The Problematic Ego

[zabbadabbado]

I don't get this who will replace pep stuff, like he is the only manager we could ever have. What's that about, really. Everyone else is shite and he's the only one? Hahahah such bollocks.
Well he will leave and we will have to replace him, that is a fact.

I am sure there are many good pragmatic managers out there who could do quite well with the best squad on the planet. And the financial clout to improve said squad even further.

I'm in this camp. 100%

Me too

[zabbadabbado]

going on about pep ffs . Chelsea got lucky because John Stones didn't hold the line and they scored from it .

Also because those players that are being paid big bucks didn't turn up . Ffs Ed gave Sterling a golden chance and what did he do ?

Peps "Ego" ? come on .

Sterling shouldn't have been anywhere near that Pitch to miss mate.

that is on the manager.

That one change meant we had no DM to counter the quick counter.

And had to move players around so Sterling could do what he always do fuck things up, fall over, give the Ball away.

[CTID Hants]

So it's not a thread about CBBT then?

[Tokyo Blue]

So it's not a thread about CBBT then?

[stupot]

He fucked up the team selection, no doubt about it and we all know Sterling shouldn't have played and Fern should but there was also a lot of big name players who offered nothing. Bernardo for one who seems to be totally immune from criticism on here.
If we haven't got the best manager in the world then can somebody tell me who is. Everyone was saying Klopp last season and up to XMAS this season yet he limped home into the top 4. For all those who say Pep's only won the Champs League with Messi, Zidane has only won it with Ronaldo. We beat his team twice last year and Chelsea did twice this year. Who else is out there that's better.

[Mase]

He fucked up the team selection, no doubt about it and we all know Sterling shouldn't have played and Fern should but there was also a lot of big name players who offered nothing. Bernardo for one who seems to be totally immune from criticism on here.
If we haven't got the best manager in the world then can somebody tell me who is. Everyone was saying Klopp last season and up to XMAS this season yet he limped home into the top 4. For all those who say Pep's only won the Champs League with Messi, Zidane has only won it with Ronaldo. We beat his team twice last year and Chelsea did twice this year. Who else is out there that's better.

If you were asked to work in a completely different role, after performing 12 months in a specific role, would you be at 100% performance wise?

He did that with 4 players. It’s no wonder they didn’t perform well. It’s not on the players.

[carl_feedthegoat]

He fucked up the team selection, no doubt about it and we all know Sterling shouldn't have played and Fern should but there was also a lot of big name players who offered nothing. Bernardo for one who seems to be totally immune from criticism on here.
If we haven't got the best manager in the world then can somebody tell me who is. Everyone was saying Klopp last season and up to XMAS this season yet he limped home into the top 4. For all those who say Pep's only won the Champs League with Messi, Zidane has only won it with Ronaldo. We beat his team twice last year and Chelsea did twice this year. Who else is out there that's better.

Depends what us fans want more - domestic trophies or international ones . If its CL we want then Baldie is the most useless manager out there (given the tools he has to work with ) but if we only want Domestic trophies and couldn't care less about the International ones then yes, Baldie is perfect.

If you do not think hes a shit manager in the CL comps ( considering the tools he has at his disposal * Important to include this* ) then its pointless even discussing this with you.

[stupot]

I don't think he's a shit manager in the Champions League. In the last 12 months he's beaten Madrid home and away, he's beaten Dortmund home and away, he's beaten PSG home and away. What he does is make some shit decisions.
Now I'll ask you again as you won't answer the question. Who is better.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I don't think he's a shit manager in the Champions League. In the last 12 months he's beaten Madrid home and away, he's beaten Dortmund home and away, he's beaten PSG home and away. What he does is make some shit decisions.
Now I'll ask you again as you won't answer the question. Who is better.

ZZ and Ancelotti are better than Baldie in the CL......if you argue against that then you might as well go into a corner and slap yourself silly.

Seeing as you haven't been listening,I will say it one last time,,,,,if the fans or owners want domestic success at the expense of the CL then Baldie is the man to stick with.

[Dimples]

I don't think he's a shit manager in the Champions League. In the last 12 months he's beaten Madrid home and away, he's beaten Dortmund home and away, he's beaten PSG home and away. What he does is make some shit decisions.
Now I'll ask you again as you won't answer the question. Who is better.

ZZ and Ancelotti are better than Baldie in the CL......if you argue against that then you might as well go into a corner and slap yourself silly.

Seeing as you haven't been listening,I will say it one last time,,,,,if the fans or owners want domestic success at the expense of the CL then Baldie is the man to stick with.

Pep and his CL record there are two factors in play.

1. Bent officials. We were robbed against Dippers, Spuds. In this year's final, no penalty, no Red card for assault on Kev, blatant decisions given against us.
That is a major factor.

