Rodri’s injury

[stupot]

Man City captain , Bernardo Silva” we were shit last season and there cannot be a repeat this season “

He definitely was.

[Indianablue]

Groin strain due to inactivity. Didn't have to play at all until the season opening friendlies. Came back too soon. Takes time to get match fit , A fuck up from a panicking manager .

Not off to a good start are we?.

So he came back too soon- activity.
But groin strain due to inactivity.
Right

Listen cunt, you've obviously never played sport and got an injury coming back too soon after a long lay off. Your pithy little comment shows what an ignorant dickhead you are , and why Carl has issues with you. The subject matter is Rodri's injury. If it bores you, fuck off elsewhere. It was the wrong decision to bring him back.

We have touched a nerve haven't we. I take it your speed in replying is how quick your brain works. You're the one who said he came back too soon but got injured due to inactivity. Try and understand the contradiction. Now as I've told your hero Carl constantly I'll fuck off when i want to, not when dickheads like you tell me to.

Speed of replying could suggest i have a life outside this site. Inactive due to injury, body becomes unfit, comes back to play early, body aint ready, next injury happens. Not rocket science and not a contradiction just a description of injury recovery process. Might be difficult for you to understand if you aint played any sort of sport seriously. You can correct me if i'm wrong but i have you down as an inactive keyboard warrior

[carl_feedthegoat]

Man City captain , Bernardo Silva” we were shit last season and there cannot be a repeat this season “

He definitely was.

Bernardo’s fucking already owned it, yet you’re still floating in your own little Pep-utopia. Absolute fucking comedy gold. Can’t wait to see you break last season’s world record for delusion

[carl_feedthegoat]

Groin strain due to inactivity. Didn't have to play at all until the season opening friendlies. Came back too soon. Takes time to get match fit , A fuck up from a panicking manager .

Not off to a good start are we?.

So he came back too soon- activity.
But groin strain due to inactivity.
Right

Listen cunt, you've obviously never played sport and got an injury coming back too soon after a long lay off. Your pithy little comment shows what an ignorant dickhead you are , and why Carl has issues with you. The subject matter is Rodri's injury. If it bores you, fuck off elsewhere. It was the wrong decision to bring him back.

We have touched a nerve haven't we. I take it your speed in replying is how quick your brain works. You're the one who said he came back too soon but got injured due to inactivity. Try and understand the contradiction. Now as I've told your hero Carl constantly I'll fuck off when i want to, not when dickheads like you tell me to.

Speed of replying could suggest i have a life outside this site. Inactive due to injury, body becomes unfit, comes back to play early, body aint ready, next injury happens. Not rocket science and not a contradiction just a description of injury recovery process. Might be difficult for you to understand if you aint played any sort of sport seriously. You can correct me if i'm wrong but i have you down as an inactive keyboard warrior

I heard he’s excellent at tiddlywinks and a world beater at pocket billiards.

[stupot]

Groin strain due to inactivity. Didn't have to play at all until the season opening friendlies. Came back too soon. Takes time to get match fit , A fuck up from a panicking manager .

Not off to a good start are we?.

So he came back too soon- activity.
But groin strain due to inactivity.
Right

Listen cunt, you've obviously never played sport and got an injury coming back too soon after a long lay off. Your pithy little comment shows what an ignorant dickhead you are , and why Carl has issues with you. The subject matter is Rodri's injury. If it bores you, fuck off elsewhere. It was the wrong decision to bring him back.

We have touched a nerve haven't we. I take it your speed in replying is how quick your brain works. You're the one who said he came back too soon but got injured due to inactivity. Try and understand the contradiction. Now as I've told your hero Carl constantly I'll fuck off when i want to, not when dickheads like you tell me to.

