Welcome to The Chavs Marc Cucurella - A Snip at £62m

[stupot]

just pay the bloody money

You would think that, been crying out for a LB for God knows how many years but City64 wants to haggle over 15m or so. Loose change to sheikh Mansour.

For the sake of losing a loyal top lad in Zinchenko for a relative unknown Brighton LB £15 - 20 million is huge mate . Hate to see Zinchenko go and us spaff £50 million and ruin a great window is all I am saying .

He might be a loyal top lad but he's not a top left back.
If we replace him for 15ml it's brilliant.

[City64]

just pay the bloody money

You would think that, been crying out for a LB for God knows how many years but City64 wants to haggle over 15m or so. Loose change to sheikh Mansour.

For the sake of losing a loyal top lad in Zinchenko for a relative unknown Brighton LB £15 - 20 million is huge mate . Hate to see Zinchenko go and us spaff £50 million and ruin a great window is all I am saying .

He might be a loyal top lad but he's not a top left back.
If we replace him for 15ml it's brilliant.

So Cucarella @£50 mill is a proven top LB ?

[stupot]

just pay the bloody money

You would think that, been crying out for a LB for God knows how many years but City64 wants to haggle over 15m or so. Loose change to sheikh Mansour.

For the sake of losing a loyal top lad in Zinchenko for a relative unknown Brighton LB £15 - 20 million is huge mate . Hate to see Zinchenko go and us spaff £50 million and ruin a great window is all I am saying .

He might be a loyal top lad but he's not a top left back.
If we replace him for 15ml it's brilliant.

So Cucarella @£50 mill is a proven top LB ?

You're obsessed with the 50ml. I pay for my season ticket which I'm more than happy with the price and i get the cheapest beer in the PL. It's not coming from us.
He looked pretty good last season.
I'd say he's definitely worth 15ml more than Zinch, wouldn't you.

[Outcast]

just pay the bloody money

You would think that, been crying out for a LB for God knows how many years but City64 wants to haggle over 15m or so. Loose change to sheikh Mansour.

For the sake of losing a loyal top lad in Zinchenko for a relative unknown Brighton LB £15 - 20 million is huge mate . Hate to see Zinchenko go and us spaff £50 million and ruin a great window is all I am saying .

He might be a loyal top lad but he's not a top left back.
If we replace him for 15ml it's brilliant.

So Cucarella @£50 mill is a proven top LB ?

Yes that's his natural position which technically makes him proven specifically in prem which makes him less of a gamble. He's sought after for a good reason. Zinch is not a natural LB, he's a great squad player. Besides don't want Chelsea get their hands on him, I'm hoping we can raid James off them, Walker's natural heir.

[City64]

You would think that, been crying out for a LB for God knows how many years but City64 wants to haggle over 15m or so. Loose change to sheikh Mansour.

For the sake of losing a loyal top lad in Zinchenko for a relative unknown Brighton LB £15 - 20 million is huge mate . Hate to see Zinchenko go and us spaff £50 million and ruin a great window is all I am saying .

He might be a loyal top lad but he's not a top left back.
If we replace him for 15ml it's brilliant.

So Cucarella @£50 mill is a proven top LB ?

You're obsessed with the 50ml. I pay for my season ticket which I'm more than happy with the price and i get the cheapest beer in the PL. It's not coming from us.
He looked pretty good last season.
I'd say he's definitely worth 15ml more than Zinch, wouldn't you.

Zinchenko ain’t a LB though and neither is Cucarella according to most Brighton fans he is a midfielder just like Zinchenko !

[City64]

You would think that, been crying out for a LB for God knows how many years but City64 wants to haggle over 15m or so. Loose change to sheikh Mansour.

For the sake of losing a loyal top lad in Zinchenko for a relative unknown Brighton LB £15 - 20 million is huge mate . Hate to see Zinchenko go and us spaff £50 million and ruin a great window is all I am saying .

He might be a loyal top lad but he's not a top left back.
If we replace him for 15ml it's brilliant.

So Cucarella @£50 mill is a proven top LB ?

