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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby lets all have a disco » Thu Feb 25, 2010 10:58 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Bingo Lewis wrote:What the fuck are you lot going at each other for?
mancityfans.net didn't get Hughes sacked. We didn't get Mancini appointed.The guy who bankrolls our club, for whatever it takes to get the players WE WANT did it.
Stop being a bunch of nobs, Hughes was shit, end of. The only mistake the Sheik made was getting Mancini in.
Hughes would never have got us where we wanted, same as Bob won't.

Unfortunately, we need to change Manager again. So lets just suck it and see until the end of the season, as there is no way Mancini will be replaced between now and then.


EXACTLY.


Doesnt the club read forums and gauge opinions?
From this forum the Hughes out voice was very loud indeed.

This forum might not have got him sacked per se but it wil have been noted about the Hughes out voice.
Nield and the others can read.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby Alex Sapphire » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:01 am

razor400 wrote:as for the messiah hughes, have a look at the results list from sundy 18th of October until he got fucked off.


DDWDDDDWWDLW
LDDDWLWLWWLW

we just had our fourth draw on the trot, although because it was a cup we had ET and lost.
In 12 games we've lost 4 and been knocked out of 2 cup competitions
we've won 2 of the last 8
if you compare their records against teams they both played:

they BOTH beat Pompey, Blackburn and Wolves
they BOTH drew with Liverpool
Mancini did better against Bolton, turning a draw into a win (with home advantage)
He did worse against Hull, turning a draw into defeat (away from home)

so comparing them is interesting and certainly doesn't make the case for sacking clueless
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:03 am

lets all have a disco wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Bingo Lewis wrote:What the fuck are you lot going at each other for?
mancityfans.net didn't get Hughes sacked. We didn't get Mancini appointed.The guy who bankrolls our club, for whatever it takes to get the players WE WANT did it.
Stop being a bunch of nobs, Hughes was shit, end of. The only mistake the Sheik made was getting Mancini in.
Hughes would never have got us where we wanted, same as Bob won't.

Unfortunately, we need to change Manager again. So lets just suck it and see until the end of the season, as there is no way Mancini will be replaced between now and then.


EXACTLY.


Doesnt the club read forums and gauge opinions?
From this forum the Hughes out voice was very loud indeed.

This forum might not have got him sacked per se but it wil have been noted about the Hughes out voice.
Nield and the others can read.



Like Chris bloody Nield had any say over who our manager is.

And if you are right, considering Hughes fanatics going on rampage, I assume Hughes, or at very least Kidd, will lead us out against Chelsea.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby lets all have a disco » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:03 am

Alex Sapphire wrote:
razor400 wrote:as for the messiah hughes, have a look at the results list from sundy 18th of October until he got fucked off.


DDWDDDDWWDLW
LDDDWLWLWWLW

we just had our fourth draw on the trot, although because it was a cup we had ET and lost.
In 12 games we've lost 4 and been knocked out of 2 cup competitions
we've won 2 of the last 8
if you compare their records against teams they both played:

they BOTH beat Pompey, Blackburn and Wolves
they BOTH drew with Liverpool
Mancini did better against Bolton, turning a draw into a win (with home advantage)
He did worse against Hull, turning a draw into defeat (away from home)

so comparing them is interesting and certainly doesn't make the case for sacking clueless



Cheers Alex,very well put pal.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby lets all have a disco » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:05 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Bingo Lewis wrote:What the fuck are you lot going at each other for?
mancityfans.net didn't get Hughes sacked. We didn't get Mancini appointed.The guy who bankrolls our club, for whatever it takes to get the players WE WANT did it.
Stop being a bunch of nobs, Hughes was shit, end of. The only mistake the Sheik made was getting Mancini in.
Hughes would never have got us where we wanted, same as Bob won't.

Unfortunately, we need to change Manager again. So lets just suck it and see until the end of the season, as there is no way Mancini will be replaced between now and then.


EXACTLY.


Doesnt the club read forums and gauge opinions?
From this forum the Hughes out voice was very loud indeed.

This forum might not have got him sacked per se but it wil have been noted about the Hughes out voice.
Nield and the others can read.



Like Chris bloody Nield had any say over who our manager is.

And if you are right, considering Hughes fanatics going on rampage, I assume Hughes, or at very least Kidd, will lead us out against Chelsea.


Did i say Nield got him the sack?
Did i fuck,i was implying that if enough people at the club read the forums they will be able to gauge feelings.

FFS Antti.

