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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:50 pm

I think Barry is a much better player than Parker.

Hope that doesn't upset anyone.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Dameerto » Thu Nov 10, 2011 7:10 pm

Wooders wrote:hes an above average premier league midfielder

the fact that he is 30 and has only really ever been a key player at west ham & now Spurs says it all


Players can bloom late - look at Demba Ba and his record outside the Prem compared to his record in it.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Thu Nov 10, 2011 8:18 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:I think Barry is a much better player than Parker.

Hope that doesn't upset anyone.

Disagree. There's not much between them.
If KK loves his stats so much look at Spurs's records with and without Parker this season.
Besides Barry has only scored 1 goal aswell, must be equal to Parker. I mean everyone rates DM's on their goal tallies?
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:38 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I think Barry is a much better player than Parker.

Hope that doesn't upset anyone.

Disagree. There's not much between them.
If KK loves his stats so much look at Spurs's records with and without Parker this season.
Besides Barry has only scored 1 goal aswell, must be equal to Parker. I mean everyone rates DM's on their goal tallies?


Imo Parker is a watered down Gareth Barry. Steams into more tackles & probably wins more but only because he has to; Barry has already read it & fucked off with the ball two yards earlier.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby brite blu sky » Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:13 am

Anyone who cannot see the difference between Barry and Parker is basically wasting a good set of eyes, and should consider donating them to someone who could use them properly.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:22 am

Dameerto wrote:
Wooders wrote:hes an above average premier league midfielder

the fact that he is 30 and has only really ever been a key player at west ham & now Spurs says it all


Players can bloom late - look at Demba Ba and his record outside the Prem compared to his record in it.


bloom late? Ok, this might be bit controversial but I'd say Parker played his best football for Charlton.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Slim » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:33 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Dameerto wrote:
Wooders wrote:hes an above average premier league midfielder

the fact that he is 30 and has only really ever been a key player at west ham & now Spurs says it all


Players can bloom late - look at Demba Ba and his record outside the Prem compared to his record in it.


bloom late? Ok, this might be bit controversial but I'd say Parker played his best football for Charlton.


I'd agree with that, and then fucked up his career by signing for Chelsea.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:12 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I think Barry is a much better player than Parker.

Hope that doesn't upset anyone.

Disagree. There's not much between them.
If KK loves his stats so much look at Spurs's records with and without Parker this season.
Besides Barry has only scored 1 goal aswell, must be equal to Parker. I mean everyone rates DM's on their goal tallies?


Imo Parker is a watered down Gareth Barry. Steams into more tackles & probably wins more but only because he has to; Barry has already read it & fucked off with the ball two yards earlier.

Fair enough. But I still don't see the relevance of any of the OP's arguments. Why does it matter how many goals or assists he has? He probably has the same number as Barry.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:33 pm

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I think Barry is a much better player than Parker.

Hope that doesn't upset anyone.

Disagree. There's not much between them.
If KK loves his stats so much look at Spurs's records with and without Parker this season.
Besides Barry has only scored 1 goal aswell, must be equal to Parker. I mean everyone rates DM's on their goal tallies?


Imo Parker is a watered down Gareth Barry. Steams into more tackles & probably wins more but only because he has to; Barry has already read it & fucked off with the ball two yards earlier.

Fair enough. But I still don't see the relevance of any of the OP's arguments. Why does it matter how many goals or assists he has? He probably has the same number as Barry.


It's just a stat. You could use the same one when comparing Barry & DeJong to say, Ro* Ke*** his would be higher as he had more facets to his game. If Barry & Parker don't make assists then that's part of their game which is lacking, not a neccessary failing for a player in their job. It's worth mentioning when assessing a player.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby ronk » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:24 pm

Slim wrote:
I'd agree with that, and then fucked up his career by signing for Chelsea.


He got a massive pay bump going to Chelsea and has generally done well in terms of transfers. He had a spell on the bench but then got a great deal to play for Newcastle. He started more games for West Ham than he did for Charlton. Where are Charlton now?

He had a blip where he wasn't getting his game but he's millions better off and he has a rock-solid reputation.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:37 pm

Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I think Barry is a much better player than Parker.

Hope that doesn't upset anyone.

Disagree. There's not much between them.
If KK loves his stats so much look at Spurs's records with and without Parker this season.
Besides Barry has only scored 1 goal aswell, must be equal to Parker. I mean everyone rates DM's on their goal tallies?


Imo Parker is a watered down Gareth Barry. Steams into more tackles & probably wins more but only because he has to; Barry has already read it & fucked off with the ball two yards earlier.

Fair enough. But I still don't see the relevance of any of the OP's arguments. Why does it matter how many goals or assists he has? He probably has the same number as Barry.


It's just a stat. You could use the same one when comparing Barry & DeJong to say, Ro* Ke*** his would be higher as he had more facets to his game. If Barry & Parker don't make assists then that's part of their game which is lacking, not a neccessary failing for a player in their job. It's worth mentioning when assessing a player.

but it isn't. He's a defensive midfielder. He's not in the team to get goals so why mention it? It adds nothing to the argument. It's like lambasting a striker because the team let a goal in.
It's not a part of his game which is lacking because he doesn't need to get goals or assists. Spurs have plenty of players capabale of that and Parker is in the team to allow them to do so.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Beefymcfc » Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:50 pm

Above, no, strike that, average player who the media have a love for. Now he's at the perfect club for them to continue there wank-fest for all that is Scotty Parker.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Fri Nov 11, 2011 8:55 pm

Beefymcfc wrote:Above, no, strike that, average player who the media have a love for. Now he's at the perfect club for them to continue there wank-fest for all that is Scotty Parker.

