We could have had both but it was Sterling's call we haven't. Pep wanted him to stay - there is no absolutey doubt about that - and our current squad would be significantly improved if he were still in it. No doubt about that either. Finally, he's not been replaced by Haaland or by Alvarez that is a totally false equivalence and nobody in their right mind would think there was ever a choice between either or both of them and Raz. To suggest there was is just another baseless attack on a star quality City player who was an integral part of our success for the seven years he was with us.Outcast wrote:Lets put it to bed. Sterling was alright, didn't do too shabby for us. If you still in doubt whether we should have sold him or not, put simply, who would you rather had in the champions League final vs Chelsea when we desperately needed a game changer, Haaland or Sterling?? Or even Alvarez Vs Sterling?
If you think Sterling, I suggest you get professional help
johnny crossan wrote:We could have had both but it was Sterling's call we haven't. Pep wanted him to stay - there is no absolutey doubt about that - and our current squad would be significantly improved if he were still in it. No doubt about that either. Finally, he's not been replaced by Haaland or by Alvarez that is a totally false equivalence and nobody in their right mind would think there was ever a choice between either or both of them and Raz. To suggest there was is just another baseless attack on a star quality City player who was an integral part of our success for the seven years he was with us.Outcast wrote:Lets put it to bed. Sterling was alright, didn't do too shabby for us. If you still in doubt whether we should have sold him or not, put simply, who would you rather had in the champions League final vs Chelsea when we desperately needed a game changer, Haaland or Sterling?? Or even Alvarez Vs Sterling?
If you think Sterling, I suggest you get professional help
That is really cheap & empty shot with not a shred of evidence to back it up.The cast iron facts are that City offered him an improved contract on several occasions which he declined each time. They did that because he was and is a fantastic player despite his shortcomings in front of goal. Raz was a key part of Pep's system for all this time here and is a great acquisition for a rival club. Unlike the ingrates on this board Pep and the vast majority of City fans would undoubtedly be a lot happier if he were still here.john@staustell wrote:johnny crossan wrote:We could have had both but it was Sterling's call we haven't. Pep wanted him to stay - there is no absolutey doubt about that - and our current squad would be significantly improved if he were still in it. No doubt about that either. Finally, he's not been replaced by Haaland or by Alvarez that is a totally false equivalence and nobody in their right mind would think there was ever a choice between either or both of them and Raz. To suggest there was is just another baseless attack on a star quality City player who was an integral part of our success for the seven years he was with us.Outcast wrote:Lets put it to bed. Sterling was alright, didn't do too shabby for us. If you still in doubt whether we should have sold him or not, put simply, who would you rather had in the champions League final vs Chelsea when we desperately needed a game changer, Haaland or Sterling?? Or even Alvarez Vs Sterling?
If you think Sterling, I suggest you get professional help
I think there's a lot of doubt about it JC. I think he stayed so long despite his faults not because of his brilliance. Pep'll be very glad with the summer dealings IMHO
johnny crossan wrote:john@staustell wrote:johnny crossan wrote:We could have had both but it was Sterling's call we haven't. Pep wanted him to stay - there is no absolutey doubt about that - and our current squad would be significantly improved if he were still in it. No doubt about that either. Finally, he's not been replaced by Haaland or by Alvarez that is a totally false equivalence and nobody in their right mind would think there was ever a choice between either or both of them and Raz. To suggest there was is just another baseless attack on a star quality City player who was an integral part of our success for the seven years he was with us.Outcast wrote:Lets put it to bed. Sterling was alright, didn't do too shabby for us. If you still in doubt whether we should have sold him or not, put simply, who would you rather had in the champions League final vs Chelsea when we desperately needed a game changer, Haaland or Sterling?? Or even Alvarez Vs Sterling?
If you think Sterling, I suggest you get professional help
I think there's a lot of doubt about it JC. I think he stayed so long despite his faults not because of his brilliance. Pep'll be very glad with the summer dealings IMHO
That is really cheap & empty shot with not a shred of evidence to back it up.The cast iron facts are that City offered him an improved contract on several occasions which he declined each time. They did that because he was and is a fantastic player despite his shortcomings in front of goal. Raz was a key part of Pep's system for all this time here and is a great acquisition for a rival club. Unlike the ingrates on this board Pep and the vast majority of City fans would undoubtedly be a lot happier if he were still here.
Or perhaps his alleged poor form was the direct result of the lack of a decent finisher in front of goal. With his pace down the right hand side he would be providing Haaland with many more scoring chances than he's getting currently from the likes of Mahrez for sure.PeterParker wrote:Maybe Sterling's decline was caused by the fact he is so far up his own arse he didn't see him form was not right.
johnny crossan wrote:That is really cheap & empty shot with not a shred of evidence to back it up.The cast iron facts are that City offered him an improved contract on several occasions which he declined each time. They did that because he was and is a fantastic player despite his shortcomings in front of goal. Raz was a key part of Pep's system for all this time here and is a great acquisition for a rival club. Unlike the ingrates on this board Pep and the vast majority of City fans would undoubtedly be a lot happier if he were still here.john@staustell wrote:johnny crossan wrote:We could have had both but it was Sterling's call we haven't. Pep wanted him to stay - there is no absolutey doubt about that - and our current squad would be significantly improved if he were still in it. No doubt about that either. Finally, he's not been replaced by Haaland or by Alvarez that is a totally false equivalence and nobody in their right mind would think there was ever a choice between either or both of them and Raz. To suggest there was is just another baseless attack on a star quality City player who was an integral part of our success for the seven years he was with us.Outcast wrote:Lets put it to bed. Sterling was alright, didn't do too shabby for us. If you still in doubt whether we should have sold him or not, put simply, who would you rather had in the champions League final vs Chelsea when we desperately needed a game changer, Haaland or Sterling?? Or even Alvarez Vs Sterling?