Calm down for five minutes go and get a brew and look at whats being posted.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:07 am

lets all have a disco wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Bingo Lewis wrote:What the fuck are you lot going at each other for?
mancityfans.net didn't get Hughes sacked. We didn't get Mancini appointed.The guy who bankrolls our club, for whatever it takes to get the players WE WANT did it.
Stop being a bunch of nobs, Hughes was shit, end of. The only mistake the Sheik made was getting Mancini in.
Hughes would never have got us where we wanted, same as Bob won't.

Unfortunately, we need to change Manager again. So lets just suck it and see until the end of the season, as there is no way Mancini will be replaced between now and then.


EXACTLY.


Doesnt the club read forums and gauge opinions?
From this forum the Hughes out voice was very loud indeed.

This forum might not have got him sacked per se but it wil have been noted about the Hughes out voice.
Nield and the others can read.



Like Chris bloody Nield had any say over who our manager is.

And if you are right, considering Hughes fanatics going on rampage, I assume Hughes, or at very least Kidd, will lead us out against Chelsea.


Did i say Nield got him the sack?
Did i fuck,i was implying that if enough people at the club read the forums they will be able to gauge feelings.

FFS Antti.

Calm down for five minutes go and get a brew and look at whats being posted.


Fari enough mate. I'm just fucking pissed off about last night.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby lets all have a disco » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:09 am

Mate we all are,people are venting.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby ant london » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:19 am

lets all have a disco wrote:Mate we all are,people are venting.



exactly....I have a lot of hate and bile inside me today, I have to get it out...better out than in and all that

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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby MaineRoadMemories » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:20 am

When Cook and Marwood were building up their evidence to get rid of Hughes, without doubt they would have presented Khaldoon with information from Bluemoon that the manager had lost the faith of the fans as it would have made a compelling argument.

On one of the open day meetings at the club Cook said he uses the forum on a regular basis to guage opinion and feedback. He didn't mentioned this site though.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:22 am

20 minutes after the game, there were nearly 500 people on this board no doubt most attracted by the scent of blood.

I sense a real danger, as no doubt many others do that the board is in danger could deteriorate into a worse mess than we had before xmas, and throughout last year as certain feuds from that era are clearly continuing. Personally, as one of the "haters" I know how strongly people can feel about a manager who they feel just isnt doing their club justice, and I think Mancini is proving to be a grade F "fail" at the moment, in my eyes doing an even worse job than Hughes was, but as I think CTK raised in a post last night, the one upmanship engaged in by some posters on this thread in particular is embarrassing.

The very same people calling for stability last year, who were after 2/3 games under Mancini whining that NQDP, Socrates or whoever else told us that Mancini was the second coming were "posting out of smugness", are now posting out of the same smugness that actually "they got it right", "Hughes should have stayed" etc etc, and blaming those people for the predicament we are now in - which if you want to split hairs, is actually higher in the league than we were when Hughes went and thus closer to the goal Mancini was appointed for.

End of the day, its irrelevant, as he was sacked, and it had nothing to do with what anyone on here said or felt, it was because the chairman did not think he was the man to take us where he wanted us to go. I would add that this owner, chairman and board have NO connection to any past Manchester City regime, and therefore the accusations that this is TYPICAL City sacking yet another manager, are also unfounded, they made their decision to remove Hughes from their own view of what was going on, not because it is Man City's way to sack managers after 5 minutes.

I'd also like to close down the myth that a "large number" of people held this view about Mancini being the second coming - bullshit, the number in the Mancini lobbying group (those who actively voiced support for Mancini long before Hughes was sacked) was in low single digit numbers. Funnily enough the group who wanted Hughes out from the start for being a rag was also in the low single digits (some were even the same people in both groups). The original thread when Hughes was appointed is documentary proof there were maybe a handful of people who were against hughes because of a "non-footballing agenda", yet that has also been lied about constantly by some posters to suit their own ends, suggesting that anyone who wanted Hughes out was "just because he was a rag", or anyone who now supports Mancini is doing so because "they were the ones who wanted Hughes sacked" which by and large is a total falsehood.

In both cases, the myth perpetuated from a few posters that both these groups were huge from the very start, which is a blatent lie. The vast majority who opposed Hughes formed their view on watching what happened on the pitch, just as now, people are forming their opinions on Mancini based on the same reasons. It would be better all round therefore if people stopped lying about the numbers of people who had pre-conceived ideas about a manager, just to suit whatever agenda they want to peddle, or to find a group of people to blame

I'm all for criticism of a manager when it is warranted, and will join the rest in being vocal about the shite we are seeing at the moment, but please can people stop this silly points scoring about who is right and who was wrong about Hughes. The fact is, all evidence is pointing towards us going backwards, and ultimately if Mancini fails to deliver, he will be gone in the summer.