Speed of replying could suggest i have a life outside this site. Inactive due to injury, body becomes unfit, comes back to play early, body aint ready, next injury happens. Not rocket science and not a contradiction just a description of injury recovery process. Might be difficult for you to understand if you aint played any sort of sport seriously. You can correct me if i'm wrong but i have you down as an inactive keyboard warrior

I'll correct you as you're wrong. I'm 64, played 6 a side twice a week until Covid so until I was 59, play tennis and paddel still but it's totally irrelevant to the fitness of a professional footballer with the best recovery programmes available.

[Indianablue]

So you just rock up to the court and start playing tennis or you warm up , stretch and hit a few balls first. ....and if you haven't played for a while the more chance you'll have of pulling a muscle or a strain. Same with Rodri but more so. He's had a career threatening injury, if he gets back, he will be a lesser player. The odds are against him. The hype surrounding his return was ridiculous. Pep didn't need to risk him when he did

[carl_feedthegoat]

So you just rock up to the court and start playing tennis or you warm up , stretch and hit a few balls first. ....and if you haven't played for a while the more chance you'll have of pulling a muscle or a strain. Same with Rodri but more so. He's had a career threatening injury, if he gets back, he will be a lesser player. The odds are against him. The hype surrounding his return was ridiculous. Pep didn't need to risk him when he did

After some digging - After ACL reconstruction, only ~55–65% of players get back to true pre-injury level and performance usually dips for 1–2 seasons before it stabilises—if it does. Returning before 9 months spikes re-injury risk (one study puts it at ~7x), and load spikes are exactly what lead to groin/hamstring strains.

The end.

[nottsblue]

So you just rock up to the court and start playing tennis or you warm up , stretch and hit a few balls first. ....and if you haven't played for a while the more chance you'll have of pulling a muscle or a strain. Same with Rodri but more so. He's had a career threatening injury, if he gets back, he will be a lesser player. The odds are against him. The hype surrounding his return was ridiculous. Pep didn't need to risk him when he did

After some digging - After ACL reconstruction, only ~55–65% of players get back to true pre-injury level and performance usually dips for 1–2 seasons before it stabilises—if it does. Returning before 9 months spikes re-injury risk (one study puts it at ~7x), and load spikes are exactly what lead to groin/hamstring strains.

The end.

This might be very controversial. But given these stats and information and Rodri's age (29), if a bid comes in from Madrid, as has been rumoured, should we consider it?

Speed isn't a major attribute of his game so that's not a big worry. But will these injuries have taken a mental toll or a subconscious one? Will he be as quick in the turn, the tackle, the interception knowing his body isn't potentially as reliable as it once was. And knowing that the PL is the toughest most rigorous football league out there, might he be tempted to return to a lesser paced league?

With hindsight KDB arguably should have been told 2 years ago as injuries blighted his last two years. Aguero's last season was injury hit.

I love him but have we seen his peak? If Reijnders comes in running from the start that will help make the call. Gonzalez for me isn't either ready or probably not good enough to replace Rodri. So we have to have either a replacement who can actually replace him properly or have a change in style where we don't require a DM. Whilst Pep is manager we can safely say we wont change our style. So it's option one. And replacing the world's best DM over the last 4-5 years is gonna be tough.

[zuricity]

So you just rock up to the court and start playing tennis or you warm up , stretch and hit a few balls first. ....and if you haven't played for a while the more chance you'll have of pulling a muscle or a strain. Same with Rodri but more so. He's had a career threatening injury, if he gets back, he will be a lesser player. The odds are against him. The hype surrounding his return was ridiculous. Pep didn't need to risk him when he did

After some digging - After ACL reconstruction, only ~55–65% of players get back to true pre-injury level and performance usually dips for 1–2 seasons before it stabilises—if it does. Returning before 9 months spikes re-injury risk (one study puts it at ~7x), and load spikes are exactly what lead to groin/hamstring strains.

The end.

This might be very controversial. But given these stats and information and Rodri's age (29), if a bid comes in from Madrid, as has been rumoured, should we consider it?

