Mase wrote:Let me get this right, you’re saying we don’t need a DM because that’s what Kane does? I’m so confused.
Kane would have stopped these counter attacks?
We had Aguero but still needed Fern.
Hazy2 wrote:Mase wrote:Let me get this right, you’re saying we don’t need a DM because that’s what Kane does? I’m so confused.
Kane would have stopped these counter attacks?
We had Aguero but still needed Fern.
Different Mase, look at Liverpool if your CF is sloppy loses possession that is the trigger for a CA.The whole Klopp game plan is nick it with 2 in there they target the ball turned over feed the forwards. Aguero amazing but not safe to gamble a run of him emptying the MF. Rodri at times is on his own, if we had say just for argument’s sake Eddie Dias Rodri and Kane all departments are safe as houses. Kane would change us on 2 fronts his goals offer an efficiency we just don’t have that ends plan A for the opposing team he also drops into a 10 like did v us the man is the best in the world at it, put our MF behind him it would be like shelling peas. Haaland likes the ball in front of him Lewdowski like Kane is the point of the attack it is only precision defending that stops him which leaves space for the MF. The holder we employ with less graft. Rodri like Ferna is flogged mate. That’s why Pep wants CF who can play not just score all be it for me crucial for a 9.
Mase wrote:Hazy2 wrote:Mase wrote:Let me get this right, you’re saying we don’t need a DM because that’s what Kane does? I’m so confused.
Kane would have stopped these counter attacks?
We had Aguero but still needed Fern.
Different Mase, look at Liverpool if your CF is sloppy loses possession that is the trigger for a CA.The whole Klopp game plan is nick it with 2 in there they target the ball turned over feed the forwards. Aguero amazing but not safe to gamble a run of him emptying the MF. Rodri at times is on his own, if we had say just for argument’s sake Eddie Dias Rodri and Kane all departments are safe as houses. Kane would change us on 2 fronts his goals offer an efficiency we just don’t have that ends plan A for the opposing team he also drops into a 10 like did v us the man is the best in the world at it, put our MF behind him it would be like shelling peas. Haaland likes the ball in front of him Lewdowski like Kane is the point of the attack it is only precision defending that stops him which leaves space for the MF. The holder we employ with less graft. Rodri like Ferna is flogged mate. That’s why Pep wants CF who can play not just score all be it for me crucial for a 9.
Cheers for explaining. We’re not getting Kane mate. What do we do then?
patrickblue wrote:It seems that a lot on here don't really get what Pep's about with comments about Cancello not being able to defend and Rodri not being a defensive midfielder.
That's not what Pep wants them to do.
Defence in his eyes consists of two centre backs and a goalkeeper. His idea of fullbacks is extra wingers. his idea of a DM is a box to boxer.
In his eyes, everyone is a defender when they need to be,
I'll no doubt get shit for saying it, but I rate Cancello as the best technical player in the side, with Rodri not that far behind.
But judging them in terms of being a full back and a defensive mid is totally missing the point IMO..
brite blu sky wrote:patrickblue wrote:It seems that a lot on here don't really get what Pep's about with comments about Cancello not being able to defend and Rodri not being a defensive midfielder.
That's not what Pep wants them to do.
Defence in his eyes consists of two centre backs and a goalkeeper. His idea of fullbacks is extra wingers. his idea of a DM is a box to boxer.
In his eyes, everyone is a defender when they need to be,
I'll no doubt get shit for saying it, but I rate Cancello as the best technical player in the side, with Rodri not that far behind.
But judging them in terms of being a full back and a defensive mid is totally missing the point IMO..
I get it. i'm not necesarily 100% convinced by Pep's style, it comes with shortfalls and there will always be games like Palace.
But you're right, his teams and players cannot be judged in the trad sense, cos they don't operate in the trad sense. Pep is all or nothing, we play one way and that's it (give or take a tiny bit). So if it doesn't work we are fucked and it comes with risk factors like 'defenders' who are not the best defendrs in the world.
When it is super slick it is like a titanium machine and fascinating to watch, but then when a part is not completely perfect you notice it like a handmade wooden cog.
Mase wrote:Fern got a lot of praise and was considered one of the best in the world at what he did. I don’t follow the notion that position is a thankless. We’ve just been spoiled with him.
stupot wrote:Mase wrote:Fern got a lot of praise and was considered one of the best in the world at what he did. I don’t follow the notion that position is a thankless. We’ve just been spoiled with him.
Totally agree with this, Fern was the best by a mile for me. He could tackle, was good in the air and his passing is brilliant. Rodri has improved a lot this season but he's not in that league. Rice is and will only get better as he's still really young.
CTID Hants wrote:Fernandinho quality is undisputed, unlucky for us age got the better of him and tbf age took a while to catch him up!!
Sorry Mase pls don't shoot the messanger......
https://www.mcfcreport.com/post/reports ... eplacement
blues2win wrote:We’re not going to get Rice and Haaland in the same window. Haaland is the complete focus.
Mase wrote:CTID Hants wrote:Fernandinho quality is undisputed, unlucky for us age got the better of him and tbf age took a while to catch him up!!
Sorry Mase pls don't shoot the messanger......
https://www.mcfcreport.com/post/reports ... eplacement
I like Rodri and I feel like he’d do well in a Gundo type role. But similar to Gundo I don’t think that is DM.
I genuinely thought this Lavia kid we brought in was Fern’s long term replacement.
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