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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Kiss_The_Goat » Thu May 06, 2010 4:59 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Mancini failed,sorry to say it but it's true.

He Gauranteed we would finish fourth,FAIL AGAIN.
Said we give our all against the Rags,FAIL AGAIN.
Lose our proud unbeaten record,FAIL AGAIN.
Said we would fight till the end,FAIL AGAIN.

Sorry guys but the facts are there,Hughes was sacked for nearly failing Mancini HAS failed.


why do you and Grob need to bring Hughes into argument? He was sorry failure who took us 10th and he is gone now. But he is gone. He has nothing to do with our future. Get it?

I hope you don't go down the same path as Grob. Easily the biggest disappointment on this site in my time.


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I am like sooooooooooo like passed talking about like Hughes and like its like Hughes is sooooooooooo 2008!
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Redna » Thu May 06, 2010 6:30 am

Mancini should be given next season at least. A manager must have a chance to recruite his kind of players.
Mind that Arry got both Crouch and Defoe from Pompey and they sealed it yesterday.
I know Mancini bought Vieira which has shown to be a deadwood bar the Villa game were I thougt he was good.
Jonson can't have been Mancinis choice but Kiddo's.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby s1ty m » Thu May 06, 2010 7:25 am

svengali wrote:Played like shit against Everton home and away, Hull away, and played mind numbingly negative football against the rags and Arsenal. Not good enough in my eyes.

Tonight we did not play badly, but for Bobby to have convinced he was right to play the way he does, it needed to work, it hasn't, he has failed, he will go.


Totally agree. He does not understand English football and his defensive mentality has cost us 4th. the Rags and Arse were there for the taking. The option to flood the Spurs box with 2 players was very brave. Spineless. No idea where we go from here.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 06, 2010 7:35 am

Svensational wrote:Fuck Hughes thats in the past. Lets talk about Sven or even Keegan infact might as well talk about Pearce as well. Fuck all of them thats the past they are over with. Its Mancini we are talking about here and we all know hes failed in his "promises"

If hes with us next season then so be it, at least he will have the chance to build his own squad from day 1, then we can comment on how shit he is or how you dont like his tactics. AS much as I dont have faith in Mancini, Im a firm believer of giving a manager a chance. Especially if hes only had 5-6months to prove himself.



Again, I fully agree with apart from obviously believing Mancini is the man for us in long term. If he is shit next season, can't get results and tactics are wrong then if he goes you will not hear arguments from me.

Hughes, Sven, Keegan, Pearce, Royle, Horton or Mel fucking Machin has got nothing to do with that.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby btajim » Thu May 06, 2010 7:58 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Mancini failed,sorry to say it but it's true.

He Gauranteed we would finish fourth,FAIL AGAIN.
Said we give our all against the Rags,FAIL AGAIN.
Lose our proud unbeaten record,FAIL AGAIN.
Said we would fight till the end,FAIL AGAIN.

Sorry guys but the facts are there,Hughes was sacked for nearly failing Mancini HAS failed.


why do you and Grob need to bring Hughes into argument? He was sorry failure who took us 10th and he is gone now. But he is gone. He has nothing to do with our future. Get it?

I hope you don't go down the same path as Grob. Easily the biggest disappointment on this site in my time.


Biggest disappointment was you completely losing your sense of humour and behaving like a spoilt child under Hughes.

Mancini has failed and we want a reassurance that he can succeed.

We were completely outplayed by Tottenham.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 06, 2010 8:10 am

btajim wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
lets all have a disco wrote:Mancini failed,sorry to say it but it's true.

He Gauranteed we would finish fourth,FAIL AGAIN.
Said we give our all against the Rags,FAIL AGAIN.
Lose our proud unbeaten record,FAIL AGAIN.
Said we would fight till the end,FAIL AGAIN.

Sorry guys but the facts are there,Hughes was sacked for nearly failing Mancini HAS failed.


why do you and Grob need to bring Hughes into argument? He was sorry failure who took us 10th and he is gone now. But he is gone. He has nothing to do with our future. Get it?

I hope you don't go down the same path as Grob. Easily the biggest disappointment on this site in my time.


Biggest disappointment was you completely losing your sense of humour and behaving like a spoilt child under Hughes.

Mancini has failed and we want a reassurance that he can succeed.

We were completely outplayed by Tottenham.


What does my behaviour have to do with future of Manchester City? Surely anyone would put what they see as the best way forward for the Club as the most important thing regardless of what some dick says on Internet? And talking about Hughes when we are talking about FUTURE of this club is senseless.