That is again, not us pressing the panic button and being typical city as some would like to think, but an admission that we appointed the wrong man.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby the_georgian_genius » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:23 am

The fans are what is wrong with this club at the minute.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:24 am

the_georgian_genius wrote:The fans are what is wrong with this club at the minute.


How so

Its not my fault we are playing shit and getting routinely beaten
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby Original Dub » Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:35 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Bingo Lewis wrote:What the fuck are you lot going at each other for?
mancityfans.net didn't get Hughes sacked. We didn't get Mancini appointed.
The guy who bankrolls our club, for whatever it takes to get the players WE WANT did it.
Stop being a bunch of nobs, Hughes was shit, end of. The only mistake the Sheik made was getting Mancini in.
Hughes would never have got us where we wanted, same as Bob won't.

Unfortunately, we need to change Manager again. So lets just suck it and see until the end of the season, as there is no way Mancini will be replaced between now and then.


You thought Hughes was shit so you're not arsed he gone, that's fine but I didn't & was very happy, so I am arsed he's gone which I'm entitled to be & yep, we have to wait another season but I think we've chucked this season down the shitter.


I feel the same - that's why I feel so angry. Not because we lost to Stoke. Not because I'm in love with Mark Hughes and lick his bumhole when the opportunity arises. Not because I hate Roberto Mancini because he used to play for Sampdoria and hes' a CUNT.

I'm angry because we have thrown away what was a very entertaining and exciting season by making the WRONG decision AGAIN. All the money in the world doesn't seem to stop this club destroying fans' hopes.

As most of you know from the years I've been on this board I've always been hopeful and optimistic even when we hadn't two washers to rub together and I think I actually prayed for Mido to sign at one point.... now I feel so deflated by the cock up we made.

I laughed it off when it was said last year, but now I'm genuinely fearful that if the dross and negative press continues, along with a barren trophy cabinet, the sheikh will eventually say enough's enough.

And I honestly couldn't blame him.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby Mike J » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:00 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Bingo Lewis wrote:What the fuck are you lot going at each other for?
mancityfans.net didn't get Hughes sacked. We didn't get Mancini appointed.
The guy who bankrolls our club, for whatever it takes to get the players WE WANT did it.
Stop being a bunch of nobs, Hughes was shit, end of. The only mistake the Sheik made was getting Mancini in.
Hughes would never have got us where we wanted, same as Bob won't.

Unfortunately, we need to change Manager again. So lets just suck it and see until the end of the season, as there is no way Mancini will be replaced between now and then.


You thought Hughes was shit so you're not arsed he gone, that's fine but I didn't & was very happy, so I am arsed he's gone which I'm entitled to be & yep, we have to wait another season but I think we've chucked this season down the shitter.


I feel the same - that's why I feel so angry. Not because we lost to Stoke. Not because I'm in love with Mark Hughes and lick his bumhole when the opportunity arises. Not because I hate Roberto Mancini because he used to play for Sampdoria and hes' a CUNT.

I'm angry because we have thrown away what was a very entertaining and exciting season by making the WRONG decision AGAIN. All the money in the world doesn't seem to stop this club destroying fans' hopes.

As most of you know from the years I've been on this board I've always been hopeful and optimistic even when we hadn't two washers to rub together and I think I actually prayed for Mido to sign at one point.... now I feel so deflated by the cock up we made.

I laughed it off when it was said last year, but now I'm genuinely fearful that if the dross and negative press continues, along with a barren trophy cabinet, the sheikh will eventually say enough's enough.

And I honestly couldn't blame him.

this is my major worry.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby the_georgian_genius » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:08 pm

Original Dub wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Bingo Lewis wrote:What the fuck are you lot going at each other for?
mancityfans.net didn't get Hughes sacked. We didn't get Mancini appointed.
The guy who bankrolls our club, for whatever it takes to get the players WE WANT did it.
Stop being a bunch of nobs, Hughes was shit, end of. The only mistake the Sheik made was getting Mancini in.
Hughes would never have got us where we wanted, same as Bob won't.

Unfortunately, we need to change Manager again. So lets just suck it and see until the end of the season, as there is no way Mancini will be replaced between now and then.


You thought Hughes was shit so you're not arsed he gone, that's fine but I didn't & was very happy, so I am arsed he's gone which I'm entitled to be & yep, we have to wait another season but I think we've chucked this season down the shitter.


I feel the same - that's why I feel so angry. Not because we lost to Stoke. Not because I'm in love with Mark Hughes and lick his bumhole when the opportunity arises. Not because I hate Roberto Mancini because he used to play for Sampdoria and hes' a CUNT.