2. Pep fcuking up. Bad team selections and over thinking.
This year in the final, last year against Lyon.

So I agree with Carl. Pep had got team selections wrong in the CL. But the corruption needs to be factored in. No manager could have beaten the Dippers the way both legs were ref'ed.

[carl_feedthegoat]

I don't think he's a shit manager in the Champions League. In the last 12 months he's beaten Madrid home and away, he's beaten Dortmund home and away, he's beaten PSG home and away. What he does is make some shit decisions.
Now I'll ask you again as you won't answer the question. Who is better.

ZZ and Ancelotti are better than Baldie in the CL......if you argue against that then you might as well go into a corner and slap yourself silly.

Seeing as you haven't been listening,I will say it one last time,,,,,if the fans or owners want domestic success at the expense of the CL then Baldie is the man to stick with.

Pep and his CL record there are two factors in play.

1. Bent officials. We were robbed against Dippers, Spuds. In this year's final, no penalty, no Red card for assault on Kev, blatant decisions given against us.
That is a major factor.

2. Pep fcuking up. Bad team selections and over thinking.
This year in the final, last year against Lyon.

So I agree with Carl. Pep had got team selections wrong in the CL. But the corruption needs to be factored in. No manager could have beaten the Dippers the way both legs were ref'ed.

Dippers , I will grant you that one but the spuds match when he left KDB out , that cost us more than bent officials and so has all the stupid fuckign decisions that Baldie has taken.

ZZ managed to win the CL with the shittiest RM team in centuries yet baldie cannot do it with the strongest team in the world ?.....hes just shit at it mate...he proves it all the time.

[john68]

Sorry Carl mate but whayever team Pep selected for the Spuds match may well have been a factor but our disallowed winner? from Aguero was down solely to Aguero doing what I see forwards do reguarly. Standing offside after an attack breaks down or strolling back to get onside. What is the point of having a high press to win the ball back early, if the striker is too lazy to get back into a position to be effective.

The Spuds last goal was a handball. The offender even admitted it after the game.
The TV showed 3 angles, one of which showed the handball quite clearly.
UeFA stated that the ref had been shown all the necessary angles.
UeFA lied....There was clear photographic evidence showing the ref looking at the screen that only showed the two angles that were unclear.
Those 2 decisions were far more decisive in the corrupt result of that game.
Whatever the team selection, without those crucial corrupt decisions we won that game.

[stupot]

I don't think he's a shit manager in the Champions League. In the last 12 months he's beaten Madrid home and away, he's beaten Dortmund home and away, he's beaten PSG home and away. What he does is make some shit decisions.
Now I'll ask you again as you won't answer the question. Who is better.

ZZ and Ancelotti are better than Baldie in the CL......if you argue against that then you might as well go into a corner and slap yourself silly.

Seeing as you haven't been listening,I will say it one last time,,,,,if the fans or owners want domestic success at the expense of the CL then Baldie is the man to stick with.

Can't get in the corner, you're already there. I've already mentioned ZZ with his wins only with Ronaldo so it seems you're not listening. Ancellotti,, do me a favour. If you think he'd have done better with the decisions we've had against us the last few years.
I've said- Pep's made shit decisions. I'm as pissed off as you, i was there. I spent a fortune but to say he's a shit CL manager is laughable. He waltzes through the group stages every year which Mancini couldn't do. He's got further than Pellers which was the previous thing you used to harp on about. Would you like Zidane or Ancelloti at City.

[salford city]

I don't think he's a shit manager in the Champions League. In the last 12 months he's beaten Madrid home and away, he's beaten Dortmund home and away, he's beaten PSG home and away. What he does is make some shit decisions.
Now I'll ask you again as you won't answer the question. Who is better.

ZZ and Ancelotti are better than Baldie in the CL......if you argue against that then you might as well go into a corner and slap yourself silly.

Seeing as you haven't been listening,I will say it one last time,,,,,if the fans or owners want domestic success at the expense of the CL then Baldie is the man to stick with.

Can't get in the corner, you're already there. I've already mentioned ZZ with his wins only with Ronaldo so it seems you're not listening. Ancellotti,, do me a favour. If you think he'd have done better with the decisions we've had against us the last few years.
I've said- Pep's made shit decisions. I'm as pissed off as you, i was there. I spent a fortune but to say he's a shit CL manager is laughable. He waltzes through the group stages every year which Mancini couldn't do. He's got further than Pellers which was the previous thing you used to harp on about. Would you like Zidane or Ancelloti at City.

