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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby nottsblue » Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:40 am

johnny crossan wrote:This rugby writing Times shill is married to an Arsenal chief commercial officer Julia Sclott
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So an unbiased article then.......
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby salford city » Wed Jun 05, 2024 10:51 am

No conflict of interest or sense of bias here then?^^^^^^^^
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Re: City take the PL to Court

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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:07 am

Fuck me we are getting some shit thrown at us since the announcement of legal action. Holt has done a real number on us, saying we are challenging democracy, because we say we are threatened by the the “tyranny of the majority”
It really is getting very silly, be interesting how this plays out
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby salford city » Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:28 am

Harry Dowd scored wrote:Fuck me we are getting some shit thrown at us since the announcement of legal action. Holt has done a real number on us, saying we are challenging democracy, because we say we are threatened by the the “tyranny of the majority”
It really is getting very silly, be interesting how this plays out


Looking at the beeb comments and you wonder what fans of the non red top clubs want. All I'm seeing is city have more money of course they don't agree. WHY the fuck would we or should we agree to something that was ONLY passed to stop us and benefit the cartel. What benefit to the lesser clubs is there in stopping our spending other than to guarantee a red top dominance once more. We have kicked up a right shit-storm good for us
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:33 am

zuricity wrote:The problem most of you guys have , is that you live in Broken Britain. I have not got a clue what Carl does for a living , but i can tell you all, working within several governments , is complicated. Carl knows this and i agree. If what you are doing is fair and above board you will persevere and win.

All along City has been fair with the PL and the FA


I am sure that 1) our owner will get the best advice , at what ever cost - he can afford it .
2) our owner is a very patient man, he can wait.
3) Nothing will be forgotten.

The rags, scouse and Arse cohorts will get their comeuppance. Make no mistake.


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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby Nigels Tackle » Wed Jun 05, 2024 11:56 am

reading some interesting stuff about AIG sponsoring the rags...

i always thought it was weird at the time because AIG are not a consumer brand so why would they want to spend a, then, record amount sponsoring the rags... it was around 25% a year higher than samsung were paying chelsea...

it transpires that AIG had a stake in the hedge fund that backed the glazer's takeover!
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby nottsblue » Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:21 pm

Nigels Tackle wrote:reading some interesting stuff about AIG sponsoring the rags...

i always thought it was weird at the time because AIG are not a consumer brand so why would they want to spend a, then, record amount sponsoring the rags... it was around 25% a year higher than samsung were paying chelsea...

it transpires that iag had a stake in the hedge fund that backed the glazer's takeover!

The Chevrolet sponsorship was a bit fishy as well if I recall.

Maybe it will all come out in court about a lot of sponsorship deals not being all above board?
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby sheblue » Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:36 pm

The levels of hate today are off the scale, suppose that's not very surprising. I am just glad were showing some teeth at last. Of course its very interesting to see how this plays out. On the face of it, it seems simple, either the premier leagues rules contravene competition law or they do not. I am no barrister but it looks to me that the PL may have an issue here, thinking that they are above the law, making up rules as they go along.
But who is the arbitrator? Arsene Wenger?
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby belleebee » Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:36 pm

nottsblue wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:reading some interesting stuff about AIG sponsoring the rags...

i always thought it was weird at the time because AIG are not a consumer brand so why would they want to spend a, then, record amount sponsoring the rags... it was around 25% a year higher than samsung were paying chelsea...

it transpires that iag had a stake in the hedge fund that backed the glazer's takeover!

The Chevrolet sponsorship was a bit fishy as well if I recall.

Maybe it will all come out in court about a lot of sponsorship deals not being all above board?


Similar story re TeamViewer too.
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:37 pm

salford city wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Fuck me we are getting some shit thrown at us since the announcement of legal action. Holt has done a real number on us, saying we are challenging democracy, because we say we are threatened by the the “tyranny of the majority”
It really is getting very silly, be interesting how this plays out


Looking at the beeb comments and you wonder what fans of the non red top clubs want. All I'm seeing is city have more money of course they don't agree. WHY the fuck would we or should we agree to something that was ONLY passed to stop us and benefit the cartel. What benefit to the lesser clubs is there in stopping our spending other than to guarantee a red top dominance once more. We have kicked up a right shit-storm good for us

Look at this from Holt

If Manchester City win this case we might as well move Premier League headquarters to the Etihad, writes OLIVER HOLT

He should never be allowed at City games again
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby salford city » Wed Jun 05, 2024 12:42 pm

Harry Dowd scored wrote:
salford city wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Fuck me we are getting some shit thrown at us since the announcement of legal action. Holt has done a real number on us, saying we are challenging democracy, because we say we are threatened by the the “tyranny of the majority”
It really is getting very silly, be interesting how this plays out


Looking at the beeb comments and you wonder what fans of the non red top clubs want. All I'm seeing is city have more money of course they don't agree. WHY the fuck would we or should we agree to something that was ONLY passed to stop us and benefit the cartel. What benefit to the lesser clubs is there in stopping our spending other than to guarantee a red top dominance once more. We have kicked up a right shit-storm good for us