If you think Sterling, I suggest you get professional help
I think there's a lot of doubt about it JC. I think he stayed so long despite his faults not because of his brilliance. Pep'll be very glad with the summer dealings IMHO
None of that is relevant in the slightest - he was guilty of all the things you list but Pep was gutted to lose him and our massive loss is the Chavs gain. He and everybody with eyes to see all know we would be a far stronger team if he were still with us - nobody in the squad can offer anywhere near the same destructive pace on the flanks or on turnovers now.john@staustell wrote:johnny crossan wrote:john@staustell wrote:johnny crossan wrote:We could have had both but it was Sterling's call we haven't. Pep wanted him to stay - there is no absolutey doubt about that - and our current squad would be significantly improved if he were still in it. No doubt about that either. Finally, he's not been replaced by Haaland or by Alvarez that is a totally false equivalence and nobody in their right mind would think there was ever a choice between either or both of them and Raz. To suggest there was is just another baseless attack on a star quality City player who was an integral part of our success for the seven years he was with us.Outcast wrote:Lets put it to bed. Sterling was alright, didn't do too shabby for us. If you still in doubt whether we should have sold him or not, put simply, who would you rather had in the champions League final vs Chelsea when we desperately needed a game changer, Haaland or Sterling?? Or even Alvarez Vs Sterling?
If you think Sterling, I suggest you get professional help
I think there's a lot of doubt about it JC. I think he stayed so long despite his faults not because of his brilliance. Pep'll be very glad with the summer dealings IMHO
That is really cheap & empty shot with not a shred of evidence to back it up.The cast iron facts are that City offered him an improved contract on several occasions which he declined each time. They did that because he was and is a fantastic player despite his shortcomings in front of goal. Raz was a key part of Pep's system for all this time here and is a great acquisition for a rival club. Unlike the ingrates on this board Pep and the vast majority of City fans would undoubtedly be a lot happier if he were still here.
We can all see what pep is like every time someone fucks up. One of his worst hates is people losing the ball. One of Razza's specialities was a) running into a defender, b) misplacing a final pass or c) simply falling on his arse, with monotonous regularity - all of these mean losing the ball. This is all aside from his amazing tendency to miss open goals and one on ones with a freakish regularity more than the law of averages.
No, we had past our Razza phase, moved on, we are a better squad. And that all added to his staggering absence of self-awareness. As you rightly say we have no idea what was offered. Certainly not an offer he couldn't refuse and, in among his snipes at the club, was one about regretting he had to move his kids - and presumably his fish tank - to London.
Neither you nor I have a scooby about what he was offered, just that it was an improved deal. It's not true that players are always offered a new contract either and although Pep says he's happy he's also said he wanted to keep Raz, which would clearly have made him happier. If all you can hear at the ground is complaints about Raz perhaps you should turn up your hearing aid or change your seat - maybe try to recall the crowd reaction after his cross to Gundo for first goal against Villa which led to us be champions for the 5th time in his career here.stupot wrote:johnny crossan wrote:That is really cheap & empty shot with not a shred of evidence to back it up.The cast iron facts are that City offered him an improved contract on several occasions which he declined each time. They did that because he was and is a fantastic player despite his shortcomings in front of goal. Raz was a key part of Pep's system for all this time here and is a great acquisition for a rival club. Unlike the ingrates on this board Pep and the vast majority of City fans would undoubtedly be a lot happier if he were still here.john@staustell wrote:johnny crossan wrote:We could have had both but it was Sterling's call we haven't. Pep wanted him to stay - there is no absolutey doubt about that - and our current squad would be significantly improved if he were still in it. No doubt about that either. Finally, he's not been replaced by Haaland or by Alvarez that is a totally false equivalence and nobody in their right mind would think there was ever a choice between either or both of them and Raz. To suggest there was is just another baseless attack on a star quality City player who was an integral part of our success for the seven years he was with us.Outcast wrote:Lets put it to bed. Sterling was alright, didn't do too shabby for us. If you still in doubt whether we should have sold him or not, put simply, who would you rather had in the champions League final vs Chelsea when we desperately needed a game changer, Haaland or Sterling?? Or even Alvarez Vs Sterling?
If you think Sterling, I suggest you get professional help
I think there's a lot of doubt about it JC. I think he stayed so long despite his faults not because of his brilliance. Pep'll be very glad with the summer dealings IMHO
We offered him a contract but he wanted parity with De Bruyne and that was never going to happen. We'd always offer a contract because you're in a far healthier position if you want to sell. There's definitely evidence Pep is delighted with the summer dealings because he's said so.
Also when you talk about the "vast majority" of City fans where's your evidence for that. All i heard at the ground for the last 2 years were complaints about him, and it's the same with all the fan accounts on social media.
Better team with him in it is the way to look at it, that's the way Pep would see it anyway - he must be on the same drugs as me and most City supporters.Nick wrote:Worst team without sterling ? I'll have some of those drugs. He missed sitters and ran into trouble again last night, but scored a tap in.
sorry, quite right - only 4 PLs + 5 L Cups & 1 FA Cupstupot wrote:4 not 5.
johnny crossan wrote:sorry, quite right - only 4 PLs + 5 L Cups & 1 FA Cupstupot wrote:4 not 5.
johnny crossan wrote:Better team with him in it is the way to look at it, that's the way Pep would see it anyway - he must be on the same drugs as me and most City supporters.Nick wrote:Worst team without sterling ? I'll have some of those drugs. He missed sitters and ran into trouble again last night, but scored a tap in.
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