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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:18 pm

stupot wrote:Regarding the Pellers comparison - in Pellers 1st year when we won the league we scored 102 goals and got 86 points.
Last season in Pep's shit season we got 81 points, scored 102 goals and funnily enough with this horrendous defence that we called all season actually conceded less goals than in 13/14.

In Pellers last season we got 60 odd points and scraped the Champs League because the rags lost at West Ham.
The Champions League Semi that he got us to was an embarrassment home and away against Madrid. i spent a fortune going there and even though a 1-1 draw would have taken us through we didn't have a shot until the last few minutes.

Pep- 1st ever to get the 100 points.
1st ever to win the domestic treble.
Who knows what we'll finally achieve this year but i guarantee IF we do win the CL it won't stop him being slaughtered by some on here.


Pep with his billions spent hasn’t got past the QF - I’d say that’s more embarrassing than Pellers getting us to the SF with a much inferior team .

It’s been said , even by me , PeP is the best manager out there and I wouldn’t want him changed but let’s
not fucking pretend he is the “Only”manager to have had us playing entertaining football and breaking records eh !!

He just happens to have done those things better than previous managers .
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:18 pm

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Mase wrote:My main gripe with him is he takes too long to change it. Against West Ham it was obvious things needed changing and we needed some players with an engine. He took too long making a change but luckily we got away with it.

Apart from that I love the guy, now that he’s one of us and hates the media and UEFA.


But if you look at xG created we are usually on top. Meaning we create more chances than we concede. Meaning his tactics are correct. Obviously you don't end up winning every single game even with right tactics. Funny old game.


We are usually on top. But some matches where we’ve got 70%+ possession but very few shots he needs to change it sooner imo. He’ll admit he’s stubborn and wants it to work his original way. He’s become less stubborn over the last few years though.


He's no José though. I think his system keeps evolving all the time. He trust his system to the hilt. That's true. But can't really argue with the results overall. You have to remember that CL isn't as big of a thing to me as it is to most these days. I mostly care about the league and the domestic cups.
Sometimes we're good and sometimes we're bad but when we're good, at least we're much better than we used to be and when we are bad we're just as bad as we always used to be, so that's got to be good hasn't it?


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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby nottsblue » Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:24 pm

There is an old adage of you’re only as good as your last game/week/month/season etc

There is an big element of truth in this. Last season was a disappointment but partly only because of the incredible previous seasons. Of course he has made and will undoubtedly continue to make errors of judgement but that’s par for the course. In a few of those CL defeats we were fighting blatant corruption which will have played on his mind regarding team selection and tactics. But regardless of that the players on the field have to deliver and if Kun scores the penalty early doors away at spuds, or Laporte doesn’t have a brain fart or if Sterling doesn’t miss from 3 yards the outcomes of those fixtures are very different. Throw into the mix the offside goals the dippers got and the one by Jesus wiped off for us, the Llorente handball, the offside given for Sterling’s winner and numerous other poor decisions, then it’s a different story

Domestically, he has no equal. It’s looking like 3PL titles in 4 years with I suspect a record points haul over a period of four consecutive seasons. That is consistency of the highest level. Add in four domestic cups, with the possibility of a further two this season and it paints a picture of dominance. In years to come the history books will show this side as one of the greatest to ever grace the fields of England. And that is in no small way down to Pep. And he has changed the way football is played and indeed studied and perceived along the way.

Obviously success in Europe thus has not yet happened, but as alluded to, there are plenty of mitigating circumstances for this. In any cup win there is an element of luck and the adage of “your name is on the trophy” can ring true. But we are due a slice of good fortune in the CL and coupled with the way we are playing, there is good reason why we are favourites to lift the thing this time around

For my money, Pep is the best manager there is, both in the world game and the fit for us. He gets us. He gets the obstacles we have had to overcome and will continue to need to overcome. It will be a sad day in my house when he leaves, that’s for sure.
He has


Back to the first line of you are only as good as your last... etc. He has more than enough in the bank
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby stupot » Wed Mar 03, 2021 1:35 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
stupot wrote:Regarding the Pellers comparison - in Pellers 1st year when we won the league we scored 102 goals and got 86 points.
Last season in Pep's shit season we got 81 points, scored 102 goals and funnily enough with this horrendous defence that we called all season actually conceded less goals than in 13/14.

In Pellers last season we got 60 odd points and scraped the Champs League because the rags lost at West Ham.
The Champions League Semi that he got us to was an embarrassment home and away against Madrid. i spent a fortune going there and even though a 1-1 draw would have taken us through we didn't have a shot until the last few minutes.

Pep- 1st ever to get the 100 points.
1st ever to win the domestic treble.
Who knows what we'll finally achieve this year but i guarantee IF we do win the CL it won't stop him being slaughtered by some on here.


Pep with his billions spent hasn’t got past the QF - I’d say that’s more embarrassing than Pellers getting us to the SF with a much inferior team .

It’s been said , even by me , PeP is the best manager out there and I wouldn’t want him changed but let’s
not fucking pretend he is the “Only”manager to have had us playing entertaining football and breaking records eh !!