I'm angry because we have thrown away what was a very entertaining and exciting season by making the WRONG decision AGAIN. All the money in the world doesn't seem to stop this club destroying fans' hopes.

As most of you know from the years I've been on this board I've always been hopeful and optimistic even when we hadn't two washers to rub together and I think I actually prayed for Mido to sign at one point.... now I feel so deflated by the cock up we made.

I laughed it off when it was said last year, but now I'm genuinely fearful that if the dross and negative press continues, along with a barren trophy cabinet, the sheikh will eventually say enough's enough.

And I honestly couldn't blame him.


Firstly there is 12 games left to go and we are in pole posistion, hardly going down the shitter, we are in a better posistion now than when Hughes was here so on that basis has the whole season been going down the shitter since game 1?

Secondly if you don't want the sheik to say enough is enough then we should hope he gives this club some stability and gives a manager 2-3 years to build a side, you can't expect trophies and succes sacking managers 3 months into their reign.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby Im_Spartacus » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:08 pm

Mike J wrote:
Original Dub wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Bingo Lewis wrote:What the fuck are you lot going at each other for?
mancityfans.net didn't get Hughes sacked. We didn't get Mancini appointed.
The guy who bankrolls our club, for whatever it takes to get the players WE WANT did it.
Stop being a bunch of nobs, Hughes was shit, end of. The only mistake the Sheik made was getting Mancini in.
Hughes would never have got us where we wanted, same as Bob won't.

Unfortunately, we need to change Manager again. So lets just suck it and see until the end of the season, as there is no way Mancini will be replaced between now and then.


You thought Hughes was shit so you're not arsed he gone, that's fine but I didn't & was very happy, so I am arsed he's gone which I'm entitled to be & yep, we have to wait another season but I think we've chucked this season down the shitter.


I feel the same - that's why I feel so angry. Not because we lost to Stoke. Not because I'm in love with Mark Hughes and lick his bumhole when the opportunity arises. Not because I hate Roberto Mancini because he used to play for Sampdoria and hes' a CUNT.

I'm angry because we have thrown away what was a very entertaining and exciting season by making the WRONG decision AGAIN. All the money in the world doesn't seem to stop this club destroying fans' hopes.

As most of you know from the years I've been on this board I've always been hopeful and optimistic even when we hadn't two washers to rub together and I think I actually prayed for Mido to sign at one point.... now I feel so deflated by the cock up we made.

I laughed it off when it was said last year, but now I'm genuinely fearful that if the dross and negative press continues, along with a barren trophy cabinet, the sheikh will eventually say enough's enough.

And I honestly couldn't blame him.

this is my major worry.


And do what?

He can't sell the club
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby Bluez » Thu Feb 25, 2010 12:09 pm

johnpb78 wrote:20 minutes after the game, there were nearly 500 people on this board no doubt most attracted by the scent of blood.

I sense a real danger, as no doubt many others do that the board is in danger could deteriorate into a worse mess than we had before xmas, and throughout last year as certain feuds from that era are clearly continuing. Personally, as one of the "haters" I know how strongly people can feel about a manager who they feel just isnt doing their club justice, and I think Mancini is proving to be a grade F "fail" at the moment, in my eyes doing an even worse job than Hughes was, but as I think CTK raised in a post last night, the one upmanship engaged in by some posters on this thread in particular is embarrassing.

The very same people calling for stability last year, who were after 2/3 games under Mancini whining that NQDP, Socrates or whoever else told us that Mancini was the second coming were "posting out of smugness", are now posting out of the same smugness that actually "they got it right", "Hughes should have stayed" etc etc, and blaming those people for the predicament we are now in - which if you want to split hairs, is actually higher in the league than we were when Hughes went and thus closer to the goal Mancini was appointed for.

End of the day, its irrelevant, as he was sacked, and it had nothing to do with what anyone on here said or felt, it was because the chairman did not think he was the man to take us where he wanted us to go. I would add that this owner, chairman and board have NO connection to any past Manchester City regime, and therefore the accusations that this is TYPICAL City sacking yet another manager, are also unfounded, they made their decision to remove Hughes from their own view of what was going on, not because it is Man City's way to sack managers after 5 minutes.

