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Re: Football Media

Postby salford city » Sun Aug 28, 2022 11:20 am

nottsblue wrote:
salford city wrote:Gota love the Beeb / MUTV with their analysis of Erling and how many touches he has. Don't t think i have ever read such a report about a player before? Wowser keep it going boys you count his touches, we'll count his goals lets see how many records this boy breaks

Lineker and Wright on MotD however were full of praise and as former strikers, and fucking great ones as well as it goes, they know what value he is and where he does his work and damage. His heat map was brilliant. In the opposition penalty area when he scored and in the centre circle when he kicked off. Where it counts



Indeed we have some strike force now
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Re: Football Media

Postby johnny crossan » Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:11 pm

salford city wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
salford city wrote:Gota love the Beeb / MUTV with their analysis of Erling and how many touches he has. Don't t think i have ever read such a report about a player before? Wowser keep it going boys you count his touches, we'll count his goals lets see how many records this boy breaks

Lineker and Wright on MotD however were full of praise and as former strikers, and fucking great ones as well as it goes, they know what value he is and where he does his work and damage. His heat map was brilliant. In the opposition penalty area when he scored and in the centre circle when he kicked off. Where it counts



Indeed we have some strike force now
Alvarez is not a replacement for him though, when Haaland doesn't play it's back to false 9 tika taka - without the pace of Sterling but with Alvarez hopefully adding more than the energy of Jesus.
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Re: Football Media

Postby patrickblue » Sun Aug 28, 2022 12:27 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
salford city wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
salford city wrote:Gota love the Beeb / MUTV with their analysis of Erling and how many touches he has. Don't t think i have ever read such a report about a player before? Wowser keep it going boys you count his touches, we'll count his goals lets see how many records this boy breaks

Lineker and Wright on MotD however were full of praise and as former strikers, and fucking great ones as well as it goes, they know what value he is and where he does his work and damage. His heat map was brilliant. In the opposition penalty area when he scored and in the centre circle when he kicked off. Where it counts



Indeed we have some strike force now
Alvarez is not a replacement for him though, when Haaland doesn't play it's back to false 9 tika taka - without the pace of Sterling or the energy of Jesus.


Although I fear you may be right, it's an unknown at the moment. How Alvarez would perform as a target man is unknown, although there's loads of youtube evidence, albeit against lesser opposition that suggest he would do it well.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Dimples » Mon Aug 29, 2022 10:38 am

patrickblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
salford city wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
salford city wrote:Gota love the Beeb / MUTV with their analysis of Erling and how many touches he has. Don't t think i have ever read such a report about a player before? Wowser keep it going boys you count his touches, we'll count his goals lets see how many records this boy breaks

Lineker and Wright on MotD however were full of praise and as former strikers, and fucking great ones as well as it goes, they know what value he is and where he does his work and damage. His heat map was brilliant. In the opposition penalty area when he scored and in the centre circle when he kicked off. Where it counts



Indeed we have some strike force now
Alvarez is not a replacement for him though, when Haaland doesn't play it's back to false 9 tika taka - without the pace of Sterling or the energy of Jesus.


Although I fear you may be right, it's an unknown at the moment. How Alvarez would perform as a target man is unknown, although there's loads of youtube evidence, albeit against lesser opposition that suggest he would do it well.


Or maybe we are not going to mimic last seasons system when Alvarez plays?
Pep is creative, that is why his teams keep winning, they are unpredictable. That is why Pep is special.
In additional, Team and players keep evolving (driven by Pep).
Foden and Grealish may play different roles, Gómez is new to the party as is Plamer, etc...
I doubt if we are just going to revert to the false nine system of the past two seasons. It will be a new play on that.

As an aside. It is so annoying to read about the genius of Klopp and Conte, etc...
Basically, both are one trick ponies (although Klopp is trying to change things at Liverpool with Nunez signing).
Klopp, press and kick and rush, by pass midfield play. Conte sets up to counter attack.
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Re: Football Media

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Re: Football Media

Postby CTID Hants » Wed Aug 31, 2022 2:32 pm

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Re: Football Media

Postby Dimples » Thu Sep 01, 2022 10:22 am

Nunez is available again.
Media have gone very quiet on Nunez.
Articles on Haaland Vs. Nunez, the golden boot and who is better, etc... have disappeared........
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Re: Football Media

Postby salford city » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:07 pm

Dimples wrote:Nunez is available again.
Media have gone very quiet on Nunez.
Articles on Haaland Vs. Nunez, the golden boot and who is better, etc... have disappeared........


