Dimples wrote:Do people still care what your sexual orientation is (provided you are not harming others)?
For me this is a non-story.
Dimples wrote:Do people still care what your sexual orientation is (provided you are not harming others)?
For me this is a non-story.
johnny crossan wrote:17 yrs old.
sheblue wrote:Dimples wrote:Do people still care what your sexual orientation is (provided you are not harming others)?
For me this is a non-story.
Absolute non story, nobody gives a fuck.
In fact i thought this thread was about Jack Daniels, lovely juice that.
CTID Hants wrote:johnny crossan wrote:17 yrs old.
17 yrs old has fuck all to do with it JC , I sincerely hope you don't travel to our hallowed ground along Alan Turing Way?
mr_nool wrote:Great post John. Came on here to write something similar, but you are far more eloquent.
I expressed my opinion to the other half this morning and have been under the cosh ever since. Don't disagree he's a plucky kid but still think 17 is too young to be a missionary for the LGBT movement.john68 wrote:I don't often disagree with you Johnny but a 17yr old coming out as gay is a very brave tging to do in the ultra macho environment of football.
Homophobia may not be as widespread as it once was but trust me Johnny, it is far from gone away.
41yrs driving a taxi in Manchester gave me the opportunity to watch the Gay Village evolve and grow, I also saw the gangs of lads who would go down there tobeat up the gay men.
I have a number of gay friends who suffered being shunned by their families, shunned by their closest friends and battered randomly by homophobic gangs theynever knew.
Football is a very mach and crual environment. Any excuse used by fans to insult and hopefully intimidate any opposing player's percieved weaknesses.
Adebayour...His Dad washes elephant etc....and dit those Arsenal fans really bring the bananas that littered the pitch for a HT snack?
On here, we rip into the percieved feminity of Tranaldo as a matter of course. I just did it there and we all know who I mean.
Last week, my daughter was approached by one of the company staff who asked not to have to work with another member of staff. His reason was. "I drive, he sucks dick." The gay gut in question is a top bloke.
I don't think it's a caree move to open youself up to every gobshite opposing fan slinging personal insults at you game after game, week after week.
Cos we all know that's most likely to happen
The fact it is a story is the reason he shouldn't be it. I hold many unfashionable views, no doubt failing to recognise that the world has moved on but in this case in these days it is surely "coming out" that is anachronistic. You're probably right about the main beneficiary of Jake's missionary zeal being himself though.john68 wrote:Well done Mrs Crossan...and so you should be
I'm not sure he set out to be a missionary for anyone other than his self.
I have had many conversations about the self imposed imprisonement of young gay men who have been too frightened to release themselves to be themselves from the silence they feel the need to keep.
I think he is very brave art a personal level to release himself. Maybe as a young man not fuly understanding how the media works and how they would jump on the story fronm whatever angle they sought fit.
We don't know how he came out, quietly or otherwise. It is quite likely as a kid , he did so quietly, whilst some trusted friend decided to shout it to an ever eager to sensationalise a non story.....Young kid is gay...should not be even considered a story in these more liberal times. Young footballer is gay...is suddenly national news.
I just hope the opposing fans next season are kinder to him than they were to the likes of Albert Johanson years ago and more recently Razza for daring to be black.
littlebig wrote:Good on the lad. Takes balls to stand up and will inspire others
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