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Re: Pep Out?

Postby zuricity » Sun Dec 15, 2024 9:50 pm

Mase wrote:
zuricity wrote:
sheblue wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:Just watching Chelsea Palmer having a storming game.


And news couldn't get any better today.


Palmer and Sancho did nothing in the second half. Brentford were unlucky not to come away with a point. Chavs cooking with water.


Both Palmer and Sancho are better than Doku and Savio.


Both still went missing. It is not about who is better than who , rather the fact that someone thinks Palmer was having a stormer, when in my opinion he
was drop dead average today. His kit doesn't need washing.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby Outcast » Sun Dec 15, 2024 9:51 pm

zuricity wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:
Indianablue wrote:Pep has no fucking credit left in the bank surely. His record over the last few weeks and the manner in which points and games have been recklessly thrown away is sacking territory for any manager. Plenty of managers would have been fucked off by now.
Take your cigars, wooly jumpers and fucking go.

Think this sums it up, credit in bank exhausted, something needs done, can't go on like we are.


Rubbish, he has lots of credit in the bank. knee jerk reactions and comments do not help. We can't win all the games , all the time. Let's be realistic here.

We will see if Pep is a good manager or not if he can turn it around. Before Gündo came back we were cruising. Gündo is busted he is not a midfield general anymore. Sorry but he should be coming on, like Modric at Real, to help close down the last 10 minutes.



It would be nice to win again. You can't call it knee jerk reaction. I've not seen any improvements and Pep stubbornly presisting with players that shouldn't even be on the bench nevermind starting 11.

I still haven't voted yet, I can't ignore all his past success but on the other hand can't ignore current performances. He has to shoulder most of the blame
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby zuricity » Sun Dec 15, 2024 9:59 pm

Outcast wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Harry Dowd scored wrote:
Indianablue wrote:Pep has no fucking credit left in the bank surely. His record over the last few weeks and the manner in which points and games have been recklessly thrown away is sacking territory for any manager. Plenty of managers would have been fucked off by now.
Take your cigars, wooly jumpers and fucking go.

Think this sums it up, credit in bank exhausted, something needs done, can't go on like we are.


Rubbish, he has lots of credit in the bank. knee jerk reactions and comments do not help. We can't win all the games , all the time. Let's be realistic here.

We will see if Pep is a good manager or not if he can turn it around. Before Gündo came back we were cruising. Gündo is busted he is not a midfield general anymore. Sorry but he should be coming on, like Modric at Real, to help close down the last 10 minutes.



It would be nice to win again. You can't call it knee jerk reaction. I've not seen any improvements and Pep stubbornly presisting with players that shouldn't even be on the bench nevermind starting 11.

I still haven't voted yet, I can't ignore all his past success but on the other hand can't ignore current performances. He has to shoulder most of the blame


Yes I can call it a knee jerk reaction if i want to.
Because i think it is.
We may have to write this season off to rebuild correctly.
Besides , The CL as it stands is a farce. So perhaps going for a Cup we haven't won might be good fun, at least not having to go to boring Madrid , München or Paris.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby Indianablue » Sun Dec 15, 2024 9:59 pm

ayrshireblue wrote:
zuricity wrote:
ayrshireblue wrote:
zuricity wrote:
Indianablue wrote:Pep has no fucking credit left in the bank surely. His record over the last few weeks and the manner in which points and games have been recklessly thrown away is sacking territory for any manager. Plenty of managers would have been fucked off by now.
Take your cigars, wooly jumpers and fucking go.


Changing the manager is not the solution. The rags were two minutes away from a third straight PL loss until Nunes helped his old mate.

But those two minutes happened. United have won the derby and we've won one of eleven games so why would you not change the manager? If his name wasn't Pep Guardiola there wouldn't even be a question, he'd be gone.


And you would like to see ?? as manager ?