Similar to the ignorant view other teams fans have of Barry. Just because he doesn't score a lot or do anything fancy they assume he's crap. Parker like Barry does the dirty work and simple stuff exceptionally well.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Sat Nov 12, 2011 5:47 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Above, no, strike that, average player who the media have a love for. Now he's at the perfect club for them to continue there wank-fest for all that is Scotty Parker.

Similar to the ignorant view other teams fans have of Barry. Just because he doesn't score a lot or do anything fancy they assume he's crap. Parker like Barry does the dirty work and simple stuff exceptionally well.


What a fucking arrogant view. You think you are the only one who understand what defensive/holding midfielder does?

You know what, I played in that very same position for about a decade in very decent youth level, being inches away from getting U17 national side back in the day. Now I'm not saying I was some fucking Patrick Vieira but I DO think I have basic understanding of the demands of that position.

So fuck your stupid media recycling comments of "people don't understand what he does for the team". Football isn't complicated game really and I'm sure most people who who follow football regularily, which you would assume is the case with most people here, do understand what Gareth Barry and Scott Parker are supposed to do to their respective teams. I must've seen Scott Parker play close to 100 times in his career. I've seen him live for Charlton, Newcastle and West Ham. And I'm saying he is slitghly above average Premier League defensive midfielder. That is my OPINION. You might disagree with that, it's a game of opinions, but there's nothing ignorant about my OPINION.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby zuricity » Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:08 am

I rather suspect that both Parker and Barry, if they play today , will be chasing shadows most of the time.

However this "defensive holding " role will be tested by the spanish.

Step up David Silva to steal the show and enable the media to tell us all that they were right all along about the brilliant squad city have.!
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Bridge'srightfoot » Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:35 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Above, no, strike that, average player who the media have a love for. Now he's at the perfect club for them to continue there wank-fest for all that is Scotty Parker.

Similar to the ignorant view other teams fans have of Barry. Just because he doesn't score a lot or do anything fancy they assume he's crap. Parker like Barry does the dirty work and simple stuff exceptionally well.


What a fucking arrogant view. You think you are the only one who understand what defensive/holding midfielder does?

You know what, I played in that very same position for about a decade in very decent youth level, being inches away from getting U17 national side back in the day. Now I'm not saying I was some fucking Patrick Vieira but I DO think I have basic understanding of the demands of that position.

So fuck your stupid media recycling comments of "people don't understand what he does for the team". Football isn't complicated game really and I'm sure most people who who follow football regularily, which you would assume is the case with most people here, do understand what Gareth Barry and Scott Parker are supposed to do to their respective teams. I must've seen Scott Parker play close to 100 times in his career. I've seen him live for Charlton, Newcastle and West Ham. And I'm saying he is slitghly above average Premier League defensive midfielder. That is my OPINION. You might disagree with that, it's a game of opinions, but there's nothing ignorant about my OPINION.

I wasn't referring to you personally.
What I'm saying is a lot of my non City friends tend to think Barry is a bit shit. It's only really City fans mainly who really rate him because we watch him week in week out. He's not a spectacular player who scores great goals or defence splitting passes consistently and therefore you're not gonna watch a few games of him and think 'what a brilliant player'.

Parker likewise does that for Spurs, and just look how much they have improved since he's been in the team.
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:04 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Above, no, strike that, average player who the media have a love for. Now he's at the perfect club for them to continue there wank-fest for all that is Scotty Parker.

Similar to the ignorant view other teams fans have of Barry. Just because he doesn't score a lot or do anything fancy they assume he's crap. Parker like Barry does the dirty work and simple stuff exceptionally well.

Ha ha ha, I see what you did there. But no, you're wrong. I take my views from what I see and for me they are 2 different players. The ignorance comes from people who believe all they are told by the media.

Did you think he was the PotY last season as well?
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Re: Is Scott Parker As Good As They Say? Really?

Postby Beefymcfc » Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:12 am

Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Bridge'srightfoot wrote:
Beefymcfc wrote:Above, no, strike that, average player who the media have a love for. Now he's at the perfect club for them to continue there wank-fest for all that is Scotty Parker.

Similar to the ignorant view other teams fans have of Barry. Just because he doesn't score a lot or do anything fancy they assume he's crap. Parker like Barry does the dirty work and simple stuff exceptionally well.


What a fucking arrogant view. You think you are the only one who understand what defensive/holding midfielder does?

You know what, I played in that very same position for about a decade in very decent youth level, being inches away from getting U17 national side back in the day. Now I'm not saying I was some fucking Patrick Vieira but I DO think I have basic understanding of the demands of that position.

So fuck your stupid media recycling comments of "people don't understand what he does for the team". Football isn't complicated game really and I'm sure most people who who follow football regularily, which you would assume is the case with most people here, do understand what Gareth Barry and Scott Parker are supposed to do to their respective teams. I must've seen Scott Parker play close to 100 times in his career. I've seen him live for Charlton, Newcastle and West Ham. And I'm saying he is slitghly above average Premier League defensive midfielder. That is my OPINION. You might disagree with that, it's a game of opinions, but there's nothing ignorant about my OPINION.

I wasn't referring to you personally.
What I'm saying is a lot of my non City friends tend to think Barry is a bit shit. It's only really City fans mainly who really rate him because we watch him week in week out. He's not a spectacular player who scores great goals or defence splitting passes consistently and therefore you're not gonna watch a few games of him and think 'what a brilliant player'.

Parker likewise does that for Spurs, and just look how much they have improved since he's been in the team.

And that's a load of horse-shit as well. I don't know who you are talking to but the majority of the people I talk to know that Barry is a quality player and it's more our fans who have held the opinion that he is slow and clumbersome, but still a good player.

Did the Villa fans want to see the back of him? Didn't the Dippers get pissed off when he changed allegiances?

I just wonder if these fans you talk to adorne themselves in red?
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