A lock picker.

[getdressedmctavish]

Ted spot on as per. It is absolutely galling watching the rags do the simple things so well, be it fouling, fullbacks overlapping, diagonal rather than square ball from the centre, patiently manouvring to get a wingers cross in etc.Then we watch micah and shaun fumbling about, the ball taking 20 passes to go ten yards, crossing last night that was aimed at a fecking electricity pylon I mean how hard is it?

[zuricity]

Stevie was doing this for us last season. I can't understand what has happened to him this season though.

Ireland has had 1 good season - we need to come to terms with the fact he isn't the messiah.

You'll be telling me next that he's a very naughty boy!

After Grannygate and the bizarre car conversions thats probably true as well!

Am I the only one who thinks Irelands body language on the field is absolutely effin awful at present? Both he and SWP, if they are sulking, need to either get over it or look elsewhere because City will keep moving onwards and upwards and they need to decide if they want to knuckle down, or give up. Sadly, at present, neither of them merit a starting place.

Think that one went way over heads .......

[Grob]

I think the answer is in the midfield we played against last night.

Arteta.

He's exactly the kind of player we are missing in midfield, plus I would love to fuck off Moyes again the fucking cunt that he is.

Ireland is too one dimensional. He needs to improve his alround game so he can adapt a little more to the players around him. The biggest problem he has is confidence. When he's got it he's mustard, when its not there he's hopeless.

[Lionheart]

Stevie was doing this for us last season. I can't understand what has happened to him this season though.

Robinho has done one.

Their partnership last season was amazing.

[DoomMerchant]

For me we need to find the next Xabi Alonso, or Essien and scoop them up. I dunno if that's what that Nigerian kid represented in Jan, but we need to go find one.

I'd be fine with Arteta as Grob mentioned as well while we're looking for the youngish version of the template Alonso or Essien type player. For me, Arteta probably plays less defensively than either one of those players now, but their close control, and ability to find a pass and unlock defenses is without question. Essien is in another world tho...shame he seems like he's made of glass, because he's one of the top players in the world even with his injury record. With a healthy Essien Chelsea walk the league easily.

Whomever mentioned the Scum comparison -- was it Ted? -- made a good call...watching their team in the final third, they have any one of half dozen players who can play that final ball in the right spot consistently -- whether it's open play or a dead ball, and we have literally maybe only Jinky from a dead ball perspective, and no one consistently from open play.

cheers

[Vhero]

Stevie was doing this for us last season. I can't understand what has happened to him this season though.

Ireland has had 1 good season - we need to come to terms with the fact he isn't the messiah.

You'll be telling me next that he's a very naughty boy!

After Grannygate and the bizarre car conversions thats probably true as well!

Am I the only one who thinks Irelands body language on the field is absolutely effin awful at present? Both he and SWP, if they are sulking, need to either get over it or look elsewhere because City will keep moving onwards and upwards and they need to decide if they want to knuckle down, or give up. Sadly, at present, neither of them merit a starting place.

Think that one went way over heads .......

0_o trust me it didn't one of the greatest films EVER!

[Swales4ever]

I think we all know that Stevie even now can pick a pass and he did get one right tonight for Carlos , over the top which he almost turned in. BUT ,and its a big but, he doesnt seem to be able to get on the ball with any time to play. Tonight he wasn't really in the play making role as he was further forward.That was a gamble Mancini took and it didn't pay off. Watching Stevie tonight I thought again he was mostly lost and confused about when to get forward and when to hold back.

Too often I thought he was was up top as if he was a striker when we all know he is at his best making late runs into spaces.When he did drop off he just didn't find space and I thought often was in other people's space and not in great positions to receive passes.

Are You sure about that, aren't You?
Fact is that Mancini's ideal system of play provided for a playmaker well before, You Douglas Higginbottom, even start knowing he existed.
Whether is arguable if should be considered a wise idea to build a team around a single player (even if the player was messi i.o. ireland), because such a great single person might always suddenly implode for whatsoever reason, there is certainly no one clue why a professional, professionally involved in football, should even only consider to apply such an idea to what Steven ireland has proven in professional football!
If criticism is to be directed to Mancini about this particular issue, there must only be because he did spend too many times and official games (with official points awarded) to acknoledge that Ireland is currently useless.
Nonetheless, I still bear the idea that, if the employer shall continue to act professionally toward the Club, he will be offered a full season to prove, on the pitch, he might step over according to his talent.
Of course whether F**k SAF, Arsene or the Russian won't invest all their pennies to stole him... :-)))))

Besides, it looks like another "Robinho's world class" syndrome is getting start.
Instead, we should all start to metabolize that MCFC has been set (by the Owner) to aim to the top.

