I actually want rid now

[The Man In Blue]

Can't really answer this question now. I like Bob, I really really want him to be the man, even though a good few of his decisions seem very questionable to me (BELLAMY) - but i've felt the same about most City managers.

Lets see where we are in may eh.

[Blue Since 76]

foreign managers can work - wenger, mourinho. They can also fail badly - ramos, scholari. Mancini seems to fall somewhere between the two and perhaps that's the problem - city fans need highs and lows, not mediocrity. Maybe it's just me, but I'd happily take a league win followed by a relegation, just for the buzz. Boring our way to 4th is like methadone

[The Man In Blue]

Btw - I said the same as my above post about Hughes, and got called a "Licker" because of it.

WHY IS IT DIFFERENT NOW?

[Dunnylad]

Sacking him now would be utterly ridiculous & probably ensure we miss a cup final. Just as ridiculous as giving him the job in the 1st place with a semi final approaching. Now, as it should have been then, any decisions should be made after the season finishes.

Possibly but there's always a chance of us experiencing a touch of 'new manager syndrome' if we were to sack him now. In view of our results since Xmas, which are virtually relegation form, perhaps the added impetus of a new manager with new ideas might give these players the kick up the arse they need. As for who we'd get, well that's another story.

The "new manager" syndrome carries no guarantee of working and at this stage of the season would be pure madness. We need to hang in now with what we have until the end of the season, he won't go (unless he walks) until the Summer. For one I agree with those who say we have to stop with this hiring and firing malarkey, unless someone can guarantee me that the next man through the door will be better than Mancini then I say stick with him - there's no point crying over Hughes / Sven they've been and gone and you (we) should never go back.

I do wonder if the money doesn't help, the huge price tags are just more expensive mistakes that City managers have always made over the years (From Marsh, Daley, Bradbury and countless others). Balotelli has talent but nothing between his ears, yet this place was waxing lyrical over him when we bought him, same goes for Kolarov who had the You-tube clip brigade out in force - no one seems willing to give players or management time. If they are the wrong players or if Mancini is the wrong manager, then fine get rid now, but there is no quick fix, no silver bullet, no magical key, absolutely no cast iron guarantees that the next person who walks in through the revolving door will turn us into trophy contenders. Imagine if we played more attractive football and finished midtable and were still no closer to a trophy..I was 6 when we lost the FA Cup Final to Spurs, I wasn't even 1 the last year we won a trophy (not including play-off / championship trophies!), I'm sick of hearing rag relatives going on about their bl**dy successes - I want to see us win something and never thought we'd ever come close to that moment...and we are tantalisingly close...in fact I'd go so far as to say that if we bored everyone to death and won the FA Cup and finished 4th, then this would be my happiest year watching City - KK era football was great as the was the pre-Christmas Sven era, but what did it deliver? Nothing, no trophies, no addition to our legacy, just a memory - I trust the board to stand a lot firmer over Mancini than they did over Hughes, after all the latter was not their appointment - Rednose started with the FA Cup, I've got my blue tinted, blind faith glasses on with my fingers and toes crossed so hard I'll end up with arthritis, but I don't care if Mancini can deliver just one lovely silver trophy...

[avoidconfusion]

I am as much for stability as anyone else... but the issue I have with Mancini is that I cannot see his tactics changing... ever... I fear he will ALWAYS play this boring shit.

I wish he would grow some fucking balls as I said in another threat and GO for it. Fuck we looked more dangerous under Sven with a host of shite players than we look now at times and look at the players we got.

Something has to change, either the way Mancini sets us up and has us play or he has to go imho... the direction we are heading we ain't gonna finish 4th again this season and we sure as hell won't beat the Rags in the Semi Final of the FA cup.

The only silver lining I see is that we have some time off now and the players can rest so we don't have to listen to this "the players are tired" bullshit anymore.

The problem I see with sacking Mancini is.... who do you bring in then? And please don't give me fucking Frank Rijkard he is no better than Mancini.

And most important of all... what will be the players' reaction if the manager changes again... the new manager will again struggle to keep them under control, will probably want to get rid of number of them, will probably want to bring his own players in again too... the only manager that I could see that come in and get instant respect from all the players without any questions asked would a manager of the caliber of Mourinjo or Wenger. Yes Arsenal are bottling it again but say what you want Wenger is doing a good thing there and they play exciting football.

Either way, I don't believe Mourinho (or Wenger) would come here... and if Mourinho came I would constantly be worried that he would fuck off again after a season or two or as soon as Baconface retires.