He just happens to have done those things better than previous managers .

I didn't say getting there was an embarrassment, i said the performance was.
He's definitely the only manager to get 100 points, he's definitely the only manager to win the domestic treble and he's beaten records and then beaten them again.He is the only manager to have done that, not just here but anywhere.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 5:43 pm

Pellers left to an empty stadium as he did a walk around waving to 48,000 empty seats. Pep is a level above anyone we have had even if Bobby put a scarf on, which I loved he is nowhere near Pep.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Mar 03, 2021 6:36 pm

Hazy2 wrote:Pellers left to an empty stadium as he did a walk around waving to 48,000 empty seats. Pep is a level above anyone we have had even if Bobby put a scarf on, which I loved he is nowhere near Pep.


No matter what Baldie does (or any manager in the future does)......he will never EVER bring our stadium and the world of football watching public the kind of euphoric moment Mancini brought us when we won the premiership in stoppage time - not even if he wins every game from now till end of the season along with the CL !!..not even close to that historic day.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 7:37 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Pellers left to an empty stadium as he did a walk around waving to 48,000 empty seats. Pep is a level above anyone we have had even if Bobby put a scarf on, which I loved he is nowhere near Pep.


No matter what Baldie does (or any manager in the future does)......he will never EVER bring our stadium and the world of football watching public the kind of euphoric moment Mancini brought us when we won the premiership in stoppage time - not even if he wins every game from now till end of the season along with the CL !!..not even close to that historic day.


On the other hand Sergio saved Bobbies arse. Sure as shit he would not have seen the night out . As I have posted before
I had the pleasure of chatting with him in Dortmund, great man loved him. Pep is the man now.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 8:56 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Pellers left to an empty stadium as he did a walk around waving to 48,000 empty seats. Pep is a level above anyone we have had even if Bobby put a scarf on, which I loved he is nowhere near Pep.


No matter what Baldie does (or any manager in the future does)......he will never EVER bring our stadium and the world of football watching public the kind of euphoric moment Mancini brought us when we won the premiership in stoppage time - not even if he wins every game from now till end of the season along with the CL !!..not even close to that historic day.


On the other hand Sergio saved Bobbies arse. Sure as shit he would not have seen the night out . As I have posted before
I had the pleasure of chatting with him in Dortmund, great man loved him. Pep is the man now.


Yep. Heard Lescott say that he was going mental and the players just ignored him. Love Bobby but that finale wasn’t his doing.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby london blue 2 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:00 pm

PeterParker wrote:Pep is the best out there, no doubt about it. We can't get better.

But his indecision to sign a new contract, to continue here, played a huge huge parte in our shit form last season. Since he announced he will continue back in what, october? We dropped 7 points in all competitions. 7 points. Mental.

We like or not, but Lillo is playing a huge part in this also because I have a feeling, in contrast with Arteta, is talking to him when Pep is doing something wrong and they try to sort it.

You know what, this is an interesting point. But I think our drop in performance was natural. Top top teams cannot go on and on at the levels we do without a dip somewhere. For eg dippers have been performing at a mad level for 2 and a bit seasons and look at them now. Same as us after 17-18 & 18-19. I think the way that we have regrouped and gone again is indicative of Peps influence.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Hazy2 » Wed Mar 03, 2021 9:28 pm

london blue 2 wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Pep is the best out there, no doubt about it. We can't get better.

But his indecision to sign a new contract, to continue here, played a huge huge parte in our shit form last season. Since he announced he will continue back in what, october? We dropped 7 points in all competitions. 7 points. Mental.

We like or not, but Lillo is playing a huge part in this also because I have a feeling, in contrast with Arteta, is talking to him when Pep is doing something wrong and they try to sort it.

You know what, this is an interesting point. But I think our drop in performance was natural. Top top teams cannot go on and on at the levels we do without a dip somewhere. For eg dippers have been performing at a mad level for 2 and a bit seasons and look at them now. Same as us after 17-18 & 18-19. I think the way that we have regrouped and gone again is indicative of Peps influence.


I agree with that Pep is recharged. José did us a favour with the 2-0. Funny old game Saint.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Whassat » Thu Mar 04, 2021 12:02 am

Outcast wrote:Whether we like it or not, he needs to deliver the chimps league, too many fek ups in the past.
Still wouldn't swap him with anyone


Indeed. I think he won't go until he delivers just that. At the same time, I am extatic so long as he is our manager. He is world class.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby johnny crossan » Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:42 am

apologies if posted before but a good watch (despite the interviewer)
Watch on youtube.com
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:01 am

london blue 2 wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:Pellers left to an empty stadium as he did a walk around waving to 48,000 empty seats. Pep is a level above anyone we have had even if Bobby put a scarf on, which I loved he is nowhere near Pep.


No matter what Baldie does (or any manager in the future does)......he will never EVER bring our stadium and the world of football watching public the kind of euphoric moment Mancini brought us when we won the premiership in stoppage time - not even if he wins every game from now till end of the season along with the CL !!..not even close to that historic day.