Xavi Hernandez, Xabi Alonso or someone else with a more direct, easy on the eyes style of play. Someone who plays the game like Guardiola did between 2017 and 2022. Wingers to take on their men, strikers to attack the box, defenders to defend. There will always be options out there. Guardiola is not and never was the only show in town. But if you think he is and you've seen something in these last 11 games, or even longer if you include the turgid crap we've played all season then you're entitled to want him to stay.

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Re: Pep Out?

Postby stupot » Sun Dec 15, 2024 10:39 pm

Is it. Hernandez, Alonso or someone else.
Pretty sure Alonso is nailed on for Madrid at the end of the season so Hernandez or someone else. Who
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby Mase » Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:19 am

stupot wrote:Is it. Hernandez, Alonso or someone else.
Pretty sure Alonso is nailed on for Madrid at the end of the season so Hernandez or someone else. Who


Someone like Slot? Or someone internal like Arteta or Maresca? There’s people out there - it’s up to the board to sort Pep’s successor, not us. There’s life after Pep and it might involve playing kids more, not buying the likes of Nunes and Phillips.

Pep’s won us 4 in a row, which is crazy. But let’s not forget the club have given him that opportunity to do that. He’s had his mates here and had all the support he’s needed. He’s never won 4 in a row anywhere else. I’d say he owes the club just as much as we owe Pep.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Mon Dec 16, 2024 7:47 am

Mase wrote:
stupot wrote:Is it. Hernandez, Alonso or someone else.
Pretty sure Alonso is nailed on for Madrid at the end of the season so Hernandez or someone else. Who


Someone like Slot? Or someone internal like Arteta or Maresca? There’s people out there - it’s up to the board to sort Pep’s successor, not us. There’s life after Pep and it might involve playing kids more, not buying the likes of Nunes and Phillips.

Pep’s won us 4 in a row, which is crazy. But let’s not forget the club have given him that opportunity to do that. He’s had his mates here and had all the support he’s needed. He’s never won 4 in a row anywhere else. I’d say he owes the club just as much as we owe Pep.


According to one of pep's disciples PeP has had it harder than anyone else ! that's how fucking deluded some fans are !!
If PeP fucks off then he does so leaving behind a shit team that needs to be rebuilt by the new incoming manager - It wasn't supposed to be like this and the spafia and Pep are to blame for having us in this position in the first place so he either sorts it out between now and the end of the season and gives us CL football next season or he resigns or is sacked.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby stupot » Mon Dec 16, 2024 8:56 am

Mase wrote:
stupot wrote:Is it. Hernandez, Alonso or someone else.
Pretty sure Alonso is nailed on for Madrid at the end of the season so Hernandez or someone else. Who


Someone like Slot? Or someone internal like Arteta or Maresca? There’s people out there - it’s up to the board to sort Pep’s successor, not us. There’s life after Pep and it might involve playing kids more, not buying the likes of Nunes and Phillips.

Pep’s won us 4 in a row, which is crazy. But let’s not forget the club have given him that opportunity to do that. He’s had his mates here and had all the support he’s needed. He’s never won 4 in a row anywhere else. I’d say he owes the club just as much as we owe Pep.

Liverpool gave Klopp the opportunity, united gave fergie the opportunity. Taking it is something else.
Maresca is doing a good job at the minute but the Leicester fans were all calling him 2nd half of last season. He can also rest his whole team for the conference european league they're in. Arteta has loads of Arsenal fans not happy with him.
Slot's in a honeymoon period at the minute made easier by the fact every team around him is failing.He;s still blown the last 2 games.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby zabbadabbado » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:01 pm

Nobody wants Pep sacked after all the success he has delivered us.

Fact is though, this season he has been way short of what should be expected from an elite manager.

Sure injuries have played a part in our down turn in form. But come on though...........,this Guy allegedly earns £25,000 000 a Season to manage us. We lose Rodri and the Wheels have completely come off. It is like he dose not have a fucking clue how to set us up right. It is really disturbing watching him make the same mistakes game after game. Picks walker with the Clown averaging two major fuck ups every game, picks Lewis to run around like a broken Duracell Bunny leaving us over exposed at the back. Still plays the stupid high line despite the squad obvious limitations because of age. I mean seriously, there are zero signs he knows how to adapt to what he has available get the best out of the Squad.