This means that everybody involved, from the manager and downward must be up to fit the setting. At least if MCFC has to arrive up where is aimed to.
And this, out of any possible and/or polemic misunderstanding, has nothing to do with being as arrogant as U****d, before....

[DoomMerchant]

I think we all know that Stevie even now can pick a pass and he did get one right tonight for Carlos , over the top which he almost turned in. BUT ,and its a big but, he doesnt seem to be able to get on the ball with any time to play. Tonight he wasn't really in the play making role as he was further forward.That was a gamble Mancini took and it didn't pay off. Watching Stevie tonight I thought again he was mostly lost and confused about when to get forward and when to hold back.

Too often I thought he was was up top as if he was a striker when we all know he is at his best making late runs into spaces.When he did drop off he just didn't find space and I thought often was in other people's space and not in great positions to receive passes.

Are You sure about that, aren't You?
Fact is that Mancini's ideal system of play provided for a playmaker well before, You Douglas Higginbottom, even start knowing he existed.
Whether is arguable if should be considered a wise idea to build a team around a single player (even if the player was messi i.o. ireland), because such a great single person might always suddenly implode for whatsoever reason, there is certainly no one clue why a professional, professionally involved in football, should even only consider to apply such an idea to what Steven ireland has proven in professional football!
If criticism is to be directed to Mancini about this particular issue, there must only be because he did spend too many times and official games (with official points awarded) to acknoledge that Ireland is currently useless.
Nonetheless, I still bear the idea that, if the employer shall continue to act professionally toward the Club, he will be offered a full season to prove, on the pitch, he might step over according to his talent.
Of course whether F**k SAF, Arsene or the Russian won't invest all their pennies to stole him... :-)))))

Besides, it looks like another "Robinho's world class" syndrome is getting start.
Instead, we should all start to metabolize that MCFC has been set (by the Owner) to aim to the top.

This means that everybody involved, from the manager and downward must be up to fit the setting. At least if MCFC has to arrive up where is aimed to.
And this, out of any possible and/or polemic misunderstanding, has nothing to do with being as arrogant as U****d, before....

fuck me that has to be a pisstake. Patrick? wtf. amazing shit.

cheers

[Swales4ever]

.... ZIP ....

fuck me that has to be a pisstake. Patrick? wtf. amazing shit.

cheers

You Know Doom, I am ignorant and actually don't know what pisstake means, neither if when a shit becomes amazing it get a complimentary accent. My name is Roger (Ruggero) and not Patrick.

That said, I tried several times to play fair with Douggy Douggy.
Since You read his recent posts, You won't be arsed to assess where the will to wind someone up is....
Thus I did reply accordingly: a more diplomatic first attempt, a more clear as well as plainly aseptic second one.

[Mase]

.... ZIP ....

fuck me that has to be a pisstake. Patrick? wtf. amazing shit.

cheers

You Know Doom, I am ignorant and actually don't know what pisstake means, neither if when a shit becomes amazing it get a complimentary accent. My name is Roger (Ruggero) and not Patrick.

That said, I tried several times to play fair with Douggy Douggy. Since You read his recent posts, You won't be arsed to assess where the will to wind someone up is....
Thus I did reply accordingly: a more diplomatic first attempt, a more clear as well as plainly aseptic second one.

Snoop Douggy Dougg?