Yes that's his natural position which technically makes him proven specifically in prem which makes him less of a gamble. He's sought after for a good reason. Zinch is not a natural LB, he's a great squad player. Besides don't want Chelsea get their hands on him, I'm hoping we can raid James off them, Walker's natural heir.

James deffo , unreal proven quality that lad . I made a case for signing him years ago when he on loan at WIgan Athletic and was sensational. Can’t see Chelsea selling to us though ? But James absolutely definitely a LB i would happily pay over the odds for .

[Mase]

Cucarella player LB and LCB in a back three last season for Brighton. Any Brighton fan that says he’s not a LB is gearing up for the “we didn’t want him anyway” line.

[City64]

Cucarella player LB and LCB in a back three last season for Brighton. Any Brighton fan that says he’s not a LB is gearing up for the “we didn’t want him anyway” line.

Cucarella only 18 games at LB for Brighton and 6 at LCM , 35 Brighton appearances in total .
£50 million? Really ?

[Mase]

Cucarella player LB and LCB in a back three last season for Brighton. Any Brighton fan that says he’s not a LB is gearing up for the “we didn’t want him anyway” line.

Cucarella only 18 games at LB for Brighton and 6 at LCM , 35 Brighton appearances in total .
£50 million? Really ?

According to WhoScored, he played -

18 at LB
9 at LCB
6 DML (wing-back)
2 LM

He sounds spot on for us.

[City64]

Cucarella player LB and LCB in a back three last season for Brighton. Any Brighton fan that says he’s not a LB is gearing up for the “we didn’t want him anyway” line.

Cucarella only 18 games at LB for Brighton and 6 at LCM , 35 Brighton appearances in total .
£50 million? Really ?

According to WhoScored, he played -

18 at LB
9 at LCB
6 DML (wing-back)
2 LM

He sounds spot on for us.

So he is a midfielder just like Zinchenko then .

[Mase]

Cucarella player LB and LCB in a back three last season for Brighton. Any Brighton fan that says he’s not a LB is gearing up for the “we didn’t want him anyway” line.

Cucarella only 18 games at LB for Brighton and 6 at LCM , 35 Brighton appearances in total .
£50 million? Really ?

According to WhoScored, he played -

18 at LB
9 at LCB
6 DML (wing-back)
2 LM

He sounds spot on for us.

So he is a midfielder just like Zinchenko then .

He played 27 games in defence and 8 in midfield. Sounds like a defender to me.

But ultimately in Pep’s system we play with full-backs that can attack. He sounds perfect for that.

The market for LB’s isn’t great, especially ones that can play Pep’s system or are willing to adjust to play it. That means we’ll have to pay slightly higher for one.

[Dimples]

I am with 64 on this.
£50M is crazy money for a player who has played one season in the PL.

Big thing though is future transfers.
Pay over the odds once and then all future transfers in could become hard going for us.

[stupot]

I am with 64 on this.
£50M is crazy money for a player who has played one season in the PL.

Big thing though is future transfers.
Pay over the odds once and then all future transfers in could become hard going for us.

If we gave Brighton Zinchenko and 15 mill for him would you still call it 50.
What's the difference

[Mase]

I am with 64 on this.
£50M is crazy money for a player who has played one season in the PL.

Big thing though is future transfers.
Pay over the odds once and then all future transfers in could become hard going for us.

We bought Grealish last summer for £100m and then this summer we’ve got Haaland and Alverez for peanuts compared to their true worth.

[City64]

I am with 64 on this.
£50M is crazy money for a player who has played one season in the PL.

Big thing though is future transfers.
Pay over the odds once and then all future transfers in could become hard going for us.

We bought Grealish last summer for £100m and then this summer we’ve got Haaland and Alverez for peanuts compared to their true worth.

Last summers window was a strange one , I think we missed a couple of targets ( LB ?) and then settled for signing Haaland this summer instead. We had money to burn so paid well over the odds for Jack Grealish , still a top signing though . It’s a totally different market this summer window but obviously top LBs in short supply . Very little in quality difference between Zinchenko and Cucarella, Reece James however definitely worth pursuing unless his people have already said no ?

[Mase]

I am with 64 on this.
£50M is crazy money for a player who has played one season in the PL.

Big thing though is future transfers.
Pay over the odds once and then all future transfers in could become hard going for us.