On the other hand Sergio saved Bobbies arse. Sure as shit he would not have seen the night out . As I have posted before
I had the pleasure of chatting with him in Dortmund, great man loved him. Pep is the man now.


Love Bobby but that finale wasn’t his doing.


Yep...Didn't Mancini bring on Dzeko and Ballotelli ? which anyone can see, made absolutely no difference at all !!!!..................... :lol:

''wasn't his doing''....deary me.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:07 am

johnny crossan wrote:apologies if posted before but a good watch (despite the interviewer)
Watch on youtube.com


I enjoyed watching that last night...Rio's actually alright (For an ex rag) in his punditry.

Baldie needs to be careful with managing and coaching Foden.....there's a fine line between 'Calming a player down a little' to stifling their natural talent in the name of 'calmness'.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby london blue 2 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 11:48 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Yep...Didn't Mancini bring on Dzeko and Ballotelli ? which anyone can see, made absolutely no difference at all !!!!..................... :lol:

''wasn't his doing''....deary me.


Yeah real revolutionary idea putting on the strikers... :lol: Even Pearce would have worked that one out... or perhaps that's a stretch.

Bobby spent the last few minutes screaming abuse at the team and shouting at them to get back into defence when they were chasing the game.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:04 pm

london blue 2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Yep...Didn't Mancini bring on Dzeko and Ballotelli ? which anyone can see, made absolutely no difference at all !!!!..................... :lol:

''wasn't his doing''....deary me.


Yeah real revolutionary idea putting on the strikers... :lol: Even Pearce would have worked that one out... or perhaps that's a stretch.

Bobby spent the last few minutes screaming abuse at the team and shouting at them to get back into defence when they were chasing the game.


Hes Italian..that's what Italians do...they scream.

This dissing of Mancini is a disgrace....you should be ashamed.

P.S Mancini also had nothing to do with the previous 37 games either I suppose ? you know , the wins that got us to the final match to win the premiership.

Taking that win away from Mancini is about as low as it can go....disgraceful.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Hazy2 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:06 pm

london blue 2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Yep...Didn't Mancini bring on Dzeko and Ballotelli ? which anyone can see, made absolutely no difference at all !!!!..................... :lol:

''wasn't his doing''....deary me.


Yeah real revolutionary idea putting on the strikers... :lol: Even Pearce would have worked that one out... or perhaps that's a stretch.

Bobby spent the last few minutes screaming abuse at the team and shouting at them to get back into defence when they were chasing the game.


Brian Kidd some say forced Boobies hand into going for it, even then Bobby was like a demented loon making no sense what-so-ever on the side line. As I said Sergio saved his arse and Nobody mentions the managers tactical genius !!!!!!!!! Love the fella but it was Sergio who we all remember well some of us do. Agueroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not Boooooooooooooooooooby you f&*&*&&&&**&&ing negative Italian ............................
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:07 pm

Hazy2 wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Yep...Didn't Mancini bring on Dzeko and Ballotelli ? which anyone can see, made absolutely no difference at all !!!!..................... :lol:

''wasn't his doing''....deary me.


Yeah real revolutionary idea putting on the strikers... :lol: Even Pearce would have worked that one out... or perhaps that's a stretch.

Bobby spent the last few minutes screaming abuse at the team and shouting at them to get back into defence when they were chasing the game.


Brian Kidd some say forced Boobies hand into going for it, even then Bobby was like a demented loon making no sense what-so-ever on the side line. As I said Sergio saved his arse and Nobody mentions the managers tactical genius !!!!!!!!! Love the fella but it was Sergio who we all remember well some of us do. Agueroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not Boooooooooooooooooooby you f&*&*&&&&**&&ing negative Italian ............................


You too...should hang your head in shame.
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Hazy2 » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:36 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Hazy2 wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
Yep...Didn't Mancini bring on Dzeko and Ballotelli ? which anyone can see, made absolutely no difference at all !!!!..................... :lol:

''wasn't his doing''....deary me.


Yeah real revolutionary idea putting on the strikers... :lol: Even Pearce would have worked that one out... or perhaps that's a stretch.

Bobby spent the last few minutes screaming abuse at the team and shouting at them to get back into defence when they were chasing the game.


Brian Kidd some say forced Boobies hand into going for it, even then Bobby was like a demented loon making no sense what-so-ever on the side line. As I said Sergio saved his arse and Nobody mentions the managers tactical genius !!!!!!!!! Love the fella but it was Sergio who we all remember well some of us do. Agueroooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo not Boooooooooooooooooooby you f&*&*&&&&**&&ing negative Italian ............................


You too...should hang your head in shame.


Haha xxxxx Loved Bobby and you xxx that's stared rag beating weekend well Carl xxx. How do I get the tongue out of the side of my mouth !
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Re: When will we trust in Pep

Postby Foreverinbluedreams » Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:41 pm

You're all very ungrateful to Joey Barton.
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