Mase wrote:PrezIke wrote:Clearly a fantastic opportunity for our hot taking whingers to get in their hits.
Better take your chances. It might not last more than a few months.
Please do let it out if it helps you feel better.
Me? Not interested in over-worrying about a match day 1 result away that has so many variables that tell me this is not even close to valid and reliable data to read much into.
If we perform like this in 2-3 months (less, say 1-2, if we don't sign Kane) with who Pep is employing regularly enough, then I'll begin to lean into the idea.
Why don’t you reply when you quote someone and they reply to you. But then you moan about people whinging? Ironic.
It’s a forum. If you don’t like people having an opinion then don’t be here. Literally no one is forcing you. People are upset because the club they support have lost and you’re upset because of that?! Weird.
Mate, I didn't mean to ignore any replies as I don't always catch them or go back and read. Also sometimes it's just life and what I wish to spend my energy on.
I will admit I could take a nicer tone, but I am a human and I guess this type of fan reaction is not always my favourite for a long list of reasons, even if I can respect and accept reasons for its existance.
I hear what you are saying, but given this is a public discussion forum, why is it not acceptable to comment on flaws I see with other comments using evidence? Does that not sound somewhat odd to you?
One can think and feel as one likes, but that does not mean one cannot point out reasons to disagree with this and use evidence to defend an opposing view. That's what we teach children to do in school.
If one offers evidence on the contrary to what another writes that's great, and part of how things work. Criticising my criticisms by saying one is just free to say what they want, does not equal freedom to comment and be allowed to go without criticism.
My thoughts are shared about what some fans do - which I did say one is well entitled to if it makes one feel better which I actually believe is likely true even if it sounded pejorative - because I tend to not agree with the patterns of those who always always lean into negative reactions.
If we collected data from this forum, and other forums from fans I am almost certain we could find the same individuals taking mostly the same nevative, at time vitriolic positions on game performances, players, managers, transfer market activity, and during games, despite the club being the most successful club in England for a decade. Does that mean nothing?
I will also admit some more positive fans go far in their direction. I tend to try not to be either one too much.
Yet why do those who engage in the usually loud and angry negativity get to go without any response and reaction from those who may observe this and seek to raise valid, logical points about how this thinking may be inaccurate, and therefore worth noting?
Fans are not exactly always rational. That includes me, but I do try to be fair and behave differently as a fan. I am not exactly unfamiliar with the fandom I am criticising and wrote about it on here before.
I challenge the loud fans and what I tend to hear from some who are like this is that this is just how fans are.
I also don't EVER expect us to agree. It's not for you to change your mind because I think a good number of these fans' minds are already made up.
But maybe others will listen or think a bit.
That's the point.
What about those like me though? Do we not count? I know I am not alone, and all I can say is if you write something on a public forum and expect everyone to just agree with you or not be allowed to question reasoning behind thinking what is it for then?
I am getting it here and eslewhere too, and I can accept and listen to criticisms of my thinking rather than me as a person.
Peace and respect.