iwasthere2012 wrote:Only last weekend it was all Benitez to City in the Irish Rag Tops. Now it's Klopp. Somebody else by this weekend no doubt.
Hutch's Shoulder wrote:Good to see the forum getting back to form after the recent disappointments!
Anyway, back to Klopp ..... I would be happy to see him, especially if he could adjust the team to play like Dortmund did at the Etihad a couple of years ago, but I do not expect him to come to us; he may want more control than he would get here and he doesn't seem to fit our recent profile. As for his bad year this year, well, sometimes managers (not just football managers) do stay in an organisation too long and lose the edge.
TomS wrote:This Klopp retirement on the same day the Hamburger SV brings in his 4th Manager of the season (and they´ll still go down) is the Topnews here in Germany, a big surprise. Also some commentators feeds the rumour mill with talks about "he´d had broken with parts of the Team" etc.
Football bible kicker wrote:
"Es ist nicht so, dass ich müde wäre. Tut mir leid, dass ich ab und zu so aussehe, aber das bin ich nicht", schloss er eine Auszeit aus: "Ich habe keinen Kontakt zu einem anderen Verein, nichts in der Hinterhand. Aber ich habe auch nicht vor, ein 'Sabbatical' zu machen." Worte, die man bei Englands Meister Manchester City, der seit längerem lose mit Klopp in Verbindung gebracht wird und wohl bereits einen Nachfolger für Manuel Pellegrini sucht, gerne vernommen haben wird.
"I´m not tired. Sorry, that I´m looking sometimes that way, but I aint. I have no contact to another Club, nothing. But I won´t do a Pep." Words well heard at Manchester City where they look out for a new Manager.....
Ted Hughes wrote:If Pep isn't on the horizon after next season, then Klopp is one of very few alternatives imo. Most managers imo are a downgrade on Mancini & Pellegrini. Klopp is potentially equal to or better than those two. Ancelotti, possibly DeBoer, Klopp, or promote Vieira.
Can't see much else other than those, if Pep isn't on the agenda. Frank Rijkaard maybe ?
If Pep is definitely lined up, the Count will probably get another season. Nothing else would make sense.
nottsblue wrote:A number of guys could be on our radar for our manager next season.
Klopp is one of them. He is now available. This is where the fellas at Ivory Towers need to earn their corn. Sound out who is and isn't available. None of this waiting for Pep for my money. No guarantee he would come at the end of it. I think a decision will be made in the summer for a permanent placement, not an interim. Sometimes timing and availability are the prominent factors.
I'd not be disapppointed with Klopp. But I also wouldn't cry if it was Ancelotti. Or Pep. Or a proper man manager. Or even Pellegrini.
Benitez though? Not on your fucking nelly
TomS wrote:This Klopp retirement on the same day the Hamburger SV brings in his 4th Manager of the season (and they´ll still go down) is the Topnews here in Germany, a big surprise. Also some commentators feeds the rumour mill with talks about "he´d had broken with parts of the Team" etc.
Football bible kicker wrote:
"Es ist nicht so, dass ich müde wäre. Tut mir leid, dass ich ab und zu so aussehe, aber das bin ich nicht", schloss er eine Auszeit aus: "Ich habe keinen Kontakt zu einem anderen Verein, nichts in der Hinterhand. Aber ich habe auch nicht vor, ein 'Sabbatical' zu machen." Worte, die man bei Englands Meister Manchester City, der seit längerem lose mit Klopp in Verbindung gebracht wird und wohl bereits einen Nachfolger für Manuel Pellegrini sucht, gerne vernommen haben wird.
"I´m not tired. Sorry, that I´m looking sometimes that way, but I aint. I have no contact to another Club, nothing. But I won´t do a Pep." Words well heard at Manchester City where they look out for a new Manager.....
nottsblue wrote:A number of guys could be on our radar for our manager next season.
Klopp is one of them. He is now available. This is where the fellas at Ivory Towers need to earn their corn. Sound out who is and isn't available. None of this waiting for Pep for my money. No guarantee he would come at the end of it. I think a decision will be made in the summer for a permanent placement, not an interim. Sometimes timing and availability are the prominent factors.