Reports starting to leak that our dressing room has become a toxic place. Some players are done with his crying and histrionics. Not sure how accurate it is but rumours Haalland has allegedly lost faith in the project and wants his Agent to sort out a move to Barcelona or Madrid next season. Tbh i am not sure how i feel about this if true. Sure he is a great player when he can be bothered, he gives me high maintenance Diva vibes with his body language. His Opta Stas suggest he can not be arsed lately. You have to be an idiot to believe all is well in our Camp right now. This slump is more than injuries.


In an ideal World Pep will fix this, but really can he ?.If some of the Players the players are done with him, how do we move forward ?

Spending £200 000 000 in January on a couple of average Premier League players is going to achieve nothing short term. We already have so much dead wood, and aging players to move on.

Likely we will need a period of transition where we will challenge for Top 4 whilst we wheel and deal in the transfer market.

Probably 3,4, good solid transfer Windows.

Pep is only committed for the next 2 years. It will take all that time just to fix this mess we are in.

Is it really a good idea panic buying in January, wasting money on average players, I don't think so.

Pep should be making the "Sum bigger than its parts ",and is failing miserably. This Squad is top 4 material, and we should be capable of achieving it with what we have as a bare minimum.

He is responsible with his shit tactics, shit game management ,egotistical stubbornness for compounding our major slump in form.

I don't want him to go.I would prefer he stay and sort this mess out. Fact is though i am not sure he can get us challenging in the next 2 years.

One has to do what is best for our Club, there is no room for sentiment in Football. Currently we are in Freefall. And none of us want to accept the reality of our situation because he is our Pep.Reality being we are in relegation form right now. With a manager who looks lost, is losing the Plot and the dressing room.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue Dec 17, 2024 6:46 pm

zabbadabbado wrote:Nobody wants Pep sacked after all the success he has delivered us.

Fact is though, this season he has been way short of what should be expected from an elite manager.

Sure injuries have played a part in our down turn in form. But come on though...........,this Guy allegedly earns £25,000 000 a Season to manage us. We lose Rodri and the Wheels have completely come off. It is like he dose not have a fucking clue how to set us up right. It is really disturbing watching him make the same mistakes game after game. Picks walker with the Clown averaging two major fuck ups every game, picks Lewis to run around like a broken Duracell Bunny leaving us over exposed at the back. Still plays the stupid high line despite the squad obvious limitations because of age. I mean seriously, there are zero signs he knows how to adapt to what he has available get the best out of the Squad.

Reports starting to leak that our dressing room has become a toxic place. Some players are done with his crying and histrionics. Not sure how accurate it is but rumours Haalland has allegedly lost faith in the project and wants his Agent to sort out a move to Barcelona or Madrid next season. Tbh i am not sure how i feel about this if true. Sure he is a great player when he can be bothered, he gives me high maintenance Diva vibes with his body language. His Opta Stas suggest he can not be arsed lately. You have to be an idiot to believe all is well in our Camp right now. This slump is more than injuries.


In an ideal World Pep will fix this, but really can he ?.If some of the Players the players are done with him, how do we move forward ?

Spending £200 000 000 in January on a couple of average Premier League players is going to achieve nothing short term. We already have so much dead wood, and aging players to move on.

Likely we will need a period of transition where we will challenge for Top 4 whilst we wheel and deal in the transfer market.

Probably 3,4, good solid transfer Windows.

Pep is only committed for the next 2 years. It will take all that time just to fix this mess we are in.

Is it really a good idea panic buying in January, wasting money on average players, I don't think so.

Pep should be making the "Sum bigger than its parts ",and is failing miserably. This Squad is top 4 material, and we should be capable of achieving it with what we have as a bare minimum.

He is responsible with his shit tactics, shit game management ,egotistical stubbornness for compounding our major slump in form.

I don't want him to go.I would prefer he stay and sort this mess out. Fact is though i am not sure he can get us challenging in the next 2 years.

