***West Ham v Champions Official Match Thread***

[Mase]

Reading some here It's hard to understand which is worse: going into meltdown or supporting Scouse.

We are talking about media and living in weird world, but we point at fans that express their concern and call them negative because what? THEY CARE ABOUT THE CLUB?

Why the fuck would anyone be concerned if it's not about being better, moving forward and win the fucking league?

Imho, if we win the league on Sunday, it will be our worst winning display in the new era. I will celebrate as always, but I will know that we were far from our best, that we are at the end of a cycle and some players fucked up big time. It's not being negative, it's not going into meltdown, it's just expressing my concerns regarding the club I love.

I am not the type that Shrugs his shoulders and moves on when we lose by shooting our own foot on multiple occasions.

Some people are having a meltdown because people care for the club and show that in pessimism and being worried. Doesn’t make anyone a better or worse supporter. Each to their own.

[Original Dub]

Exactly mase.

Let's all enjoy this week in our own special way.

[Sparklehorse]

Exactly mase.

Let's all enjoy this week in our own special way.

Mine is being spent mostly on the toilet

[stupot]

Reading some here It's hard to understand which is worse: going into meltdown or supporting Scouse.

We are talking about media and living in weird world, but we point at fans that express their concern and call them negative because what? THEY CARE ABOUT THE CLUB?

Why the fuck would anyone be concerned if it's not about being better, moving forward and win the fucking league?

Imho, if we win the league on Sunday, it will be our worst winning display in the new era. I will celebrate as always, but I will know that we were far from our best, that we are at the end of a cycle and some players fucked up big time. It's not being negative, it's not going into meltdown, it's just expressing my concerns regarding the club I love.

I am not the type that Shrugs his shoulders and moves on when we lose by shooting our own foot on multiple occasions.

If we win the league on Sunday it will be our 3rd best winning display in the new era.
2018 100 pts, 2019 98 pts, 2022 93 points with a win.

[PeterParker]

Reading some here It's hard to understand which is worse: going into meltdown or supporting Scouse.

We are talking about media and living in weird world, but we point at fans that express their concern and call them negative because what? THEY CARE ABOUT THE CLUB?

Why the fuck would anyone be concerned if it's not about being better, moving forward and win the fucking league?

Imho, if we win the league on Sunday, it will be our worst winning display in the new era. I will celebrate as always, but I will know that we were far from our best, that we are at the end of a cycle and some players fucked up big time. It's not being negative, it's not going into meltdown, it's just expressing my concerns regarding the club I love.

I am not the type that Shrugs his shoulders and moves on when we lose by shooting our own foot on multiple occasions.

If we win the league on Sunday it will be our 3rd best winning display in the new era.
2018 100 pts, 2019 98 pts, 2022 93 points with a win.

Yep, but gamewise, IMHO, not our best since the winter break. This last few we were good, but we looked off in many moments the whole season. Lacked the hunger, won it because of how good we are, if you ask me.
We've become accustomed to a certain level of football.

We are blessed.

[Mase]

Exactly mase.

Let's all enjoy this week in our own special way.

If Southampton win or draw tonight I’ll be enjoying it from now until Monday in my own special way - which will be saying goodbye to the Mrs and getting on it.

[stupot]

Exactly mase.

Let's all enjoy this week in our own special way.

If Southampton win or draw tonight I’ll be enjoying it from now until Monday in my own special way - which will be saying goodbye to the Mrs and getting on it.

There's a chance if Milner plays, think of all those free kicks he'll concede for Ward Prowse to convert.

[Original Dub]

Exactly mase.

Let's all enjoy this week in our own special way.

If Southampton win or draw tonight I’ll be enjoying it from now until Monday in my own special way - which will be saying goodbye to the Mrs and getting on it.

You and me both. I wouldn't rule it out...

[Bluemoon4610]

Exactly mase.

Let's all enjoy this week in our own special way.

If Southampton win or draw tonight I’ll be enjoying it from now until Monday in my own special way - which will be saying goodbye to the Mrs and getting on it.

There's a chance if Milner plays, think of all those free kicks he'll concede for Ward Prowse to convert.