Look at this from Holt

If Manchester City win this case we might as well move Premier League headquarters to the Etihad, writes OLIVER HOLT

He should never be allowed at City games again


Emily Bishop has a lot to answer for with her son. Agreed that we should put him at the top of the not welcome list
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Wed Jun 05, 2024 1:07 pm

BOOM! It had to happen! Said for a long time that
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best form of defence on those 115 charges was to attack the #EPL on grounds of anti competition & discrimination. The #Cartel that blights English Football won’t run a law court! Good Luck to #CITY
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That was from a Newcastle fans group

Not all against us it seems
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby BlueinBosnia » Wed Jun 05, 2024 2:39 pm

salford city wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Fuck me we are getting some shit thrown at us since the announcement of legal action. Holt has done a real number on us, saying we are challenging democracy, because we say we are threatened by the the “tyranny of the majority”
It really is getting very silly, be interesting how this plays out


Looking at the beeb comments and you wonder what fans of the non red top clubs want. All I'm seeing is city have more money of course they don't agree. WHY the fuck would we or should we agree to something that was ONLY passed to stop us and benefit the cartel. What benefit to the lesser clubs is there in stopping our spending other than to guarantee a red top dominance once more. We have kicked up a right shit-storm good for us


The other issue is being pushed further down the pecking order, I'd have thought. Teams that aim for mid-table safety won't be able to do that any more if there are 12-14 clubs in the Football League with virtually unlimited backing (and there's only a finite amount of clubs this can happen to, with some pretty much dead certs to never receive investment; who's going to pump hundreds of millions into Mansfield or Lincoln?). Clubs without any hope of increasing their revenues and/or attracting major investment wouldn't be able to use this approach any more. A bit further down the table, there'd be a few more yo-yo clubs, meaning the parachute payments would go less far in the Championship, which could cause real trouble for some clubs' owners. Having said that, Blackburn seem to be plodding happily along, still owned by Venky's...
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Re: City take the PL to Court

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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby zuricity » Wed Jun 05, 2024 4:58 pm

belleebee wrote:
nottsblue wrote:
Nigels Tackle wrote:reading some interesting stuff about AIG sponsoring the rags...

i always thought it was weird at the time because AIG are not a consumer brand so why would they want to spend a, then, record amount sponsoring the rags... it was around 25% a year higher than samsung were paying chelsea...

it transpires that iag had a stake in the hedge fund that backed the glazer's takeover!

The Chevrolet sponsorship was a bit fishy as well if I recall.

Maybe it will all come out in court about a lot of sponsorship deals not being all above board?


Similar story re TeamViewer too.


Teamviewer , Developed by many cheaply paid Indian workers not far from Stuttgart.

I have a friend in England whose father was phoned from Somewhere in India about a problem with a bank account. They told him to download the Teamview software. He, not aware that they could swipe all his input data using teamviewer, did so. Fortunately he stopped after the install , thinking it might be a scam , checked with my friend , who then immediately asked me - I told them to drop the call.

My late Mother in Law would gets calls from Bangalore telling her ( she's was over 80 at the time with no computer) , she had a problem with her windows.
she just said , no thanks , i have just had double glazing put in , thinking they were Housing types selling windows and doors from far away.

Teamviewer - if you are wondering how Bangalore gets hold of our your data. I have witnessed banks sending complete systems to run in Bangalore. Even with encrypted data ! It is pretty pointless if you enable them to read the encryption program code too ! which has been done in the past.

It is even worse if you ask them to write the encryption code for you !

What about Scouses Standard chartered deal ?
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby zuricity » Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:10 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
salford city wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Fuck me we are getting some shit thrown at us since the announcement of legal action. Holt has done a real number on us, saying we are challenging democracy, because we say we are threatened by the the “tyranny of the majority”
It really is getting very silly, be interesting how this plays out


Looking at the beeb comments and you wonder what fans of the non red top clubs want. All I'm seeing is city have more money of course they don't agree. WHY the fuck would we or should we agree to something that was ONLY passed to stop us and benefit the cartel. What benefit to the lesser clubs is there in stopping our spending other than to guarantee a red top dominance once more. We have kicked up a right shit-storm good for us


The other issue is being pushed further down the pecking order, I'd have thought. Teams that aim for mid-table safety won't be able to do that any more if there are 12-14 clubs in the Football League with virtually unlimited backing (and there's only a finite amount of clubs this can happen to, with some pretty much dead certs to never receive investment; who's going to pump hundreds of millions into Mansfield or Lincoln?). Clubs without any hope of increasing their revenues and/or attracting major investment wouldn't be able to use this approach any more. A bit further down the table, there'd be a few more yo-yo clubs, meaning the parachute payments would go less far in the Championship, which could cause real trouble for some clubs' owners. Having said that, Blackburn seem to be plodding happily along, still owned by Venky's...