One has to do what is best for our Club, there is no room for sentiment in Football. Currently we are in Freefall. And none of us want to accept the reality of our situation because he is our Pep.Reality being we are in relegation form right now. With a manager who looks lost, is losing the Plot and the dressing room.


Very good post but I think unless pep changes his mentality we will not improve - he only knows one way (or he only wants to play one way ) and we are losing because of it .

Sure he’s the best manager in the world when he has all or most of his top players available but he’s shown us just how shit he is when he doesn’t have them - in all the seasons before we only missed one or 2 players (3max ) and he got away with it - this season he’s had no answer to replacing key players that are injured and instead moves players out of their preferred position to fill in holes they cannot possibly fill .

In reality he should have used his McAtees of the world more but it’s obvious he doesn’t trust them , which is fucking laughable when he keeps on trusting Walker and Gundo and also playing players like Nunes in areas he just cannot perform in .

One thing I’ve said and I’ll say it again - Id give him fuckall to spend in January and wait and see where we are end of the season .If he’s world class with great players available then he should show us that accolade is true when he has lesser skilled players available.

If he has the balls then he should stop crying about how shit he is and get to grips with the situation or step down and have done with it.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby Sparklehorse » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:12 pm

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
zabbadabbado wrote:Nobody wants Pep sacked after all the success he has delivered us.

Fact is though, this season he has been way short of what should be expected from an elite manager.

Sure injuries have played a part in our down turn in form. But come on though...........,this Guy allegedly earns £25,000 000 a Season to manage us. We lose Rodri and the Wheels have completely come off. It is like he dose not have a fucking clue how to set us up right. It is really disturbing watching him make the same mistakes game after game. Picks walker with the Clown averaging two major fuck ups every game, picks Lewis to run around like a broken Duracell Bunny leaving us over exposed at the back. Still plays the stupid high line despite the squad obvious limitations because of age. I mean seriously, there are zero signs he knows how to adapt to what he has available get the best out of the Squad.

Reports starting to leak that our dressing room has become a toxic place. Some players are done with his crying and histrionics. Not sure how accurate it is but rumours Haalland has allegedly lost faith in the project and wants his Agent to sort out a move to Barcelona or Madrid next season. Tbh i am not sure how i feel about this if true. Sure he is a great player when he can be bothered, he gives me high maintenance Diva vibes with his body language. His Opta Stas suggest he can not be arsed lately. You have to be an idiot to believe all is well in our Camp right now. This slump is more than injuries.


In an ideal World Pep will fix this, but really can he ?.If some of the Players the players are done with him, how do we move forward ?

Spending £200 000 000 in January on a couple of average Premier League players is going to achieve nothing short term. We already have so much dead wood, and aging players to move on.

Likely we will need a period of transition where we will challenge for Top 4 whilst we wheel and deal in the transfer market.

Probably 3,4, good solid transfer Windows.

Pep is only committed for the next 2 years. It will take all that time just to fix this mess we are in.

Is it really a good idea panic buying in January, wasting money on average players, I don't think so.

Pep should be making the "Sum bigger than its parts ",and is failing miserably. This Squad is top 4 material, and we should be capable of achieving it with what we have as a bare minimum.

He is responsible with his shit tactics, shit game management ,egotistical stubbornness for compounding our major slump in form.

I don't want him to go.I would prefer he stay and sort this mess out. Fact is though i am not sure he can get us challenging in the next 2 years.

One has to do what is best for our Club, there is no room for sentiment in Football. Currently we are in Freefall. And none of us want to accept the reality of our situation because he is our Pep.Reality being we are in relegation form right now. With a manager who looks lost, is losing the Plot and the dressing room.


Very good post but I think unless pep changes his mentality we will not improve - he only knows one way (or he only wants to play one way ) and we are losing because of it .

Sure he’s the best manager in the world when he has all or most of his top players available but he’s shown us just how shit he is when he doesn’t have them - in all the seasons before we only missed one or 2 players (3max ) and he got away with it - this season he’s had no answer to replacing key players that are injured and instead moves players out of their preferred position to fill in holes they cannot possibly fill .

