Milan Derby CL semi

[johnny crossan]

In short, you claim "Kloc" isn't common Bosnian slang for a lamp post, the Sarajevo Times (among many others) have simply got it wrong. OK got it , btw I think the Devon equivalent of someone with the nickname 'muffin' would be someone who looked like a chip barm rather than ate too many of them, although there is a correlation

In short, I'm claiming the word 'kloc' was borrowed from German, where its equivalent is 'klutz'. I'm also quite happy to claim that, although I'm aware the word 'kloc' is used in parts of the country, Sarajevo isn't one of them: in Sarajevo, 'bandera' is the word used for a street light. I'm equally happy to claim that I've quite possibly never heard, seen or read the word 'kloc' in connection with Dzeko in Bosnia & Herzegovina; it's simply not a nickname on the street.

Oh, and I'd do all of that without claiming The Sarajevo Times is a reliable source: it's made by a bunch of people who are primarily students/early career lecturers from a Gulenist school/university, most of whom have lived in the country for under 2 years, and don't actually speak the language. Most of the content is recycled/paraphrased from English language media that has been published in the previous 72 hours.

I just double-checked this with my wife, too (Sarajevo native, unlike me or any of your sources): 'Kloc' in Sarajevo slang is used exclusively to refer to things that support other things - examples she gave are the block of wood put under a car once you've jacked it up, the wooden pole that's used to support the middle of a washing line, and the wooden rest you put wood on for chopping it (I honestly don't know what she means by the last one). If you used 'kloc' to describe a lamp-post there, you'd look a bit of a lexicological klutz!

Wooden pole eh? That sounds about right! What we call a clothes prop up north - so 'Kloc' is the term for a long thin pole that holds up washing lines, road signs and street lights in Bosnia. Hoist by your own petard I'm afraid BiB. I am disappointed that you've failed to notice this important piece of folklore about our only player from your country for two decades. It's also good for your mental health that you don't move from the position where you not knowing something makes it unimportant to the stage where if you don't know about it then it doesn't exist

[johnny crossan]

In short, you claim "Kloc" isn't common Bosnian slang for a lamp post, the Sarajevo Times (among many others) have simply got it wrong. OK got it , btw I think the Devon equivalent of someone with the nickname 'muffin' would be someone who looked like a chip barm rather than ate too many of them, although there is a correlation

In short, I'm claiming the word 'kloc' was borrowed from German, where its equivalent is 'klutz'. I'm also quite happy to claim that, although I'm aware the word 'kloc' is used in parts of the country, Sarajevo isn't one of them: in Sarajevo, 'bandera' is the word used for a street light. I'm equally happy to claim that I've quite possibly never heard, seen or read the word 'kloc' in connection with Dzeko in Bosnia & Herzegovina; it's simply not a nickname on the street.

Oh, and I'd do all of that without claiming The Sarajevo Times is a reliable source: it's made by a bunch of people who are primarily students/early career lecturers from a Gulenist school/university, most of whom have lived in the country for under 2 years, and don't actually speak the language. Most of the content is recycled/paraphrased from English language media that has been published in the previous 72 hours.

I just double-checked this with my wife, too (Sarajevo native, unlike me or any of your sources): 'Kloc' in Sarajevo slang is used exclusively to refer to things that support other things - examples she gave are the block of wood put under a car once you've jacked it up, the wooden pole that's used to support the middle of a washing line, and the wooden rest you put wood on for chopping it (I honestly don't know what she means by the last one). If you used 'kloc' to describe a lamp-post there, you'd look a bit of a lexicological klutz!

Wooden pole eh? That sounds about right! What we call a clothes prop up north - so 'Kloc' is a local Bosnian term for a long thin pole that holds up washing lines, road signs and street lights in Bosnia. Hoist by your own petard I'm afraid BiB. I am disappointed that you've failed to notice this important piece of folklore about our only player from your country for two decades. It's also good for your mental health that you don't move from the position where you not knowing something makes it unimportant to the stage where if you don't know about it then it doesn't exist

[zuricity]

Kinell !