Speed isn't a major attribute of his game so that's not a big worry. But will these injuries have taken a mental toll or a subconscious one? Will he be as quick in the turn, the tackle, the interception knowing his body isn't potentially as reliable as it once was. And knowing that the PL is the toughest most rigorous football league out there, might he be tempted to return to a lesser paced league?

With hindsight KDB arguably should have been told 2 years ago as injuries blighted his last two years. Aguero's last season was injury hit.

I love him but have we seen his peak? If Reijnders comes in running from the start that will help make the call. Gonzalez for me isn't either ready or probably not good enough to replace Rodri. So we have to have either a replacement who can actually replace him properly or have a change in style where we don't require a DM. Whilst Pep is manager we can safely say we wont change our style. So it's option one. And replacing the world's best DM over the last 4-5 years is gonna be tough.

Well , my response to all this BS about Rodri is.... No player is irreplaceable.

Everytime key players get crocked, somebody else pops up and does the job. It simply is not the case that one player determines the team's success.

It is not Rodri's speed or fitness that is important, it is rodri's reading of the game and how he moves around , it many respects like Berni, to be in the right place ( most of the time ) to get success ( ie winning the game).

I hope gundo stays on the sidelines for most of this new season because he really is too old now. His return and Peps refusal to stop playing him lead to the run of poor form. Not Rodris injury alone.

[CTID Hants]

So you just rock up to the court and start playing tennis or you warm up , stretch and hit a few balls first. ....and if you haven't played for a while the more chance you'll have of pulling a muscle or a strain. Same with Rodri but more so. He's had a career threatening injury, if he gets back, he will be a lesser player. The odds are against him. The hype surrounding his return was ridiculous. Pep didn't need to risk him when he did

After some digging - After ACL reconstruction, only ~55–65% of players get back to true pre-injury level and performance usually dips for 1–2 seasons before it stabilises—if it does. Returning before 9 months spikes re-injury risk (one study puts it at ~7x), and load spikes are exactly what lead to groin/hamstring strains.

The end.

This might be very controversial. But given these stats and information and Rodri's age (29), if a bid comes in from Madrid, as has been rumoured, should we consider it?

Speed isn't a major attribute of his game so that's not a big worry. But will these injuries have taken a mental toll or a subconscious one? Will he be as quick in the turn, the tackle, the interception knowing his body isn't potentially as reliable as it once was. And knowing that the PL is the toughest most rigorous football league out there, might he be tempted to return to a lesser paced league?

With hindsight KDB arguably should have been told 2 years ago as injuries blighted his last two years. Aguero's last season was injury hit.

I love him but have we seen his peak? If Reijnders comes in running from the start that will help make the call. Gonzalez for me isn't either ready or probably not good enough to replace Rodri. So we have to have either a replacement who can actually replace him properly or have a change in style where we don't require a DM. Whilst Pep is manager we can safely say we wont change our style. So it's option one. And replacing the world's best DM over the last 4-5 years is gonna be tough.

Don't get the RM links, especially after theirs and victim juniors shithousery around Rodri ballon dior.

I also beleive that Rodri footballing brain will outweigh the physical side of his game. I honestly don't think he's done just yet, but as suggested let's see how Reijnders steps up and if he doesn't and Rodri isn't ready to return physically or mentally, then we could have a problem.

Gonzalez, I think isn't ready/settled yet, opposed to not good enough, so between the 3 of them I am hoping we will be good....

[Indianablue]

So you just rock up to the court and start playing tennis or you warm up , stretch and hit a few balls first. ....and if you haven't played for a while the more chance you'll have of pulling a muscle or a strain. Same with Rodri but more so. He's had a career threatening injury, if he gets back, he will be a lesser player. The odds are against him. The hype surrounding his return was ridiculous. Pep didn't need to risk him when he did

After some digging - After ACL reconstruction, only ~55–65% of players get back to true pre-injury level and performance usually dips for 1–2 seasons before it stabilises—if it does. Returning before 9 months spikes re-injury risk (one study puts it at ~7x), and load spikes are exactly what lead to groin/hamstring strains.