In reality he should have used his McAtees of the world more but it’s obvious he doesn’t trust them , which is fucking laughable when he keeps on trusting Walker and Gundo and also playing players like Nunes in areas he just cannot perform in .

One thing I’ve said and I’ll say it again - Id give him fuckall to spend in January and wait and see where we are end of the season .

If he’s world class with great players available then he should show us that accolade is true when he has lesser skilled players available .

If he has the balls then he should stop crying about how shit he is and get to grips with the situation or
Step down .


Some great points gents, I would add that Grealish is an attacking midfielder (one that we were prepared to pay £100m for) and he plays him on the wing... to be fair he had one fantastic season there, but out of his 5 years here I'd say he's been an overall failure which is tragic, I think the reason is that pep thinks he's a good time Charlie and doesn't knuckle down as he would wish...there may be an element of truth in that because he still looks as though he hasn't recovered from the treble celebrations. But one thing is certain, Pep hasn't managed to get the best out of him. He's doing the same with Gvardiol, playing him out of his natural position is going to crucify him and of course the constant tinkering with the defence has unravelled, the only one who can hold his head high is Dias and without him we would definitely have lost the Palace game. Don't even get me started on Nunes......all I will say is that he's nowhere , and I mean nowhere near our standard. I've written my piece about Walker on the new thread so won't bother here. Gundo and KDB are clearly past it, we might get the odd good game out of the latter but that party is largely over. Doku and Savinho need to really step up but neither have any confidence at the moment and I've seen nothing from the latter to fill me with any great confidence for the future. We have Bobb and Escheveri to come but really, the cupboard is bare and somehow it's been allowed to happen, I just cannot fathom it. We'll see.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby PeterParker » Tue Dec 17, 2024 7:21 pm

Can I add something else:

There is this idea we were good last season, when the fact is I think we looked the worst winning a title. I think we were in cruise mode after the treble, a level behind 2022-2023. We've lost prime Gundog that summer and failed to replace him, tried with Kovacic, a decent squad player against Luton and Soton, but that was about it and did a panic buy with Nunes (fuck knows why and what recommended him here).

We've won the league, but there was clear something looked off with us. And this summer, we were arrogant. We failed to understand what we did wrong last year and had the idea the ship will cruise again, but in fact we were taking water and now we look like the Titanic.

And I swear, I can't stop thinking is Pep. Because I really doubt it he went to Khaldoon and said he needs this and that and Khaldoon said no. Khaldoon looks like he would go to prison for a murder he didn't do just to keep Pep here.

So I think is his arrogance, his biggest flaw, why we are in this situation now.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby Wooders » Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:12 am

We need to rebuild our squad and this will take at least 2 seasons, ergo, it doesn’t make sense to me to have a manager in place to oversee that then leave the club
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby Indianablue » Wed Dec 18, 2024 8:55 am

PeterParker wrote:Can I add something else:

There is this idea we were good last season, when the fact is I think we looked the worst winning a title. I think we were in cruise mode after the treble, a level behind 2022-2023. We've lost prime Gundog that summer and failed to replace him, tried with Kovacic, a decent squad player against Luton and Soton, but that was about it and did a panic buy with Nunes (fuck knows why and what recommended him here).

We've won the league, but there was clear something looked off with us. And this summer, we were arrogant. We failed to understand what we did wrong last year and had the idea the ship will cruise again, but in fact we were taking water and now we look like the Titanic.

And I swear, I can't stop thinking is Pep. Because I really doubt it he went to Khaldoon and said he needs this and that and Khaldoon said no. Khaldoon looks like he would go to prison for a murder he didn't do just to keep Pep here.

So I think is his arrogance, his biggest flaw, why we are in this situation now.