A woman goes into a Baker's shop in Glasgow and asks , "Is that a doughnut or a Merangue ?". The Baker replies , "No yer reet, it's a Doughnut".

[johnny crossan]

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Kinell !

A woman goes into a Baker's shop in Glasgow and asks , "Is that a doughnut or a Merangue ?". The Baker replies , "No yer reet, it's a Doughnut".

[BlueinBosnia]

In short, you claim "Kloc" isn't common Bosnian slang for a lamp post, the Sarajevo Times (among many others) have simply got it wrong. OK got it , btw I think the Devon equivalent of someone with the nickname 'muffin' would be someone who looked like a chip barm rather than ate too many of them, although there is a correlation

In short, I'm claiming the word 'kloc' was borrowed from German, where its equivalent is 'klutz'. I'm also quite happy to claim that, although I'm aware the word 'kloc' is used in parts of the country, Sarajevo isn't one of them: in Sarajevo, 'bandera' is the word used for a street light. I'm equally happy to claim that I've quite possibly never heard, seen or read the word 'kloc' in connection with Dzeko in Bosnia & Herzegovina; it's simply not a nickname on the street.

Oh, and I'd do all of that without claiming The Sarajevo Times is a reliable source: it's made by a bunch of people who are primarily students/early career lecturers from a Gulenist school/university, most of whom have lived in the country for under 2 years, and don't actually speak the language. Most of the content is recycled/paraphrased from English language media that has been published in the previous 72 hours.

I just double-checked this with my wife, too (Sarajevo native, unlike me or any of your sources): 'Kloc' in Sarajevo slang is used exclusively to refer to things that support other things - examples she gave are the block of wood put under a car once you've jacked it up, the wooden pole that's used to support the middle of a washing line, and the wooden rest you put wood on for chopping it (I honestly don't know what she means by the last one). If you used 'kloc' to describe a lamp-post there, you'd look a bit of a lexicological klutz!

Wooden pole eh? That sounds about right! What we call a clothes prop up north - so 'Kloc' is the term for a long thin pole that holds up washing lines, road signs and street lights in Bosnia. Hoist by your own petard I'm afraid BiB. I am disappointed that you've failed to notice this important piece of folklore about our only player from your country for two decades. It's also good for your mental health that you don't move from the position where you not knowing something makes it unimportant to the stage where if you don't know about it then it doesn't exist

Something that supports the weight of something else does not equate to being a lamppost. Like I said, I may have heard it mentioned about him (i.e. it vaguely rings a bell), and, if so, most likely in the British press, but it's neither common knowledge that the nickname exists nor common slang where that nickname apparently originated. Find me a single Sarajevan (rather than a Turkish cultist) that says that people in Sarajevo use the word 'kloc' for lamppost, and I'll admit that some might use it. But, like I said from the start, it's used in the same context as 'klutz' is in German, and not in some special way to mean 'lamppost' like Jonathan Wilson thinks.

(Also, a minor point, but Vedran Corluka was also from Bosnia & Herzegovina)

[johnny crossan]

In short, you claim "Kloc" isn't common Bosnian slang for a lamp post, the Sarajevo Times (among many others) have simply got it wrong. OK got it , btw I think the Devon equivalent of someone with the nickname 'muffin' would be someone who looked like a chip barm rather than ate too many of them, although there is a correlation

In short, I'm claiming the word 'kloc' was borrowed from German, where its equivalent is 'klutz'. I'm also quite happy to claim that, although I'm aware the word 'kloc' is used in parts of the country, Sarajevo isn't one of them: in Sarajevo, 'bandera' is the word used for a street light. I'm equally happy to claim that I've quite possibly never heard, seen or read the word 'kloc' in connection with Dzeko in Bosnia & Herzegovina; it's simply not a nickname on the street.

Oh, and I'd do all of that without claiming The Sarajevo Times is a reliable source: it's made by a bunch of people who are primarily students/early career lecturers from a Gulenist school/university, most of whom have lived in the country for under 2 years, and don't actually speak the language. Most of the content is recycled/paraphrased from English language media that has been published in the previous 72 hours.