What sort of reassurances can he give you that we will be succesfull? We have improved during the season and are getting more points per game now but other than that? Had we won last night, it would've been no reassurance either. Only winning things, and that only, will prove that someone is a winner for us.

And for the first 70 mins we were better side (although they created some deadly chances themselves) but lost the game after that. We were tactically naive going on full steam from the and running out of it after 70 mins. Giant tactical mistake, that I agree with.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby david yearsley » Thu May 06, 2010 8:18 am

After yet another "choke" and "bottle" job am I asking too much with all the resources at our disposal (300m spent since Thaksin) for us to hire someone who will simply not accept defeat and has a "win at all cost" mentality - we´re almost back to being the nice guys again now we´ve failed once more - I just want us to be complete arseholes and piss on every fuclers chips and if that is the price for success then so be it. In this regard Mancini doesn´t appear to fit the bill at this moment but I suppose it´s only right and proper we give him as much time as the previous incumbent. I really am fearing for next season and the prospect of Europa league to me is nothing more than a total distraction. There will be 8 teams vying for 4 spots next season and don´t discount the likes of Fulham and Sunderland making inroads either. We simply HAVE to get it right next season or it´s quite possibly curtains for the "project"
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu May 06, 2010 8:33 am

I think the Hughes 'target' was the board lying in order to get rid of him early in case he SUCCEEDED in getting to the chumps lg. I think they wanted him out, perhaps because they don't get on but imo because they want (or wanted) Mourinho. If we'd got 4th & sacked him that would have caused a shitstorm so they got him out early when they saw an opportunity.

I recon Mancini was brought in as a safeguard against not getting Mourinho. It's looking like Mourinho will choose Madrid so now they have to decide if Mancini has shown he has what it takes. Imo he hasn't improved anything by even 5% but I still think he could put a side together, like Hughes was doing, that could be taken on to the top by someone else if he's found wanting in the future.

Neither Hughes nor Mancini are special but either could do a perfectly good job for where we are now, like Ranieri did at Chelsea. Unfortunately a lot of City fans want to run before they can walk so that makes the job harder.

According to the BBC, 'City' have told them he's staying anyhow. If that's true, why the fuck don't they just announce it properly?
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 06, 2010 8:35 am

Ted Hughes wrote:I think the Hughes 'target' was the board lying in order to get rid of him early in case he SUCCEEDED in getting to the chumps lg. I think they wanted him out, perhaps because they don't get on but imo because they want (or wanted) Mourinho. If we'd got 4th & sacked him that would have caused a shitstorm so they got him out early when they saw an opportunity.

I recon Mancini was brought in as a safeguard against not getting Mourinho. It's looking like Mourinho will choose Madrid so now they have to decide if Mancini has shown he has what it takes. Imo he hasn't improved anything by even 5% but I still think he could put a side together, like Hughes was doing, that could be taken on to the top by someone else if he's found wanting in the future.

Neither Hughes nor Mancini are special but either could do a perfectly good job for where we are now, like Ranieri did at Chelsea. Unfortunately a lot of City fans want to run before they can walk so that makes the job harder.

According to the BBC, 'City' have told them he's staying anyhow. If that's true, why the fuck don't they just announce it properly?


Except our points per game tally but what does that mean in football?
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Crossie » Thu May 06, 2010 8:41 am

This morning I have a really feeling of not caring what happens.

I've completely run out of energy for football.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby mcfc61 » Thu May 06, 2010 8:44 am

Crossie wrote:This morning I have a really feeling of not caring what happens.

I've completely run out of energy for football.


That's how I feel, Crossie. Had my fill!
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby The Man In Blue » Thu May 06, 2010 8:47 am

i couldn't give a flying fuck right now, but the memory of certain posters declaring how they were "right" about Mancini after wolves away has cheered me up a bit.

just proves no-one knows fuck all really.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu May 06, 2010 8:57 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I think the Hughes 'target' was the board lying in order to get rid of him early in case he SUCCEEDED in getting to the chumps lg. I think they wanted him out, perhaps because they don't get on but imo because they want (or wanted) Mourinho. If we'd got 4th & sacked him that would have caused a shitstorm so they got him out early when they saw an opportunity.

I recon Mancini was brought in as a safeguard against not getting Mourinho. It's looking like Mourinho will choose Madrid so now they have to decide if Mancini has shown he has what it takes. Imo he hasn't improved anything by even 5% but I still think he could put a side together, like Hughes was doing, that could be taken on to the top by someone else if he's found wanting in the future.