Complete agree with you PP. Last season fooled alot into thinking we were OK 4 in a row was a great achievement in terms of a record but we failed in CL final, got knocked out of domestic cups by lesser teams and the signs were there in terms of our style of play getting found out. What helped us get 4 in a row then left the club. Haaland has been on a downward slide since he got his PL scoring record in terms of goals per minute, Foden has been completely ineffective this season and players we have bought in have been inconsistent.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby zuricity » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:28 am

Ffs,^^^^^^

Last season we lost in the CL quarter final and lost the FA Cup in the final.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby stupot » Wed Dec 18, 2024 9:48 am

Indianablue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Can I add something else:

There is this idea we were good last season, when the fact is I think we looked the worst winning a title. I think we were in cruise mode after the treble, a level behind 2022-2023. We've lost prime Gundog that summer and failed to replace him, tried with Kovacic, a decent squad player against Luton and Soton, but that was about it and did a panic buy with Nunes (fuck knows why and what recommended him here).

We've won the league, but there was clear something looked off with us. And this summer, we were arrogant. We failed to understand what we did wrong last year and had the idea the ship will cruise again, but in fact we were taking water and now we look like the Titanic.

And I swear, I can't stop thinking is Pep. Because I really doubt it he went to Khaldoon and said he needs this and that and Khaldoon said no. Khaldoon looks like he would go to prison for a murder he didn't do just to keep Pep here.

So I think is his arrogance, his biggest flaw, why we are in this situation now.

Complete agree with you PP. Last season fooled alot into thinking we were OK 4 in a row was a great achievement in terms of a record but we failed in CL final, got knocked out of domestic cups by lesser teams and the signs were there in terms of our style of play getting found out. What helped us get 4 in a row then left the club. Haaland has been on a downward slide since he got his PL scoring record in terms of goals per minute, Foden has been completely ineffective this season and players we have bought in have been inconsistent.
If Pep doesn't can't see the problem he is the problem. It's like the old joke, If you don't know who the thickest cunt in the room is, it's you!!

Did you come out with any of this negative shit last season.
4 in a row was the 1st time in the history of English football.
Lost on pens to RM after being the better team both games.
On for a treble until then.
When was our play found out last season. We lost 3 games in the league. None in Europe..
Haaland was top scorer again last season despite 2 months out.
Any word on Foden's season last year. 20 goals, phenomenal.
The last 2 months have been shit. Don't rewrite history.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby PeterParker » Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:03 am

stupot wrote:
Indianablue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Can I add something else:

There is this idea we were good last season, when the fact is I think we looked the worst winning a title. I think we were in cruise mode after the treble, a level behind 2022-2023. We've lost prime Gundog that summer and failed to replace him, tried with Kovacic, a decent squad player against Luton and Soton, but that was about it and did a panic buy with Nunes (fuck knows why and what recommended him here).

We've won the league, but there was clear something looked off with us. And this summer, we were arrogant. We failed to understand what we did wrong last year and had the idea the ship will cruise again, but in fact we were taking water and now we look like the Titanic.

And I swear, I can't stop thinking is Pep. Because I really doubt it he went to Khaldoon and said he needs this and that and Khaldoon said no. Khaldoon looks like he would go to prison for a murder he didn't do just to keep Pep here.

So I think is his arrogance, his biggest flaw, why we are in this situation now.

Complete agree with you PP. Last season fooled alot into thinking we were OK 4 in a row was a great achievement in terms of a record but we failed in CL final, got knocked out of domestic cups by lesser teams and the signs were there in terms of our style of play getting found out. What helped us get 4 in a row then left the club. Haaland has been on a downward slide since he got his PL scoring record in terms of goals per minute, Foden has been completely ineffective this season and players we have bought in have been inconsistent.
If Pep doesn't can't see the problem he is the problem. It's like the old joke, If you don't know who the thickest cunt in the room is, it's you!!

When was our play found out last season.