Not so sure, The Guy that owns SAP bought into a local team , now in the Bundesliga. I know of one guy from Stafford made it big with Apple. could see him propping up Stafford Rangers - to the PL though ?? :-)
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby BlueinBosnia » Wed Jun 05, 2024 5:52 pm

zuricity wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
salford city wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Fuck me we are getting some shit thrown at us since the announcement of legal action. Holt has done a real number on us, saying we are challenging democracy, because we say we are threatened by the the “tyranny of the majority”
It really is getting very silly, be interesting how this plays out


Looking at the beeb comments and you wonder what fans of the non red top clubs want. All I'm seeing is city have more money of course they don't agree. WHY the fuck would we or should we agree to something that was ONLY passed to stop us and benefit the cartel. What benefit to the lesser clubs is there in stopping our spending other than to guarantee a red top dominance once more. We have kicked up a right shit-storm good for us


The other issue is being pushed further down the pecking order, I'd have thought. Teams that aim for mid-table safety won't be able to do that any more if there are 12-14 clubs in the Football League with virtually unlimited backing (and there's only a finite amount of clubs this can happen to, with some pretty much dead certs to never receive investment; who's going to pump hundreds of millions into Mansfield or Lincoln?). Clubs without any hope of increasing their revenues and/or attracting major investment wouldn't be able to use this approach any more. A bit further down the table, there'd be a few more yo-yo clubs, meaning the parachute payments would go less far in the Championship, which could cause real trouble for some clubs' owners. Having said that, Blackburn seem to be plodding happily along, still owned by Venky's...



Not so sure, The Guy that owns SAP bought into a local team , now in the Bundesliga. I know of one guy from Stafford made it big with Apple. could see him propping up Stafford Rangers - to the PL though ?? :-)


There are plenty of 'local guy done good' (plus one 'Hollywood stars done Disney+ and TikTok') stories around, which could probably elevate a team from nowhere to League One/Two standard, but there are very, very few that could compete with the likes of sovereign wealth funds and holding conglomerates. Even then, the more 'haves' involved, the more difficult it is for the 'have nots' to sit comfy. Imagine 30 teams with billions invested - there'd be 20 in the Prem, and 10 in the Championship vying for promotion places, while the likes of Everton and Crystal Palace (if they were on the losing side of the investment rush) would be slogging it out against Plymouth Argyle in an untelevised Tuesday night match for a mid-table Championship place.
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby zuricity » Wed Jun 05, 2024 6:09 pm

BlueinBosnia wrote:
zuricity wrote:
BlueinBosnia wrote:
salford city wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Fuck me we are getting some shit thrown at us since the announcement of legal action. Holt has done a real number on us, saying we are challenging democracy, because we say we are threatened by the the “tyranny of the majority”
It really is getting very silly, be interesting how this plays out


Looking at the beeb comments and you wonder what fans of the non red top clubs want. All I'm seeing is city have more money of course they don't agree. WHY the fuck would we or should we agree to something that was ONLY passed to stop us and benefit the cartel. What benefit to the lesser clubs is there in stopping our spending other than to guarantee a red top dominance once more. We have kicked up a right shit-storm good for us


The other issue is being pushed further down the pecking order, I'd have thought. Teams that aim for mid-table safety won't be able to do that any more if there are 12-14 clubs in the Football League with virtually unlimited backing (and there's only a finite amount of clubs this can happen to, with some pretty much dead certs to never receive investment; who's going to pump hundreds of millions into Mansfield or Lincoln?). Clubs without any hope of increasing their revenues and/or attracting major investment wouldn't be able to use this approach any more. A bit further down the table, there'd be a few more yo-yo clubs, meaning the parachute payments would go less far in the Championship, which could cause real trouble for some clubs' owners. Having said that, Blackburn seem to be plodding happily along, still owned by Venky's...



Not so sure, The Guy that owns SAP bought into a local team , now in the Bundesliga. I know of one guy from Stafford made it big with Apple. could see him propping up Stafford Rangers - to the PL though ?? :-)


There are plenty of 'local guy done good' (plus one 'Hollywood stars done Disney+ and TikTok') stories around, which could probably elevate a team from nowhere to League One/Two standard, but there are very, very few that could compete with the likes of sovereign wealth funds and holding conglomerates. Even then, the more 'haves' involved, the more difficult it is for the 'have nots' to sit comfy. Imagine 30 teams with billions invested - there'd be 20 in the Prem, and 10 in the Championship vying for promotion places, while the likes of Everton and Crystal Palace (if they were on the losing side of the investment rush) would be slogging it out against Plymouth Argyle in an untelevised Tuesday night match for a mid-table Championship place.


Everton and palace on a tuesday night relegated.sounds a good strategy then.
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Re: City take the PL to Court

Postby Harry Dowd scored » Wed Jun 05, 2024 7:16 pm

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