[brite blu sky]

Mate Mancio, always wickets will sticky be, if you insist to bounce the ball at Doougie ( sorry for use of sport metaphor not complementary to italian personages understandings ), Dooglie is not by a far distance of many kilometers one of the posters having respect of producing understandings and effects of great balance in his commentaries. So a full carness of treading about is what advocation i would help you to see if you are leaning in the position to use the ears that each side of your head holds.

thanks

[Swales4ever]

Mate Mancio, always wickets will sticky be, if you insist to bounce the ball at Doougie ( sorry for use of sport metaphor not complementary to italian personages understandings ), Dooglie is not by a far distance of many kilometers one of the posters having respect of producing understandings and effects of great balance in his commentaries. So a full carness of treading about is what advocation i would help you to see if you are leaning in the position to use the ears that each side of your head holds.

thanks

Sorry brite, It took me the whole weekend to catch both my ears...
Mmmhhh..... and Your point is..... when You're out of arguments, either drive others' to ridicule or use derogatory words to highlight yourself... Or did i miss something between the ears... :-)
Sorry Mate, can't buy snob.

[brite blu sky]

my point is your language skills in english are not good enough to take apart other posters arguments and be coherent to native english speakers. I can sympathise with you as it took me 2 years of mostly just listening to be able to speak and write Castellano.. so i was trying to find a slightly humourous or sarcastic way of offering some advice that if you choose to question the words used by english posters, particularly ones that are quite eloquent anyway.. you just make yourself look ignorant imo.

[Swales4ever]

my point is your language skills in english are not good enough to take apart other posters arguments and be coherent to native english speakers. I can sympathise with you as it took me 2 years of mostly just listening to be able to speak and write Castellano.. so i was trying to find a slightly humourous or sarcastic way of offering some advice that if you choose to question the words used by english posters, particularly ones that are quite eloquent anyway.. you just make yourself look ignorant imo.

Unless Einstein was wrong everything is relative and I wouldn't become myself as cheap as to claim for a comparison between our respective qualifications.
I thought the fact that I am a foreigner and not an language scholar was over and I had gained my right to express pointed arguments with polite means: to be late it's never been a distinguished sign of brilliancy.

At my home, what qualifies the concept of being eloquent is the abality to support ideas with pointed arguments and facts, rather than to hold a certain passport or spew unqualified personal feelings and then send out some derogative supporters in order to abuse other's qualities or opinion, pretending thereby to enforce what is not tenable.

For the record and because I am a stubborn bastard who refuse to be snubbed or abused, before replying You I submitted the text of my above post to a longlasting friend of mine. He is a Cambridge graduate, holds a Stanford PhD and belongs to a family which claims for British inheritance since the Tudor Age. After an extensive laugh on my desire for exchanging views among football fans, he replied me that while he won't ever spend a penny to hire me to teach english to anybody in the world, the content of my post is plainly understandable for any normal person who hold a basic knowledge of Your language. The fact we are doing business with mutual profit over the last 18 years is just a complementary evidence of the fact I am able to deal with English.

Living in Barcelona for long should had put Your goodself in advantage to understand that what basically makes a Team great is the capability, amongst others, to assess that a winning team is not composed by "local heroes who needs to be specially trained, played in the right place, made felt desired and use to perform a decent game out of ten", neither by lazy brazilians sidelined by several different but well qualified managers.

Now, I am older, presumably more qualified, more polite and more a gentleman than You are, thus I feel compelled to stop it here.
Hope You might manage to understand and show Your disgusting attitude anywhere but near to me. You really acheived to make me displease an hobby, mister!

[brite blu sky]

well obviously i stand corrected 4ever
amen

[Wooders]

we we're linked with hleb this morning - man for the job? I would like to bring hleb and flamini in myself to work with barry as our midfield unit - would be pretty class imo

[bluechester]

hleb,snieder, deigo, any of these would do for me

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

we we're linked with hleb this morning - man for the job? I would like to bring hleb and flamini in myself to work with barry as our midfield unit - would be pretty class imo

Hleb is a good player but similar way to lot of our players that small step behind really top quality.

[Rag_hater]

We seem to be winning enough games without one and I dont think Bobby sees it as what will make us stronger.
I think the way we are playing now with a defensive mindset is Roberto's preferred choice and this way of playing is something we should get used to watching.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

We seem to be winning enough games without one and I dont think Bobby sees it as what will make us stronger.
I think the way we are playing now with a defensive mindset is Roberto's preferred choice and this way of playing is something we should get used to watching.

Technically, we aren't winning enough games, are we?!?! In fact, considering the owners and manager, I'm sure, are aiming for the title in not so distant future, we most certainly are NOT winning enough games without a playmaker.