So the ref is going to penalise the dipper fouls tonight? That'd make a pleasant change!!!

[gmercer1]

Exactly mase.

Let's all enjoy this week in our own special way.

If Southampton win or draw tonight I’ll be enjoying it from now until Monday in my own special way - which will be saying goodbye to the Mrs and getting on it.

There's a chance if Milner plays, think of all those free kicks he'll concede for Ward Prowse to convert.

So the ref is going to penalise the dipper fouls tonight? That'd make a pleasant change!!!

Not a chance! Milner will be allowed to kick everyone to fuck and not a single foul will be given

[Hazy2]

Liverpools feeder team !

[Harry Dowd scored]

Exactly mase.

Let's all enjoy this week in our own special way.

If Southampton win or draw tonight I’ll be enjoying it from now until Monday in my own special way - which will be saying goodbye to the Mrs and getting on it.

There's a chance if Milner plays, think of all those free kicks he'll concede for Ward Prowse to convert.

So the ref is going to penalise the dipper fouls tonight? That'd make a pleasant change!!!

Not a chance! Milner will be allowed to kick everyone to fuck and not a single foul will be given

Absolutely spot on! That’s exactly what the little twat did at Newcastle, even the goal came from Milner committing a foul, that should have been yellow card, but was not given and dippers scored from the run of the play that followed. Totally bent, everyone who saw that knew it was a yellow card, yet not even a foul given.
Robertson week after week is allowed to kick fuck out of opponents but fuck all is ever given, it’s a miracle we are still top given the amount of obstacles we have to overcome.

[stupot]

I'm not saying they'll concede a pen- they're the only PL team not to have had one against them this season.
They'll have the odd free kick given against them and funnily enough last season Saints won 1-0 from a free kickj.

[Tokyo Blue]

Exactly mase.

Let's all enjoy this week in our own special way.

If Southampton win or draw tonight I’ll be enjoying it from now until Monday in my own special way - which will be saying goodbye to the Mrs and getting on it.

Got a feeling they are going to do it, you know.

[Original Dub]

Exactly mase.

Let's all enjoy this week in our own special way.

If Southampton win or draw tonight I’ll be enjoying it from now until Monday in my own special way - which will be saying goodbye to the Mrs and getting on it.

Got a feeling they are going to do it, you know.

They're a really hard team to predict are the Saints. Between them and Wolves, you just never know what you're going to get. Which makes it all the more baffling why all the talk is about us playing the mighty Villa and none is about those two bogey teams.

[london blue 2]

Liverpool will hammer them by 3 or 4.

[nottsblue]

Liverpool will hammer them by 3 or 4.

I’ve gone 4-0
Can’t see past anything other than a dippers win sadly

But football is a funny old game as they say

[john68]

Reading some here It's hard to understand which is worse: going into meltdown or supporting Scouse.

We are talking about media and living in weird world, but we point at fans that express their concern and call them negative because what? THEY CARE ABOUT THE CLUB?

Why the fuck would anyone be concerned if it's not about being better, moving forward and win the fucking league?

Imho, if we win the league on Sunday, it will be our worst winning display in the new era. I will celebrate as always, but I will know that we were far from our best, that we are at the end of a cycle and some players fucked up big time. It's not being negative, it's not going into meltdown, it's just expressing my concerns regarding the club I love.

I am not the type that Shrugs his shoulders and moves on when we lose by shooting our own foot on multiple occasions.

If we win the league on Sunday it will be our 3rd best winning display in the new era.
2018 100 pts, 2019 98 pts, 2022 93 points with a win.

Yep, but gamewise, IMHO, not our best since the winter break. This last few we were good, but we looked off in many moments the whole season. Lacked the hunger, won it because of how good we are, if you ask me.
We've become accustomed to a certain level of football.

We are blessed.

Maybe, therein lies the problem mate.
Not that we have become accustomed to a certain level of football but that we now demand a certain level of football, every week, sometimes twice a week for long periods and we demand that level to last for the full season.
It has never happened in the history of football.
No matter how successful any team,any season, they have played between a top level and a lower level. The lower level of the top clubs usually, but not always, higher than the top level of the lower clubs.