Just wait for his next game. Question is will Klopp risk him in a derby. I'd be surprised to see him start
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Re: Football Media

Postby john@staustell » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:12 pm

salford city wrote:
Dimples wrote:Nunez is available again.
Media have gone very quiet on Nunez.
Articles on Haaland Vs. Nunez, the golden boot and who is better, etc... have disappeared........


Just wait for his next game. Question is will Klopp risk him in a derby. I'd be surprised to see him start


Came across as some sort of inexperienced, unskilled lunatic last time out
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Re: Football Media

Postby salford city » Thu Sep 01, 2022 1:54 pm

john@staustell wrote:
salford city wrote:
Dimples wrote:Nunez is available again.
Media have gone very quiet on Nunez.
Articles on Haaland Vs. Nunez, the golden boot and who is better, etc... have disappeared........


Just wait for his next game. Question is will Klopp risk him in a derby. I'd be surprised to see him start


Came across as some sort of inexperienced, unskilled lunatic last time out


indeed billy big- bollocks believing his (&) scouse hype. Meanwhile, we crack on with the deadliest pair
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Re: Football Media

Postby johnny crossan » Thu Sep 01, 2022 3:56 pm

CTID Hants wrote:Family man looks like a retrial on the cards as jury couldn't reach a verdict and have been discharged.

Cue BBC Sportswashing champion Banned Roan on full Rag message playing the sympathy card "Britain's most decorated player already suffering for two years hung his head as the judge told him the date of his retrial will not be for at least another year"
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Re: Football Media

Postby patrickblue » Thu Sep 01, 2022 6:00 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:Family man looks like a retrial on the cards as jury couldn't reach a verdict and have been discharged.

Cue BBC Sportswashing champion Banned Roan on full Rag message playing the sympathy card "Britain's most decorated player already suffering for two years hung his head as the judge told him the date of his retrial will not be for at least another year"


And apparently Gary Neville is facing a contempt of court charge over an instagram message relating to the case.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/gary-neville-could-face-contempt-24901787
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Re: Football Media

Postby salford city » Thu Sep 01, 2022 8:50 pm

patrickblue wrote:
johnny crossan wrote:
CTID Hants wrote:Family man looks like a retrial on the cards as jury couldn't reach a verdict and have been discharged.

Cue BBC Sportswashing champion Banned Roan on full Rag message playing the sympathy card "Britain's most decorated player already suffering for two years hung his head as the judge told him the date of his retrial will not be for at least another year"


And apparently Gary Neville is facing a contempt of court charge over an instagram message relating to the case.
https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/gary-neville-could-face-contempt-24901787
Hope they go after bacon next


His old fella was the same pair of cnuts
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Re: Football Media

Postby Original Dub » Mon Sep 05, 2022 10:23 pm

"Alvarez haters must be squirming"
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Re: Football Media

Postby Nickyboy » Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:54 am

Original Dub wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11182125/Man-City-costliest-squad-world-Man-United-Chelsea-completing-three.html

See it includes all potential add ons, so if that's the case we'd have won the league, champions league and a few of them would have picked up the balon d'or too. I'd be happy with that!

Funny how they've stopped producing net spend tables now isn't it !
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Re: Football Media

Postby Dimples » Tue Sep 06, 2022 10:03 am

Original Dub wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11182125/Man-City-costliest-squad-world-Man-United-Chelsea-completing-three.html


City are number1 spenders on squad with add-ons?

Let us manipulate the figures by:

1. ignoring player sales.
2. boost the spend by including unsubstantiated add-ons.
3. no start date, no end date means we can exclude players who have left, for ex, Pogba, Lukaku, Di Maria (£240M)
4. ignore signing on fees, agent fees, etc... therefore, we exclude Ronaldo.
5. don't give a breakdown of the figures, just make sure City come top of te pile.

Garbage article at many levels.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Scatman » Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:02 am

Dimples wrote:
Original Dub wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11182125/Man-City-costliest-squad-world-Man-United-Chelsea-completing-three.html


City are number1 spenders on squad with add-ons?