[Dunnylad]

And most important of all... what will be the players' reaction if the manager changes again... the new manager will again struggle to keep them under control, will probably want to get rid of number of them, will probably want to bring his own players in again too.

And who would want them based on the wages they are all on? It's been a nightmare to ship out Bridge, RSC et al and even they are going to boomerang back at some point, unless either we pay them off or they agree to a cut in their salary.

[Im_Spartacus]

And most important of all... what will be the players' reaction if the manager changes again... the new manager will again struggle to keep them under control, will probably want to get rid of number of them, will probably want to bring his own players in again too.

And who would want them based on the wages they are all on? It's been a nightmare to ship out Bridge, RSC et al and even they are going to boomerang back at some point, unless either we pay them off or they agree to a cut in their salary.

Well hows about a new concept. A manager who is brought in to manage the players he inherits.

Funny, it has worked before.

[Dunnylad]

And most important of all... what will be the players' reaction if the manager changes again... the new manager will again struggle to keep them under control, will probably want to get rid of number of them, will probably want to bring his own players in again too.

And who would want them based on the wages they are all on? It's been a nightmare to ship out Bridge, RSC et al and even they are going to boomerang back at some point, unless either we pay them off or they agree to a cut in their salary.

Well hows about a new concept. A manager who is brought in to manage the players he inherits.

Funny, it has worked before.

a) it will never happen at City now we are bankrolled, managers will expect a huge transfer budget no matter what they are told and if they don't get those promises then we'd better lower our sights from the likes of Mourinho (not convinced he'll come anyway) to Allardyce

b) Sticking my neck on the line, where has a manager inherited players and become successful without players leaving or coming in?

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Getting rid now is unthinkable. I just listened to the after match interview given by David Platt and I trust what he said is true that there is total confidence that we will stay in the top 4 to the end of the season.It is essential that they retain that confidence.

He also used a phrase used at half time about being braver and that to me is also very important. Strange that it seemed to be that in the 2nd half today we were the opposite of braver as we went more into a defending shell. We do need to show a greater appetite to win a game rather than hold what we have and IF we get lucky nick a goal.How many times did Micah go past the full back today?He seems at times to be a barometer on how much we want to win a game.

Some of the pictutes on MotD 2 tonight said a lot.When they stopped the camera we often had 10 players behind the ball ( th 11th was close).Fair enough if we are under pressure and maybe also if we really could break quickly but neither is/was the case today.

[Ted Hughes]

If by being 'braver', he means attacking more, that suggests the plan is not being implemented by the players. I would suggest that's a direct result of having a squad full of centre midfield players with no pace or trickery & 6ft centre forwards.

If Bob is still in a job next season, I suggest signing some players to give us back the kind of variety of attacking options he had when he took over. Then, the players may be 'braver'.

[Alioune DVToure]

If Spurs get past Real Madrid, my arsehole will be twitchier than Redknapp's face.

I'm down over the result as we might need to finish 3rd come the end of the season.

But please, no more changes of manager.

[john68]

Since hitting the bottom spot in the 1979-80 season...we have employed:
Allison, Book, Bond, Benson, McNeill, Frizzell, Machin, Book (again), Kendall, Reid, Book (yet again), Horton, Ball, Hartford, Coppell, Neal, Clark, Royle, Keegan, Pearce, Eriksson, Hughes and now Mancini.....

Not to worry lads...there are still plenty of out of work managers left that we can bring in over the next 30 odd years.

Not wishing to rub it in but I have actually seen City win the league, the FA Cup, the Charity Shield. the League Cup and the European Cup Winners.
What have most of you lot seen City win?...FUCK ALL!!!...and you still want to play on the merry go round that caused your barren spell.

It beggers belief.

[ant london]

I absolutely don't want to get rid now, or at the end of the season.

Roberto I like very much as a character but as a manager he is, to my mind, just as flawed as our previous incumbent. He's pretty good most of the time but when it counts he has failed time and again IMO.

What I do not want is more upheaval. I want us to be patient and stick with a manager and actually let hom build something rather than piss around with someone else's construction project, stick an extension and conservatory on and then someone decides to rip up the blueprint and start again. I'm more sick of that shitty cycle than I currently am of Roberto Mancini.

Hardly a glowing endorsement but will do for me

[Slim]

Since hitting the bottom spot in the 1979-80 season...we have employed:
Allison, Book, Bond, Benson, McNeill, Frizzell, Machin, Book (again), Kendall, Reid, Book (yet again), Horton, Ball, Hartford, Coppell, Neal, Clark, Royle, Keegan, Pearce, Eriksson, Hughes and now Mancini.....