We have been the most successful club in the Prem over the last decade but each season has its highs and its lows. We have started poorly, then gone on long runs of success. We have dipped in the middle of the season and come good again...that's the way it is and aleways has been.

Any dip in that top level is hammered by fans with little or no consideration of the situation at the time. The Wet Spam game was a prime example. We have just finished a run of the hardest games we have had to endure fo a long time. We looked leggy and lacked the necessary energy in the 1st half, but it was the mental strength of our players that lifted them to fight back to the end. That should be applauded. We have a team that may lose but we knbow that they are always up for the fight. The Madrid loss could have destroyed us, but it didn't, we came back a couple of days later and battered the life out of Wolves.

Add to that, we played a very good Wet Spam side who had something to play for and they resally did play for it. We played that very good well rested Wet Spam side with little recovery time, little preparation time and with a makeshift defensive line comprising some players who were obviously not fully fit or out of position.
That's a game we really were set up to lose.

There is an ol saying that "Britain didn't win WW2, it just refused to lose it." That mentality is embedded in our players. It is a major reason that no matter what the level of our performance, we will always fight to the end.

[PeterParker]

Reading some here It's hard to understand which is worse: going into meltdown or supporting Scouse.

We are talking about media and living in weird world, but we point at fans that express their concern and call them negative because what? THEY CARE ABOUT THE CLUB?

Why the fuck would anyone be concerned if it's not about being better, moving forward and win the fucking league?

Imho, if we win the league on Sunday, it will be our worst winning display in the new era. I will celebrate as always, but I will know that we were far from our best, that we are at the end of a cycle and some players fucked up big time. It's not being negative, it's not going into meltdown, it's just expressing my concerns regarding the club I love.

I am not the type that Shrugs his shoulders and moves on when we lose by shooting our own foot on multiple occasions.

If we win the league on Sunday it will be our 3rd best winning display in the new era.
2018 100 pts, 2019 98 pts, 2022 93 points with a win.

Yep, but gamewise, IMHO, not our best since the winter break. This last few we were good, but we looked off in many moments the whole season. Lacked the hunger, won it because of how good we are, if you ask me.
We've become accustomed to a certain level of football.

We are blessed.

Maybe, therein lies the problem mate.
Not that we have become accustomed to a certain level of football but that we now demand a certain level of football, every week, sometimes twice a week for long periods and we demand that level to last for the full season.
It has never happened in the history of football.
No matter how successful any team,any season, they have played between a top level and a lower level. The lower level of the top clubs usually, but not always, higher than the top level of the lower clubs.

We have been the most successful club in the Prem over the last decade but each season has its highs and its lows. We have started poorly, then gone on long runs of success. We have dipped in the middle of the season and come good again...that's the way it is and aleways has been.

Any dip in that top level is hammered by fans with little or no consideration of the situation at the time. The Wet Spam game was a prime example. We have just finished a run of the hardest games we have had to endure fo a long time. We looked leggy and lacked the necessary energy in the 1st half, but it was the mental strength of our players that lifted them to fight back to the end. That should be applauded. We have a team that may lose but we knbow that they are always up for the fight. The Madrid loss could have destroyed us, but it didn't, we came back a couple of days later and battered the life out of Wolves.

Add to that, we played a very good Wet Spam side who had something to play for and they resally did play for it. We played that very good well rested Wet Spam side with little recovery time, little preparation time and with a makeshift defensive line comprising some players who were obviously not fully fit or out of position.
That's a game we really were set up to lose.

There is an ol saying that "Britain didn't win WW2, it just refused to lose it." That mentality is embedded in our players. It is a major reason that no matter what the level of our performance, we will always fight to the end.

Can't argue with all of that, John. You are spot on.
But there is something that really annoys me and that's our way of losing games. I can't recall a single game when the opponents were better and we've lost by them being superior (in the title winning seasons under Pep). It was either bent decisions, player fuckups or managerial brainfarts.
We cannot fix the refs, it's impossible, but we can stop the fuck ups.

That's my only desire, that is why I criticize.
It's amazing as good as we are, we can be even better if we just fix some small things.