The end.

Certainly put a stop to me playing football and rugby. Gascoigne, Bell , never the same also.
Great bit of investigation Carl

[carl_feedthegoat]

So you just rock up to the court and start playing tennis or you warm up , stretch and hit a few balls first. ....and if you haven't played for a while the more chance you'll have of pulling a muscle or a strain. Same with Rodri but more so. He's had a career threatening injury, if he gets back, he will be a lesser player. The odds are against him. The hype surrounding his return was ridiculous. Pep didn't need to risk him when he did

After some digging - After ACL reconstruction, only ~55–65% of players get back to true pre-injury level and performance usually dips for 1–2 seasons before it stabilises—if it does. Returning before 9 months spikes re-injury risk (one study puts it at ~7x), and load spikes are exactly what lead to groin/hamstring strains.

The end.

Certainly put a stop to me playing football and rugby. Gascoigne, Bell , never the same also.
Great bit of investigation Carl

I fear he will be another KDB if we keep him - on the sick more often than not.

[sheblue]

It's laughable to suggest Pep rushed him back. So Pep ignored the all medical staff, leading experts in their field, their advice and the player himself when they were all saying no, apparently Pep put the gun to Rodris head and forced him to play.
I suppose if Bobb picks up a knock, it will be the managers fault as well that he was 'rushed back'.
Pathetic try harder.

[PeterParker]

He had no business being anywhere near the squad for the final three games of last season, that’s where, in my opinion, we made a mistake. I think we panicked because we were at risk of missing out on the Champions League.

I agree he needed minutes, and the Club World Cup was fine for that, but those should have been his first steps back into football and full training since the injury

[CTID Hants]

It's laughable to suggest Pep rushed him back. So Pep ignored the all medical staff, leading experts in their field, their advice and the player himself when they were all saying no, apparently Pep put the gun to Rodris head and forced him to play.
I suppose if Bobb picks up a knock, it will be the managers fault as well that he was 'rushed back'.
Pathetic try harder.

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[stupot]

It's laughable to suggest Pep rushed him back. So Pep ignored the all medical staff, leading experts in their field, their advice and the player himself when they were all saying no, apparently Pep put the gun to Rodris head and forced him to play.
I suppose if Bobb picks up a knock, it will be the managers fault as well that he was 'rushed back'.
Pathetic try harder.

Spot on. He got the injury in September, built fitness up in the closing stages of the season. Had a few minutes game time after which people on here were screaming for him to play in the Cup Final but he carried on building his fitness for another month to the CWC.
The percentage of players not getting back to their former level is taken from all divisions. The higher the level of footballer the better the chance of being as good as before as they have far better medical assistance and supervision. Shearer had 2 ACL injuries in his career, one at Blackburn, one at Newcastle, one in his left leg and one in his right and came back stronger than ever both times.

[carl_feedthegoat]

It's laughable to suggest Pep rushed him back. So Pep ignored the all medical staff, leading experts in their field, their advice and the player himself when they were all saying no, apparently Pep put the gun to Rodris head and forced him to play.
I suppose if Bobb picks up a knock, it will be the managers fault as well that he was 'rushed back'.
Pathetic try harder.

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Sometimes its best to scramble around to fact check before you knock one out.
After Agüero’s knee surgery→hamstring relapse cycle, Pep said: “We have to be careful. We cannot do what we did in the past, when he comes back too soon and then gets injured.”
Nathan Aké in a Dutch interview: “At City we had so many injuries that I always started too soon… it didn’t work.”
Pep tacitly acknowledging they’d hurried Stones before (2025)
On John Stones’ repeated muscle setbacks: “He says he feels better… in the past he felt better and could only play 40–45 minutes then he worsened his injury and was out for the season.
During last season’s injury crisis, Pep openly said he’d urged players to play through pain “like Rafael Nadal.”

"sheblue" It's laughable to suggest Pep rushed him back''.