Not to worry lads...there are still plenty of out of work managers left that we can bring in over the next 30 odd years.

Not wishing to rub it in but I have actually seen City win the league, the FA Cup, the Charity Shield. the League Cup and the European Cup Winners.
What have most of you lot seen City win?...FUCK ALL!!!...and you still want to play on the merry go round that caused your barren spell.

It beggers belief.

Your needle is stuck.

Can you please posts all the replies that showed your post was full of shit as well, as you added the fact that you have seen us win a bunch of cups and we haven't, I would just like to point out that I have seen someone fly a plane, therefore I must know how it's done. I've seen brain surgery, looks a doddle. Seen a movie? Call me Slim Scorsese. See where I am going with this? Just because you have seen it done, doesn't mean you know fuck all about the mechanics of how it was done.

Nor does it mean that sticking with the wrong man year after year is the only ingredient in the recipe for success. You thinking such makes me believe you have lost your one remaining marble and maybe it's time we found you a home.

[DoomMerchant]

Poor poor poor,Mancini is on VERY thin ice. IMHO.

i believe he's actually finished unless he wins the FA Cup...not a fuclin chance this tosser is getting this team into the top 4. He might be able to bullshit his way into one more season if he wins the FA Cup....that's even 50/50 imho.

we're so fucking anemic, and he has to take "credit" for sending Bellamy, Adebayor out the door and not finding ANY, fuclin ANY creative midfield cover in two transfer windows. Sure, Silva was a gem to get last summer, but he had to know, esp. with how preseason went, that he needed one more and he didn't get it!!

i watched the preseason bollocks in NYC and Baltimore...and honestly, the writing was on the wall then, and we've done naught to change it.

Mancini is a conservative, fearful manager who really is completely uninspiring. Today i was missing Mark Hughes and Bellamy on the counter so fuclin much. Hughes had his issues so i'm not getting all "revisionist licker" on all y'all, but SOMEONE, ANYONE who will have a fuclin go at teams would win me over. We have AJ, and Balo on the bench and we have goddam, fuclin goddam Milner wide FFS when MON proved that he could do such a job in the centre of midfield. What is Mancini seeing that we aren't? the lineup almost writes itself on a day like today...and Mancini bottled it, as per when it comes to a big side.

This is exactly why the goddam fuclin Italians were fucking Axis powers in WWII. Not a joke.

shambolic.

also, cheers.

[Blue Since 76]

Since hitting the bottom spot in the 1979-80 season...we have employed:
Allison, Book, Bond, Benson, McNeill, Frizzell, Machin, Book (again), Kendall, Reid, Book (yet again), Horton, Ball, Hartford, Coppell, Neal, Clark, Royle, Keegan, Pearce, Eriksson, Hughes and now Mancini.....

Not to worry lads...there are still plenty of out of work managers left that we can bring in over the next 30 odd years.

Not wishing to rub it in but I have actually seen City win the league, the FA Cup, the Charity Shield. the League Cup and the European Cup Winners.
What have most of you lot seen City win?...FUCK ALL!!!...and you still want to play on the merry go round that caused your barren spell.

It beggers belief.

Whilst it's a lot of managers, which of them went on to win something elsewhere? I think the answer's none. If we'd kept Clark et al, would we now be European chapions?

As I've said before, we're pretty good at spotting a shit manager and sacking them. Unfortunately, we're not very good at realising they're shit before we hire them.

[Piccsnumberoneblue]

In the last week Mancini has embarrassed us again. The old problems resurfaced.
1) Mario being fucking crackers.
2) Not showing up in any attacking capacity for a big game.
And it is shameful.
And entirely predictable.

Ant made a comment that he wants Mancini to succeed more than he wants him sacking, and I still fall into this category. But there must be a point when you decide he isn't going to make it happen.
Who knows, gub the filth at Wembley and cobble five results together and we've achieved our objectives. But it sure doesn't feel like that is going to happen at the mo.

[Hazy2]

Fans have no choice but to support I agree with the thoughts on our negative tactics, however the Chelsea manager was 6 weeks
ago awaiting the sack. I don't want a new manager it is almost as bad a thought as our tactics. Lets hope he has a plan.......

[david yearsley]

Far from having a plan he´s beginning to look like Rafa Mk II - Scouse put up with it until it was too late. I sincerely hope Bob is not the reincarnation of the fat waiter

[dick dastardley]

you cant keep playing like that away from home and keep your job, fans who went there yesterday should get refund, play like that against the scummers and its no trophy and no 4th spot if we play against the bin dippers.
0=0 are no good for us now we need wins otherwise Mancini will be on his bike in the summer