I just double-checked this with my wife, too (Sarajevo native, unlike me or any of your sources): 'Kloc' in Sarajevo slang is used exclusively to refer to things that support other things - examples she gave are the block of wood put under a car once you've jacked it up, the wooden pole that's used to support the middle of a washing line, and the wooden rest you put wood on for chopping it (I honestly don't know what she means by the last one). If you used 'kloc' to describe a lamp-post there, you'd look a bit of a lexicological klutz!

Wooden pole eh? That sounds about right! What we call a clothes prop up north - so 'Kloc' is the term for a long thin pole that holds up washing lines, road signs and street lights in Bosnia. Hoist by your own petard I'm afraid BiB. I am disappointed that you've failed to notice this important piece of folklore about our only player from your country for two decades. It's also good for your mental health that you don't move from the position where you not knowing something makes it unimportant to the stage where if you don't know about it then it doesn't exist

Something that supports the weight of something else does not equate to being a lamppost. Like I said, I may have heard it mentioned about him (i.e. it vaguely rings a bell), and, if so, most likely in the British press, but it's neither common knowledge that the nickname exists nor common slang where that nickname apparently originated. Find me a single Sarajevan (rather than a Turkish cultist) that says that people in Sarajevo use the word 'kloc' for lamppost, and I'll admit that some might use it. But, like I said from the start, it's used in the same context as 'klutz' is in German, and not in some special way to mean 'lamppost' like Jonathan Wilson thinks.

(Also, a minor point, but Vedran Corluka was also from Bosnia & Herzegovina)

So everybody in his hometown who called Edin 'Kloc' is a Turkish cultist, Charlie Corluka was a Bosnian not a Croatian and every post that doesn't have a lamp on top of it isn't a lamp post. BiB you've excelled yourself

[BlueinBosnia]

Something that supports the weight of something else does not equate to being a lamppost. Like I said, I may have heard it mentioned about him (i.e. it vaguely rings a bell), and, if so, most likely in the British press, but it's neither common knowledge that the nickname exists nor common slang where that nickname apparently originated. Find me a single Sarajevan (rather than a Turkish cultist) that says that people in Sarajevo use the word 'kloc' for lamppost, and I'll admit that some might use it. But, like I said from the start, it's used in the same context as 'klutz' is in German, and not in some special way to mean 'lamppost' like Jonathan Wilson thinks.

(Also, a minor point, but Vedran Corluka was also from Bosnia & Herzegovina)

So everybody in his hometown who called Edin 'Kloc' is a Turkish cultist, Charlie Corluka was a Bosnian not a Croatian and every post that doesn't have a lamp on top of it isn't a lamp post. BiB you've excelled yourself

Can you tell me where Corluka's from, according to this factbox?



Corluka was born in Bosnia & Herzegovina, to parents from Bosnia & Herzegovina, and spent his early childhood in Bosnia & Herzegovina, but chose to play for the country in which he settled as a refugee.

[Nigels Tackle]

this place never ceases to amaze me with the tangents threads can go off at....!!!
any updates on tax free shopping for tourists? pretty sure i read something where the burberry chairman was asking rishi to have a rethink on the policy...

[johnny crossan]

Something that supports the weight of something else does not equate to being a lamppost. Like I said, I may have heard it mentioned about him (i.e. it vaguely rings a bell), and, if so, most likely in the British press, but it's neither common knowledge that the nickname exists nor common slang where that nickname apparently originated. Find me a single Sarajevan (rather than a Turkish cultist) that says that people in Sarajevo use the word 'kloc' for lamppost, and I'll admit that some might use it. But, like I said from the start, it's used in the same context as 'klutz' is in German, and not in some special way to mean 'lamppost' like Jonathan Wilson thinks.

(Also, a minor point, but Vedran Corluka was also from Bosnia & Herzegovina)

So everybody in his hometown who called Edin 'Kloc' is a Turkish cultist, Charlie Corluka was a Bosnian not a Croatian and every post that doesn't have a lamp on top of it isn't a lamp post. BiB you've excelled yourself

Can you tell me where Corluka's from, according to this factbox?

Corluka was born in Bosnia & Herzegovina, to parents from Bosnia & Herzegovina, and spent his early childhood in Bosnia & Herzegovina, but chose to play for the country in which he settled as a refugee.

