Ederson - is he good enough?

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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby nottsblue » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:45 pm

zuricity wrote:
Sideshow Bob wrote:still not convinced...


He is what you call a shot stopper . Little to do tonight and when called , stepped up . Doing what we expect a goalie to do.

Top class this fella. That you are not convinced means nothing , or , you had a slower stream than most of us and missed his vital input
in the second half.

Some wallies even blamed him for the Villa goal ! really, that is down to Bernie and Laporte.

The defence was at fault for conceding the chance.
Ederson was at fault for the shot. Very disappointing to not see your goalie save that.
He did however make a couple of good saves later in the game to give credit
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby zuricity » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:46 pm

nottsblue wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Sideshow Bob wrote:still not convinced...


He is what you call a shot stopper . Little to do tonight and when called , stepped up . Doing what we expect a goalie to do.

Top class this fella. That you are not convinced means nothing , or , you had a slower stream than most of us and missed his vital input
in the second half.

Some wallies even blamed him for the Villa goal ! really, that is down to Bernie and Laporte.

The defence was at fault for conceding the chance.
Ederson was at fault for the shot. Very disappointing to not see your goalie save that.
He did however make a couple of good saves later in the game to give credit


Sorry Notts that is cringeworthy , he is OUR goalie.

Not at fault at all for a well placed shot.
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby nottsblue » Sun Feb 12, 2023 8:58 pm

zuricity wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Sideshow Bob wrote:still not convinced...


He is what you call a shot stopper . Little to do tonight and when called , stepped up . Doing what we expect a goalie to do.

Top class this fella. That you are not convinced means nothing , or , you had a slower stream than most of us and missed his vital input
in the second half.

Some wallies even blamed him for the Villa goal ! really, that is down to Bernie and Laporte.

The defence was at fault for conceding the chance.
Ederson was at fault for the shot. Very disappointing to not see your goalie save that.
He did however make a couple of good saves later in the game to give credit


Sorry Notts that is cringeworthy , he is OUR goalie.

Not at fault at all for a well placed shot.

We’ll agree to disagree.

But no one is above criticism from fans. Whether it’s justified or not I guess depends on the individual fans viewpoint.
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby zuricity » Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:03 pm

nottsblue wrote:
zuricity wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Sideshow Bob wrote:still not convinced...


He is what you call a shot stopper . Little to do tonight and when called , stepped up . Doing what we expect a goalie to do.

Top class this fella. That you are not convinced means nothing , or , you had a slower stream than most of us and missed his vital input
in the second half.

Some wallies even blamed him for the Villa goal ! really, that is down to Bernie and Laporte.

The defence was at fault for conceding the chance.
Ederson was at fault for the shot. Very disappointing to not see your goalie save that.
He did however make a couple of good saves later in the game to give credit


Sorry Notts that is cringeworthy , he is OUR goalie.

Not at fault at all for a well placed shot.

We’ll agree to disagree.

But no one is above criticism from fans. Whether it’s justified or not I guess depends on the individual fans viewpoint.


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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby london blue 2 » Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:13 pm

We blaming ederson again because our defence/midfield fucked up playing out from the back, again?
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby Dubciteh » Sun Feb 12, 2023 9:44 pm

london blue 2 wrote:We blaming ederson again because our defence/midfield fucked up playing out from the back, again?


Its not that i was expecting him to save it just his body language for the shot looked all wrong and he kinda just fell in a heap on the floor(or something!). It was weird but in fairness he recovered well for the rest of the game.
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby PeterParker » Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:19 am

Dubciteh wrote:
london blue 2 wrote:We blaming ederson again because our defence/midfield fucked up playing out from the back, again?


Its not that i was expecting him to save it just his body language for the shot looked all wrong and he kinda just fell in a heap on the floor(or something!). It was weird but in fairness he recovered well for the rest of the game.


That is my issue also.
The thing is he is not inspiring calmness, at least for me. When we are under pressure, I expect him to let one in rather than save it.
Also, he rarely seems to organize his defense.

I think he failed to progress as a gk and became complacent because of his reserves and with the idea he will start games no matter what.