[Indianablue]

Rodri came on at the back end of the season as a late sub against Bornemouth. Not used in the cup final and limped off after a spell as a sub in the Club WorldCup.
In terms of match fitness he had fuck all, was it worth it
Bobb came back after 5 months with a leg fracture not as serious as a ACL injury in terms of recovery , suffered a set back and is struggling as we speak to get up to speed
Ake suffered repeated injuries
Last season was very bad in terms of injuries. Our physios were inundated. Current form of our back room staff would suggest our players are weak, our fitness isn't the best or we are not managing recoveries well enough. We have a big squad, we have decent fit young players with good engines yet we tend to favour certain players?
ACLs were killer injuries years ago , they finished players. Granted, advances have been made but they are the one that no player wants
Shearer had 3 decent years at Blackburn but further injuries meant that he could repeat his performances over a season as he had done. His final injury finished his career. A great player but plagued by knee and ankle injuries, certainly a a tough bastard
I think its a fair shout to question the handling of Rodri's return to the pitch. Hoping he comes back as strong as ever in September/October? but i'm not putting serious money on it

[stupot]

Rodri came on at the back end of the season as a late sub against Bornemouth. Not used in the cup final and limped off after a spell as a sub in the Club WorldCup.
In terms of match fitness he had fuck all, was it worth it
Bobb came back after 5 months with a leg fracture not as serious as a ACL injury in terms of recovery , suffered a set back and is struggling as we speak to get up to speed
Ake suffered repeated injuries
Last season was very bad in terms of injuries. Our physios were inundated. Current form of our back room staff would suggest our players are weak, our fitness isn't the best or we are not managing recoveries well enough. We have a big squad, we have decent fit young players with good engines yet we tend to favour certain players?
ACLs were killer injuries years ago , they finished players. Granted, advances have been made but they are the one that no player wants
Shearer had 3 decent years at Blackburn but further injuries meant that he could repeat his performances over a season as he had done. His final injury finished his career. A great player but plagued by knee and ankle injuries, certainly a a tough bastard
I think its a fair shout to question the handling of Rodri's return to the pitch. Hoping he comes back as strong as ever in September/October? but i'm not putting serious money on it

I'd say Shearer did repeat his performances over a season after his 3 decent years at Blackburn seeing as how he's Newcastle's all time leading scorer.

[Indianablue]

Rodri came on at the back end of the season as a late sub against Bornemouth. Not used in the cup final and limped off after a spell as a sub in the Club WorldCup.
In terms of match fitness he had fuck all, was it worth it
Bobb came back after 5 months with a leg fracture not as serious as a ACL injury in terms of recovery , suffered a set back and is struggling as we speak to get up to speed
Ake suffered repeated injuries
Last season was very bad in terms of injuries. Our physios were inundated. Current form of our back room staff would suggest our players are weak, our fitness isn't the best or we are not managing recoveries well enough. We have a big squad, we have decent fit young players with good engines yet we tend to favour certain players?
ACLs were killer injuries years ago , they finished players. Granted, advances have been made but they are the one that no player wants
Shearer had 3 decent years at Blackburn but further injuries meant that he could repeat his performances over a season as he had done. His final injury finished his career. A great player but plagued by knee and ankle injuries, certainly a a tough bastard
I think its a fair shout to question the handling of Rodri's return to the pitch. Hoping he comes back as strong as ever in September/October? but i'm not putting serious money on it

I'd say Shearer did repeat his performances over a season after his 3 decent years at Blackburn seeing as how he's Newcastle's all time leading scorer.

You'd be wrong. Scored 34, 37 and 37 at Blackburn . His best season at Newcastle was 30 and a couple of 28s. Scored 0.76 GOALS PER GAME AT BLACKBURN, 0.5 GOALS PER GAME AT NEWCASTLE. His scoring rate dropped off by 30% His glory years were at Rovers . Missed too many games through injury at Newcastle