I'd also like to close down the myth that a "large number" of people held this view about Mancini being the second coming - bullshit, the number in the Mancini lobbying group (those who actively voiced support for Mancini long before Hughes was sacked) was in low single digit numbers. Funnily enough the group who wanted Hughes out from the start for being a rag was also in the low single digits (some were even the same people in both groups). The original thread when Hughes was appointed is documentary proof there were maybe a handful of people who were against hughes because of a "non-footballing agenda", yet that has also been lied about constantly by some posters to suit their own ends, suggesting that anyone who wanted Hughes out was "just because he was a rag", or anyone who now supports Mancini is doing so because "they were the ones who wanted Hughes sacked" which by and large is a total falsehood.

In both cases, the myth perpetuated from a few posters that both these groups were huge from the very start, which is a blatent lie. The vast majority who opposed Hughes formed their view on watching what happened on the pitch, just as now, people are forming their opinions on Mancini based on the same reasons. It would be better all round therefore if people stopped lying about the numbers of people who had pre-conceived ideas about a manager, just to suit whatever agenda they want to peddle, or to find a group of people to blame

I'm all for criticism of a manager when it is warranted, and will join the rest in being vocal about the shite we are seeing at the moment, but please can people stop this silly points scoring about who is right and who was wrong about Hughes. The fact is, all evidence is pointing towards us going backwards, and ultimately if Mancini fails to deliver, he will be gone in the summer.

That is again, not us pressing the panic button and being typical city as some would like to think, but an admission that we appointed the wrong man.


Excellent post. The problems you mention were exagerated mainly because there were a handful of posters making 1000's of posts on the same issue, making it seem like it was bigger than it was becasue it appeared so often, not because so many people were writing.

My biggest frustration is Mancini was brought in as a instant fix to ensure 4th place this season, as that is looking less likely it essentially means the club went through all that bad press for nothing, and will go through it again when then change manager again in the summer. I want to see this long term plan we were told about.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby avoidconfusion » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:12 am

I don't think the owners will leave. Why would they. The club is definitely progressing. Only 2-3 years ago we were closer to relegation than we were to the top 4.

Things might not be perfect but I would think that the owners knew that they won't win the League within 24 month. They said themselves that this is a 10 year project and I think despite all the shit that is happening and all the wasted opportunities, if you really look at it we progressed immensely in the last 18 months. Yes it has come to a bit of a halt now but I think that is temporary.

I actually hope they give Mancini at least as much time as they gave Hughes, yes our football is crap at the moment but the optimist in me hopes that this is just temporary as well until Mancini gets 3-4 players in that he wants especially in midfield.

We look 10 times better defensively already. Here is to hoping that he will work on our attack next.
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby Ted Hughes » Fri Feb 26, 2010 10:44 am

avoidconfusion wrote:I don't think the owners will leave. Why would they. The club is definitely progressing. Only 2-3 years ago we were closer to relegation than we were to the top 4.

Things might not be perfect but I would think that the owners knew that they won't win the League within 24 month. They said themselves that this is a 10 year project and I think despite all the shit that is happening and all the wasted opportunities, if you really look at it we progressed immensely in the last 18 months. Yes it has come to a bit of a halt now but I think that is temporary.

I actually hope they give Mancini at least as much time as they gave Hughes, yes our football is crap at the moment but the optimist in me hopes that this is just temporary as well until Mancini gets 3-4 players in that he wants especially in midfield.

We look 10 times better defensively already. Here is to hoping that he will work on our attack next.


If he's good enough he should be able to prove it now. If the team was struggling in the bottom half when he came then fair enough, we could expect a long, difficult process of change but that wasn't the case, the team had just won 3 out of 5 games & was in a cup semi, he was (apparently) brought in to put the finishing touches to a decent side to propel it to the top.

If he turns this current rubbish back into a team & does well from now on then he deserves another chance next season (but I don't think he'll get one) If he can't do better with this squad now though, why should he be any better next season? Why shouldn't he be able to at least get us playing decent football now?
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Re: Laughing Stock

Postby BobKowalski » Fri Feb 26, 2010 12:00 pm

I think its a tad premature to wonder if Sheikh Mansour is going to bail especially when you consider that this is his first full season as owner and as first seasons go its not been a bad one. Reasonable cup runs and 5th in the table (or joint 4th for those feeling bullish) at the end of Feb. Lots of activity behind the scenes and talk of redevelopment of the area around the stadium and lets face it such redevelopment is one of his reasons for picking City to pump his billions into so whilst we are all running around gripped by mass hysteria I don't think the Sheikh is going to be that displeased with the current situation on or off the pitch as he tucks into his morning cornflakes.

Also I think the fact that the Sheikh has never set foot in Manchester let alone the club affords him a certain cool detachment when reviewing matters and ensures that when he makes a move (ie ditching Hughes) that his guys on the ground cop all the flak. Well Cook in the main but hey he gets well paid for his troubles.
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