Oh dear, BiB I expected better. As the box says, Corluka was born in Yugoslavia and as Croats not Bosniaks his family escaped ethnic cleansing by moving to Belgrade, capital of Croatia when the new states were created in 1992. If you told Charlie he was a Bosnian to his face I don't think he'd be too happy given the history. As Ian Hislop remarked, "The fact I was born in Wales doesn't make me Welsh." Whenever I engage in these delightful discussions with you BiB this YT clip invariably comes to mind

Watch on youtube.com

[BlueinBosnia]

Something that supports the weight of something else does not equate to being a lamppost. Like I said, I may have heard it mentioned about him (i.e. it vaguely rings a bell), and, if so, most likely in the British press, but it's neither common knowledge that the nickname exists nor common slang where that nickname apparently originated. Find me a single Sarajevan (rather than a Turkish cultist) that says that people in Sarajevo use the word 'kloc' for lamppost, and I'll admit that some might use it. But, like I said from the start, it's used in the same context as 'klutz' is in German, and not in some special way to mean 'lamppost' like Jonathan Wilson thinks.

(Also, a minor point, but Vedran Corluka was also from Bosnia & Herzegovina)

So everybody in his hometown who called Edin 'Kloc' is a Turkish cultist, Charlie Corluka was a Bosnian not a Croatian and every post that doesn't have a lamp on top of it isn't a lamp post. BiB you've excelled yourself

Can you tell me where Corluka's from, according to this factbox?

Corluka was born in Bosnia & Herzegovina, to parents from Bosnia & Herzegovina, and spent his early childhood in Bosnia & Herzegovina, but chose to play for the country in which he settled as a refugee.

Oh dear, BiB I expected better. As the box says, Corluka was born in Yugoslavia and as Croats not Bosniaks his family escaped ethnic cleansing by moving to Belgrade, capital of Croatia when the new states were created in 1992. If you told Charlie he was a Bosnian to his face I don't think he'd be too happy given the history. As Ian Hislop remarked, "The fact I was born in Wales doesn't make me Welsh." Whenever I engage in these delightful discussions with you BiB this YT clip invariably comes to mind

Watch on youtube.com

I suspected you were on a wind-up, and that pretty much proves it.

[johnny crossan]

Something that supports the weight of something else does not equate to being a lamppost. Like I said, I may have heard it mentioned about him (i.e. it vaguely rings a bell), and, if so, most likely in the British press, but it's neither common knowledge that the nickname exists nor common slang where that nickname apparently originated. Find me a single Sarajevan (rather than a Turkish cultist) that says that people in Sarajevo use the word 'kloc' for lamppost, and I'll admit that some might use it. But, like I said from the start, it's used in the same context as 'klutz' is in German, and not in some special way to mean 'lamppost' like Jonathan Wilson thinks.

(Also, a minor point, but Vedran Corluka was also from Bosnia & Herzegovina)

So everybody in his hometown who called Edin 'Kloc' is a Turkish cultist, Charlie Corluka was a Bosnian not a Croatian and every post that doesn't have a lamp on top of it isn't a lamp post. BiB you've excelled yourself

Can you tell me where Corluka's from, according to this factbox?

Corluka was born in Bosnia & Herzegovina, to parents from Bosnia & Herzegovina, and spent his early childhood in Bosnia & Herzegovina, but chose to play for the country in which he settled as a refugee.

Oh dear, BiB I expected better. As the box says, Corluka was born in Yugoslavia and as Croats not Bosniaks his family escaped ethnic cleansing by moving to Zagreb Belgrade, capital of Croatia when the new states were created in 1992. If you told Charlie he was a Bosnian to his face I don't think he'd be too happy given the history. As Ian Hislop remarked, "The fact I was born in Wales doesn't make me Welsh." Whenever I engage in these delightful discussions with you BiB this YT clip invariably comes to mind

Watch on youtube.com

I suspected you were on a wind-up, and that pretty much proves it.

Just a slip of the thumbs BiB, even I make mistakes occasionally - a fig leaf to preserve your modesty