madrid, do we not have the best cadre of forwards in the world?

we've got some issues with 3 of the 4 for sure, but realistically, they just banged in a shitload of goals and won the league.

An upgrade is an upgrade, but i can tell you whichever new fellas we swap them out for, they'll likely find some issues or challenges as well given that only 1-2 are going to play a match.

Plenty of games to go around, but collecting 3-4 world class or nearly world-class forwards on one roster isn't exactly easy business.

i'd prefer time and money spent on a wide player, cover for Barry and a CB. we nail those three slots and our forward story if it remains the same and no one goes off the boil -- i know, i know, but let's assume they've grown this year and will come out with huge bollocks after winning the league -- we'll be ready to try and defend our keep.

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TBH if my new boss said come and work for me. You will have more time off be higher profile, be fitter and fresher when I work, play on the higheat stage and get a wage rise..... Ermmm yeah. Ok
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby BlueinBosnia » Wed May 30, 2012 10:11 pm

Wonderwall wrote:TBH if my new boss said come and work for me. You will have more time off be higher profile, be fitter and fresher when I work, play on the higheat stage and get a wage rise..... Ermmm yeah. Ok

Didn't we brand Sturridge a mercenary for adopting that mentality?

I think this would vary from player to player. Obviously, people like Bridge and Mills have followed that train of thought, but I'm sure if you asked Santa Cruz or Bellamy, they'd choose the game time.
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby DoomMerchant » Wed May 30, 2012 10:33 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:TBH if my new boss said come and work for me. You will have more time off be higher profile, be fitter and fresher when I work, play on the higheat stage and get a wage rise..... Ermmm yeah. Ok

Didn't we brand Sturridge a mercenary for adopting that mentality?

I think this would vary from player to player. Obviously, people like Bridge and Mills have followed that train of thought, but I'm sure if you asked Santa Cruz or Bellamy, they'd choose the game time.


am i the only retard that didn't understand WWs vheroic post? it was just. the way that sometimes. the words and punctuation.

that is all.

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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby Wonderwall » Wed May 30, 2012 10:36 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:Didn't we brand Sturridge a mercenary for adopting that mentality?

I think this would vary from player to player. Obviously, people like Bridge and Mills have followed that train of thought, but I'm sure if you asked Santa Cruz or Bellamy, they'd choose the game time.


Difference is i would expect top performance. Your examples dont meet this.
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby phips » Thu May 31, 2012 2:47 am

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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby PALUS » Thu May 31, 2012 5:41 am

CityGer wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
CityGer wrote:I'd definitely sell him if we can recoup anything £20Mil+.

He's a confidence player. He needs to be the main man and he needs to play week in, week out. He's not going to get that with us because he's not good enough and he doesn't work hard enough.

He's not at the level of someone like Cavani IMO and if we can move Dzeko out and get Cavani in for a net spend of £10Mil it would be good business.

It's certainly going to be interesting to see what happens this summer with our group of forwards. I'd like to see a decision made on Tevez as soon as possible.


Cant see cavani scoring that header against QPR. We need an Edin Dzeko.


Can't you?

He's twice the player in the air that Edin is. I'll always be grateful for that goal but to suggest he's better in the air than Cavani is miles off the mark.
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby CityGer » Thu May 31, 2012 5:48 am

PALUS wrote:
CityGer wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
CityGer wrote:I'd definitely sell him if we can recoup anything £20Mil+.

He's a confidence player. He needs to be the main man and he needs to play week in, week out. He's not going to get that with us because he's not good enough and he doesn't work hard enough.

He's not at the level of someone like Cavani IMO and if we can move Dzeko out and get Cavani in for a net spend of £10Mil it would be good business.

It's certainly going to be interesting to see what happens this summer with our group of forwards. I'd like to see a decision made on Tevez as soon as possible.


Cant see cavani scoring that header against QPR. We need an Edin Dzeko.


Can't you?

He's twice the player in the air that Edin is. I'll always be grateful for that goal but to suggest he's better in the air than Cavani is miles off the mark.

Cavani is far better player with a work rate that puts Edin to shame.

Only Edin has 2 titels one with small Wolfsburg and u cant compere that two players and score 19 goals and have 7 assist with playing only first parth and some second parth of championship , somhow that isint enough and he is like some second class player who is forever in history of City with that second goal but ok bring Cavani and let him leave i can read this relly stupid comments any more


I put the needs of City first in my thinking, you don't.

You're right though, you can't compare them. One is an immobile, big girls blouse with the touch of a rapist, the other is a hard working, powerful centre forward with top class movement and finishing.

The two players are on a different level, imo.
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby PALUS » Thu May 31, 2012 5:53 am

CityGer wrote:
PALUS wrote:
CityGer wrote:
Wonderwall wrote:
CityGer wrote:I'd definitely sell him if we can recoup anything £20Mil+.

He's a confidence player. He needs to be the main man and he needs to play week in, week out. He's not going to get that with us because he's not good enough and he doesn't work hard enough.

He's not at the level of someone like Cavani IMO and if we can move Dzeko out and get Cavani in for a net spend of £10Mil it would be good business.

It's certainly going to be interesting to see what happens this summer with our group of forwards. I'd like to see a decision made on Tevez as soon as possible.


Cant see cavani scoring that header against QPR. We need an Edin Dzeko.


Can't you?

He's twice the player in the air that Edin is. I'll always be grateful for that goal but to suggest he's better in the air than Cavani is miles off the mark.

Cavani is far better player with a work rate that puts Edin to shame.

Only Edin has 2 titels one with small Wolfsburg and u cant compere that two players and score 19 goals and have 7 assist with playing only first parth and some second parth of championship , somhow that isint enough and he is like some second class player who is forever in history of City with that second goal but ok bring Cavani and let him leave i can read this relly stupid comments any more


I put the needs of City first in my thinking, you don't.

You're right though, you can't compare them. One is an immobile, big girls blouse with the touch of a rapist, the other is a hard working, powerful centre forward with top class movement and finishing.

The two players are on a different level, imo.

i didnt say anything abaut City neds ok let him leave but to say that Cavani is twice player of Edin is just stupid .
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby CityGer » Thu May 31, 2012 5:56 am

I didnt say anything abaut City neds


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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby PALUS » Thu May 31, 2012 5:57 am

By the way i see there is enough people to understan that City has relly good atack.. Cavani for best player in world i give my vote :)
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby PALUS » Thu May 31, 2012 6:01 am

CityGer wrote:
I didnt say anything abaut City neds


Exactly.

stupido that means that i only commenting that u said that Cavani is on difrent level not needs of City who i can see in forwards are good and Edin prove him self yet again with that goal how big player he is in importen games one good winger u will see rain of goals but i will stop now i see u are one of a u are Bosnian u cant love City :)
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Re: Edin out the door?

Postby CityGer » Thu May 31, 2012 6:13 am

PALUS wrote:
CityGer wrote:
I didnt say anything abaut City neds


Exactly.

stupido that means that i only commenting that u said that Cavani is on difrent level not needs of City who i can see in forwards are good and Edin prove him self yet again with that goal how big player he is in importen games one good winger u will see rain of goals but i will stop now i see u are one of a u are Bosnian u cant love City :)


No, you're problem is that Dzeko comes first, not City. You also have an inability to debate issues on Dzeko without losing the rag, taking things personally and exaggerating.

Talking to you really isn't worth the effort so I'll stop now.
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