I have to admit, his fuckup with Spurs and then blaming on Rodri got to me. Man the fuck-up
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby salford city » Mon Feb 13, 2023 9:57 am

Have said it before, I have never rated his shot stopping. I would caveat that to say that he gets called upon a lot less than most keepers and so that is a factor. To PPs point, I don't think he inspires confidence but rhe fact that he doesn't know who is playing in defence on a game to game basis is not helping. Overall, he is the best at the moment for our possession game but he should now be looking for an out ball to the viking more often and mixing it up
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby s1ty m » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:10 am

nottsblue wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Sideshow Bob wrote:still not convinced...


He is what you call a shot stopper . Little to do tonight and when called , stepped up . Doing what we expect a goalie to do.

Top class this fella. That you are not convinced means nothing , or , you had a slower stream than most of us and missed his vital input
in the second half.

Some wallies even blamed him for the Villa goal ! really, that is down to Bernie and Laporte.

The defence was at fault for conceding the chance.
Ederson was at fault for the shot. Very disappointing to not see your goalie save that.
He did however make a couple of good saves later in the game to give credit


Honestly, it was so poor from him, again. Such a weak shot.
After the ball was centred, after the whistle blew...
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby blues2win » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:15 am

He made two excellent saves later on.
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby Dimples » Mon Feb 13, 2023 11:27 am

Ed is in a class of his own.
Perfect for City's style of play.
One aspect that he gets no credit for are his concentration levels, never switches off.

I really don't understand the critism of him.
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby stupot » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:03 pm

Dimples wrote:Ed is in a class of his own.
Perfect for City's style of play.
One aspect that he gets no credit for are his concentration levels, never switches off.

I really don't understand the critism of him.

Also brilliant on corners. After the likes of Hart and Given who never came off their line for them and caused loads of panic it's great to have a keeper who commands his area.
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby johnny crossan » Mon Feb 13, 2023 12:11 pm

s1ty m wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Sideshow Bob wrote:still not convinced...


He is what you call a shot stopper . Little to do tonight and when called , stepped up . Doing what we expect a goalie to do.

Top class this fella. That you are not convinced means nothing , or , you had a slower stream than most of us and missed his vital input
in the second half.

Some wallies even blamed him for the Villa goal ! really, that is down to Bernie and Laporte.

The defence was at fault for conceding the chance.
Ederson was at fault for the shot. Very disappointing to not see your goalie save that.
He did however make a couple of good saves later in the game to give credit


Honestly, it was so poor from him, again. Such a weak shot.

The initial problem was Akanji, he got into a position to block and didn't follow through - being charitable Eddy could have been confused
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby Nigels Tackle » Mon Feb 13, 2023 1:10 pm

did he tip that duran volley onto the bar?
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby blues2win » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:04 pm

Don’t think so but he tipped a Coutinho shot over the bar and saved a low shot with a strong hand.
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby sheblue » Mon Feb 13, 2023 2:44 pm

Dimples wrote:Ed is in a class of his own.
Perfect for City's style of play.
One aspect that he gets no credit for are his concentration levels, never switches off.

I really don't understand the critism of him.


His shot stopping has been average, add to that I am not certain his distribution is quite as good as it was. In short not a 'disaster' but not as good as he was or can be.
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby Mase » Mon Feb 13, 2023 8:04 pm

Neuer Won’t be with Bayern for much longer. They’re fining him £1.4m for an interview he’s done. He’s out for the season after injuring himself skiing after the WC.
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby nottsblue » Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:14 pm

Should change his shirt number to 11

Then under the 1s print shot and goal
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby ayrshireblue » Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:48 pm

nottsblue wrote:Should change his shirt number to 11

Then under the 1s print shot and goal

I don't think you can blame him for the goal today. Laporte was done like a kipper and nobody doubled up behind him, one of those games like Mancini says you've got to stop going for the 2nd and make sure you don't concede.
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Re: Ederson - is he good enough?

Postby nottsblue » Sat Feb 18, 2023 5:57 pm

ayrshireblue wrote:
nottsblue wrote:Should change his shirt number to 11

Then under the 1s print shot and goal

I don't think you can blame him for the goal today. Laporte was done like a kipper and nobody doubled up behind him, one of those games like Mancini says you've got to stop going for the 2nd and make sure you don't concede.

No, not to blame today to be fair. But it does seem like every fucking game the opposition score with their first shot on target. I know it isn’t actually the case statistically speaking but it’s fucking annoying
Especially when other teams goalies seem to make loads of saves
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