His point is that either would have landed the chumps league with the resources at their disposal. Hopefully, Pep learns from this but can you say hand on heart that you would trust him NOT to do something equally as stupid? I definitely cannot. I do not trust him in the chumps league cannot fault him in the build up this time but they give the pot out at the end and he was as far away from winning that last week as he has been

[carl_feedthegoat]

I don't think he's a shit manager in the Champions League. In the last 12 months he's beaten Madrid home and away, he's beaten Dortmund home and away, he's beaten PSG home and away. What he does is make some shit decisions.
Now I'll ask you again as you won't answer the question. Who is better.

ZZ and Ancelotti are better than Baldie in the CL......if you argue against that then you might as well go into a corner and slap yourself silly.

Seeing as you haven't been listening,I will say it one last time,,,,,if the fans or owners want domestic success at the expense of the CL then Baldie is the man to stick with.

Can't get in the corner, you're already there. I've already mentioned ZZ with his wins only with Ronaldo so it seems you're not listening. Ancellotti,, do me a favour. If you think he'd have done better with the decisions we've had against us the last few years.
I've said- Pep's made shit decisions. I'm as pissed off as you, i was there. I spent a fortune but to say he's a shit CL manager is laughable. He waltzes through the group stages every year which Mancini couldn't do. He's got further than Pellers which was the previous thing you used to harp on about. Would you like Zidane or Ancelloti at City.

I'm in a corner ? you asked who is a better manager for the CL and I said ZZ and Ancelotti....now if you do your homework (which you obviously do not ) then you will see that those 2 managers have a better record in the CL than Baldie ( another fact ) . ZZ did have Ronaldo but he carried the majority of the RM players who were shite whereas Baldie had numerous TOP players when he won it...the best players in the world at his disposal -are you following ?

Ancelotti only won it 3 times......fuckign shite..so shite RM have just contracted him again.

You are comedy gold aren't you

[stupot]

Ancellotti just came 10th with Everton, that's brilliant isn't it. 2 places ahead of BFS by the way.
The fact RM want him back just proves the point there isn't a lot of choice out there. Do you not think Barca would have Pep back tomorrow if they could.
Now answer the question. Would you want them at City.

[Outcast]

Ancellotti just came 10th with Everton, that's brilliant isn't it. 2 places ahead of BFS by the way.
The fact RM want him back just proves the point there isn't a lot of choice out there. Do you not think Barca would have Pep back tomorrow if they could.
Now answer the question. Would you want them at City.

I have no idea what point you're trying to prove here.
Pep is a great manager, he just happen to suck at the champions League, with the resources and squad at his disposal he should be doing alot better, could another manager do better than him in this competition, of course! That doesn't mean they are better overall.
The issue is, he over complicates it and I just can't trust him to get it over the line, it's not down to his skills, his desperation is his downfall.

We could argue forever, corruptions and decisions are to blame, the question is can you fully trust him to not to fuck up again in a final? On current form, who would you prefer to lead us in a champion league final ZZ or Pep?

[carl_feedthegoat]

Ancellotti just came 10th with Everton, that's brilliant isn't it. 2 places ahead of BFS by the way.
The fact RM want him back just proves the point there isn't a lot of choice out there. Do you not think Barca would have Pep back tomorrow if they could.
Now answer the question. Would you want them at City.

PeP would probably have come 11th with Everton as he only has experience managing the best squads in the world .

RM just signed Ancelotti - as he’s a top top manager.(you disagree which shows your knowledge for what it is )

I’m all for domestic dominance so I’m (overall ) happy with Baldie carrying on the role as manager but I would not self combust like some on here would if he left.

More importantly that question is for the owners - I suspect they will give him one more try at it and if he fails he will go next year .

[carl_feedthegoat]

Ancellotti just came 10th with Everton, that's brilliant isn't it. 2 places ahead of BFS by the way.
The fact RM want him back just proves the point there isn't a lot of choice out there. Do you not think Barca would have Pep back tomorrow if they could.
Now answer the question. Would you want them at City.

I have no idea what point you're trying to prove here.
Pep is a great manager, he just happen to suck at the champions League, with the resources and squad at his disposal he should be doing alot better, could another manager do better than him in this competition, of course! That doesn't mean they are better overall.
The issue is, he over complicates it and I just can't trust him to get it over the line, it's not down to his skills, his desperation is his downfall.

We could argue forever, corruptions and decisions are to blame, the question is can you fully trust him to not to fuck up again in a final? On current form, who would you prefer to lead us in a champion league final ZZ or Pep?

I just wasted a post on replying to him - It won’t sink in as he’s about as anal as you can get .

I just named 2 managers ( after asking me whose better than pep in the CL ) who have performed better than baldie in the CL - he still can’t admit to that fact .

[Hazy2]

As raging as I am with Pep for his I explicable decisions. Using Madrid Barca or Bayern in any comparison is not the best way to show pep for the twat he is. All get a fair shake. We don’t never will. Pep fucked himself over this time and deserves the criticism he has had. The TWAT!