We bought Grealish last summer for £100m and then this summer we’ve got Haaland and Alverez for peanuts compared to their true worth.

Last summers window was a strange one , I think we missed a couple of targets ( LB ?) and then settled for signing Haaland this summer instead. We had money to burn so paid well over the odds for Jack Grealish , still a top signing though . It’s a totally different market this summer window but obviously top LBs in short supply . Very little in quality difference between Zinchenko and Cucarella, Reece James however definitely worth pursuing unless his people have already said no ?

I’d take Reece James tomorrow. To be fair I remember you saying he’d be class when you saw him at Wigan.

[Dimples]

I am with 64 on this.
£50M is crazy money for a player who has played one season in the PL.

Big thing though is future transfers.
Pay over the odds once and then all future transfers in could become hard going for us.

If we gave Brighton Zinchenko and 15 mill for him would you still call it 50.
What's the difference

I would not do that. I don't think he is worth £15M more than Zinch. He has only had one season in the PL. The second season is usually a lot harder as you have been figured out by the opposition.

On top of that, he has to adapt to Pep's style of play, that takes a lot of players a full season.

That is before we factor in a lot of squad changes. Fern, Sterling, Jesus gone. Haaland, Alvarez and Phillips in. Zinch for Cucurella makes it four changes. That is a lot to absorb. Usually two changes each season are enough so continuity is not affected.

All told, for this season I would prefer we keep Zinch rather than replace him with Cucurella, unless the fee is around the same as whatever Zinch is valued at.

[Outcast]

I am with 64 on this.
£50M is crazy money for a player who has played one season in the PL.

Big thing though is future transfers.
Pay over the odds once and then all future transfers in could become hard going for us.

If we gave Brighton Zinchenko and 15 mill for him would you still call it 50.
What's the difference

I would not do that. I don't think he is worth £15M more than Zinch. He has only had one season in the PL. The second season is usually a lot harder as you have been figured out by the opposition.

On top of that, he has to adapt to Pep's style of play, that takes a lot of players a full season.

That is before we factor in a lot of squad changes. Fern, Sterling, Jesus gone. Haaland, Alvarez and Phillips in. Zinch for Cucurella makes it four changes. That is a lot to absorb. Usually two changes each season are enough so continuity is not affected.

All told, for this season I would prefer we keep Zinch rather than replace him with Cucurella, unless the fee is around the same as whatever Zinch is valued at.

Zinch wanted to go, he wants regular football time in his preferred position. Think we were happy to keep him either way. It's too much of a gamble buying the cheaper option than the right fit, at least on paper.

[littlebig]

Edging closer to a deal according to this http://www.thehardtackle.com/transfer-n ... cucurella/

[john@staustell]

I am with 64 on this.
£50M is crazy money for a player who has played one season in the PL.

Big thing though is future transfers.
Pay over the odds once and then all future transfers in could become hard going for us.

If we gave Brighton Zinchenko and 15 mill for him would you still call it 50.
What's the difference

I would not do that. I don't think he is worth £15M more than Zinch. He has only had one season in the PL. The second season is usually a lot harder as you have been figured out by the opposition.

On top of that, he has to adapt to Pep's style of play, that takes a lot of players a full season.

That is before we factor in a lot of squad changes. Fern, Sterling, Jesus gone. Haaland, Alvarez and Phillips in. Zinch for Cucurella makes it four changes. That is a lot to absorb. Usually two changes each season are enough so continuity is not affected.

All told, for this season I would prefer we keep Zinch rather than replace him with Cucurella, unless the fee is around the same as whatever Zinch is valued at.

Zinch wanted to go, he wants regular football time in his preferred position. Think we were happy to keep him either way. It's too much of a gamble buying the cheaper option than the right fit, at least on paper.

Zinch was never the right fit for left back and never will be as long as he has a hole in his arse. Not his fault, and did a half decent job in midfield

I'm gonna take Mase's line for once and wonder why that young lad who starred in the Africa cup of nations isn't in line - do we know if he is on tour, or with the under 23s? The reports from that cup were pretty special.

EDIT - I see he isn't. Of course we have no LB travelled