Let us manipulate the figures by:

1. ignoring player sales.
2. boost the spend by including unsubstantiated add-ons.
3. no start date, no end date means we can exclude players who have left, for ex, Pogba, Lukaku, Di Maria (£240M)
4. ignore signing on fees, agent fees, etc... therefore, we exclude Ronaldo.
5. don't give a breakdown of the figures, just make sure City come top of te pile.

Garbage article at many levels.


My understanding of the article and the report it is based on, is that they have calculated the cost to each club of purchasing the players who are in their current squad.

Why would they include the cost of players who aren't in the squad (for example Lukaku or Di Maria) when working out the cost of the current squad?

Why would they include receipts for the sales of players who aren't in the current squad when working out the cost of the current squad?
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Re: Football Media

Postby johnny crossan » Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:07 pm

Scatman wrote:
Dimples wrote:
Original Dub wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11182125/Man-City-costliest-squad-world-Man-United-Chelsea-completing-three.html


City are number1 spenders on squad with add-ons?

Let us manipulate the figures by:

1. ignoring player sales.
2. boost the spend by including unsubstantiated add-ons.
3. no start date, no end date means we can exclude players who have left, for ex, Pogba, Lukaku, Di Maria (£240M)
4. ignore signing on fees, agent fees, etc... therefore, we exclude Ronaldo.
5. don't give a breakdown of the figures, just make sure City come top of te pile.

Garbage article at many levels.


My understanding of the article and the report it is based on, is that they have calculated the cost to each club of purchasing the players who are in their current squad.

Why would they include the cost of players who aren't in the squad (for example Lukaku or Di Maria) when working out the cost of the current squad?

Why would they include receipts for the sales of players who aren't in the current squad when working out the cost of the current squad?
the trouble with the CIES Football Observatory is that it is essentially a propaganda outlet for the cartel clubs funded by UEFA of course.
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Re: Football Media

Postby Dimples » Tue Sep 06, 2022 12:14 pm

johnny crossan wrote:
Scatman wrote:
Dimples wrote:
Original Dub wrote:https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-11182125/Man-City-costliest-squad-world-Man-United-Chelsea-completing-three.html


City are number1 spenders on squad with add-ons?

Let us manipulate the figures by:

1. ignoring player sales.
2. boost the spend by including unsubstantiated add-ons.
3. no start date, no end date means we can exclude players who have left, for ex, Pogba, Lukaku, Di Maria (£240M)
4. ignore signing on fees, agent fees, etc... therefore, we exclude Ronaldo.
5. don't give a breakdown of the figures, just make sure City come top of te pile.

Garbage article at many levels.


My understanding of the article and the report it is based on, is that they have calculated the cost to each club of purchasing the players who are in their current squad.

Why would they include the cost of players who aren't in the squad (for example Lukaku or Di Maria) when working out the cost of the current squad?

Why would they include receipts for the sales of players who aren't in the current squad when working out the cost of the current squad?
the trouble with the CIES Football Observatory is that it is essentially a propaganda outlet for the cartel clubs funded by UEFA of course.


My understanding of the article is the same as yours.
My problem with the article is that it spins a false narrative about City being the biggest spenders in the PL.
IMO this is deliberate i.e. lets keep spinning the narrative that City blow money, ruin football, destroy the traditional transfer infrastructure, etc...
Technically the article is probably correct (current squad value) but it does not reflect the actual spend by each club.

For ex, MU spent £90M on Pogba who left on a free. That £90M is not included in the current MU squad value.
City spend £100M for Grealish and this is included in the current MC squad value.
City player sales this summer brought in £140M - not included.
MU player sales brought in £10M - not included.

Therefore, if you want to give an accurate account of a club's spending, using the above figures: MC +£40M and MU -£80M
If you take the criteria used by the article then MC have the most expensive squad with £100M and MU have the cheapest with £0M.

So you can have a headline like:
MC have the most expensive squad (which is misleading) and MC splash more cash than MU and Chelsea (which is misleading) OR
MC balance the books (which is accurate) and MU and Chelsea inflate the transfer market through irresponsible debt funded spending (accurate)
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Re: Football Media

Postby City64 » Wed Sep 07, 2022 5:42 am

Fuck that right wing pile of shite Daily Fail .
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