I'd not be disapppointed with Klopp. But I also wouldn't cry if it was Ancelotti. Or Pep. Or a proper man manager. Or even Pellegrini.
Benitez though? Not on your fucking nelly
Ted Hughes wrote:I very much doubt they will wait for Pep unless they know he is definitely coming.
If he is coming then I think it's the Count of Vieira for a season. Most likely the Count.
If Guardiola is coming, I'd put up with Phil Neal for a season, never mind the Count.
nottsblue wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I very much doubt they will wait for Pep unless they know he is definitely coming.
If he is coming then I think it's the Count of Vieira for a season. Most likely the Count.
If Guardiola is coming, I'd put up with Phil Neal for a season, never mind the Count.
But there is no such thing as guaranteed to be coming. If we want Pep, great, make him an offer he can't refuse. To come this summer though. No one can 100% say what they will do in a year. Family, health, raison d'être can all have an effect.
We could shaft ourselves for a year. Also, an interim appointment will be less likely to use the academy and maybe let players get away with more than they should. Why should a guy in a job for a year care as much as a guy who has the permanent job?
Ted Hughes wrote:nottsblue wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I very much doubt they will wait for Pep unless they know he is definitely coming.
If he is coming then I think it's the Count of Vieira for a season. Most likely the Count.
If Guardiola is coming, I'd put up with Phil Neal for a season, never mind the Count.
But there is no such thing as guaranteed to be coming. If we want Pep, great, make him an offer he can't refuse. To come this summer though. No one can 100% say what they will do in a year. Family, health, raison d'être can all have an effect.
We could shaft ourselves for a year. Also, an interim appointment will be less likely to use the academy and maybe let players get away with more than they should. Why should a guy in a job for a year care as much as a guy who has the permanent job?
That's why you keep the Count in those circumstances. Nothing else makes sense.
I think they have a great relationship with Pep & will know if he is planning to continue at Bayern after next season or if he wants to come to City. He will be offered a contract by Bayern. We will know if he signs it. I imagine Txiki already knows what Pep's plans are. Unless of course Pep gets dicked out of the CL. Then they might not offer him the deal. They turn faster than our lot, over there.
I recon City will know by summer, whether Pep is coming to City in 2016. If he's not interested at all, they will know already.
Bayern btw, have some club legends getting old together.
Pep may prefer to build here rather than there, where expectations are immense.
nottsblue wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:nottsblue wrote:Ted Hughes wrote:I very much doubt they will wait for Pep unless they know he is definitely coming.
If he is coming then I think it's the Count of Vieira for a season. Most likely the Count.
If Guardiola is coming, I'd put up with Phil Neal for a season, never mind the Count.
But there is no such thing as guaranteed to be coming. If we want Pep, great, make him an offer he can't refuse. To come this summer though. No one can 100% say what they will do in a year. Family, health, raison d'être can all have an effect.
We could shaft ourselves for a year. Also, an interim appointment will be less likely to use the academy and maybe let players get away with more than they should. Why should a guy in a job for a year care as much as a guy who has the permanent job?
That's why you keep the Count in those circumstances. Nothing else makes sense.
I think they have a great relationship with Pep & will know if he is planning to continue at Bayern after next season or if he wants to come to City. He will be offered a contract by Bayern. We will know if he signs it. I imagine Txiki already knows what Pep's plans are. Unless of course Pep gets dicked out of the CL. Then they might not offer him the deal. They turn faster than our lot, over there.
I recon City will know by summer, whether Pep is coming to City in 2016. If he's not interested at all, they will know already.
Bayern btw, have some club legends getting old together.
Pep may prefer to build here rather than there, where expectations are immense.
So hypothetically, in June 2016, he says "do you know what lads, my wife has decided she won't live in England, my kids are ill, thanks for that great offer, but I'm afraid I've got to say no", do we just have potentially written off a season? Of course, next year we may do well and win a pot or two. Do we then just get rid of that guy?
I get what you are saying, that he is worth waiting for, but I just think it's too risky
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