If you look back here on the forum, everyone noticed we looked off, even if we won. Not our usual, sure, after a fantastic season. We left Madrid off the hook at home, but I count that as their luck.
Four in a row was historic, but 90% of people here noticed our tempo was different. That is the point of the whole thing.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby stupot » Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:08 am

PeterParker wrote:
stupot wrote:
Indianablue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Can I add something else:

There is this idea we were good last season, when the fact is I think we looked the worst winning a title. I think we were in cruise mode after the treble, a level behind 2022-2023. We've lost prime Gundog that summer and failed to replace him, tried with Kovacic, a decent squad player against Luton and Soton, but that was about it and did a panic buy with Nunes (fuck knows why and what recommended him here).

We've won the league, but there was clear something looked off with us. And this summer, we were arrogant. We failed to understand what we did wrong last year and had the idea the ship will cruise again, but in fact we were taking water and now we look like the Titanic.

And I swear, I can't stop thinking is Pep. Because I really doubt it he went to Khaldoon and said he needs this and that and Khaldoon said no. Khaldoon looks like he would go to prison for a murder he didn't do just to keep Pep here.

So I think is his arrogance, his biggest flaw, why we are in this situation now.

Complete agree with you PP. Last season fooled alot into thinking we were OK 4 in a row was a great achievement in terms of a record but we failed in CL final, got knocked out of domestic cups by lesser teams and the signs were there in terms of our style of play getting found out. What helped us get 4 in a row then left the club. Haaland has been on a downward slide since he got his PL scoring record in terms of goals per minute, Foden has been completely ineffective this season and players we have bought in have been inconsistent.
If Pep doesn't can't see the problem he is the problem. It's like the old joke, If you don't know who the thickest cunt in the room is, it's you!!

When was our play found out last season.


If you look back here on the forum, everyone noticed we looked off, even if we won. Not our usual, sure, after a fantastic season. We left Madrid off the hook at home, but I count that as their luck.
Four in a row was historic, but 90% of people here noticed our tempo was different. That is the point of the whole thing.

More points and more goals than the treble season.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby PeterParker » Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:14 am

stupot wrote:
PeterParker wrote:
stupot wrote:
Indianablue wrote:
PeterParker wrote:Can I add something else:

There is this idea we were good last season, when the fact is I think we looked the worst winning a title. I think we were in cruise mode after the treble, a level behind 2022-2023. We've lost prime Gundog that summer and failed to replace him, tried with Kovacic, a decent squad player against Luton and Soton, but that was about it and did a panic buy with Nunes (fuck knows why and what recommended him here).

We've won the league, but there was clear something looked off with us. And this summer, we were arrogant. We failed to understand what we did wrong last year and had the idea the ship will cruise again, but in fact we were taking water and now we look like the Titanic.

And I swear, I can't stop thinking is Pep. Because I really doubt it he went to Khaldoon and said he needs this and that and Khaldoon said no. Khaldoon looks like he would go to prison for a murder he didn't do just to keep Pep here.

So I think is his arrogance, his biggest flaw, why we are in this situation now.

Complete agree with you PP. Last season fooled alot into thinking we were OK 4 in a row was a great achievement in terms of a record but we failed in CL final, got knocked out of domestic cups by lesser teams and the signs were there in terms of our style of play getting found out. What helped us get 4 in a row then left the club. Haaland has been on a downward slide since he got his PL scoring record in terms of goals per minute, Foden has been completely ineffective this season and players we have bought in have been inconsistent.
If Pep doesn't can't see the problem he is the problem. It's like the old joke, If you don't know who the thickest cunt in the room is, it's you!!

When was our play found out last season.


If you look back here on the forum, everyone noticed we looked off, even if we won. Not our usual, sure, after a fantastic season. We left Madrid off the hook at home, but I count that as their luck.
Four in a row was historic, but 90% of people here noticed our tempo was different. That is the point of the whole thing.

More points and more goals than the treble season.


Not everything is about the statistics, mate.
It felt off, it felt weird. Felt like inertia of the previous season. We've missed our problems.
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Re: Pep Out?

Postby stupot » Wed Dec 18, 2024 11:55 am

The statistics definitely tell a story. There's no way 90% thought it was different. Madrid away was probably the best we've played and but for 2 crazy deflections we'd have won the tie there and then. Our run from December up to the FA Cup Final was unbelievable.
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