Neither Hughes nor Mancini are special but either could do a perfectly good job for where we are now, like Ranieri did at Chelsea. Unfortunately a lot of City fans want to run before they can walk so that makes the job harder.

According to the BBC, 'City' have told them he's staying anyhow. If that's true, why the fuck don't they just announce it properly?


Except our points per game tally but what does that mean in football?



It means we got some more points, some other team's point totals probably improved too & some may have got worse. Perhaps Hughes would have got them or perhaps Mancini being more cautious helped get them. I don't actually care but i think we'd've got top 6 anyway. This season wasn't supposed to be just about points, it was supposed to be about building a team. That 'project' was shelved when Hughes was sacked & will only be re-started when Mancini is allowed to sign players.

The team that we have now is not a better one than the team that played Blackburn or Arsenal early season, in fact imo it's not as good but that could be due to tiredness in the forwards. I thought perhaps we'd moved up a gear with the 2nd half performance v Chelsea but I'm afraid we haven't, we raised our game that day. We're still well placed to do what we want to do but as far as team building goes, we've wasted half a season.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby gilford » Thu May 06, 2010 9:00 am

Here's my view on the situation..........

I hated Hughes, I thought some of the players he bought were not only mediocre, they were so overpriced it was shocking yet our backers still paid the price as they believed in the Manager. When he was sacked I was over the moon, and Mancini IMHO has done well with an inherited team from Hughes.

I do think that given time and money, Mancini COULD take us on to win things, be it one, two or three seasons I do think he can do it. The problem is, with no CL football we are stuck paying silly money for players yet again, with some not even willing to come.

Again, IMHO, if we were to get the special one now, I do think he will attract the players we need to press on with our campaign NOW. Getting him here I feel will be like having finished 4th, I think he has that much presence.

All of this is running round in my head because I really do think that the owners THINK they went for second best in Mancini, so why waste another year and probably another £150m?

Dont get me wrong, I like Bobby Manc, but from the owners view why wait for what they can have now?

My biggest worry? Stick with Mancini for another season and not achieve anything, Bacon face retiring and Jose going to them, leaving us pretty much fucked.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby bernabias_right_boot » Thu May 06, 2010 9:00 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Svensational wrote:Fuck Hughes thats in the past. Lets talk about Sven or even Keegan infact might as well talk about Pearce as well. Fuck all of them thats the past they are over with. Its Mancini we are talking about here and we all know hes failed in his "promises"

If hes with us next season then so be it, at least he will have the chance to build his own squad from day 1, then we can comment on how shit he is or how you dont like his tactics. AS much as I dont have faith in Mancini, Im a firm believer of giving a manager a chance. Especially if hes only had 5-6months to prove himself.



Again, I fully agree with apart from obviously believing Mancini is the man for us in long term. If he is shit next season, can't get results and tactics are wrong then if he goes you will not hear arguments from me.

Hughes, Sven, Keegan, Pearce, Royle, Horton or Mel fucking Machin has got nothing to do with that.



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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Mike J » Thu May 06, 2010 9:02 am

i wish people would give up on this mourinho idea. we will not get him.

isnt it pretty much a sure thing he is going to madrid anyway.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 06, 2010 9:05 am

bernabias_right_boot wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Svensational wrote:Fuck Hughes thats in the past. Lets talk about Sven or even Keegan infact might as well talk about Pearce as well. Fuck all of them thats the past they are over with. Its Mancini we are talking about here and we all know hes failed in his "promises"

If hes with us next season then so be it, at least he will have the chance to build his own squad from day 1, then we can comment on how shit he is or how you dont like his tactics. AS much as I dont have faith in Mancini, Im a firm believer of giving a manager a chance. Especially if hes only had 5-6months to prove himself.



Again, I fully agree with apart from obviously believing Mancini is the man for us in long term. If he is shit next season, can't get results and tactics are wrong then if he goes you will not hear arguments from me.

Hughes, Sven, Keegan, Pearce, Royle, Horton or Mel fucking Machin has got nothing to do with that.



I rather liked Brian Horton!


I like Horton as well. And Royle. And adored Keegan. Liked Sven. But none of that has got anything to do with our future.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Niall Quinns Discopants » Thu May 06, 2010 9:07 am

Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I think the Hughes 'target' was the board lying in order to get rid of him early in case he SUCCEEDED in getting to the chumps lg. I think they wanted him out, perhaps because they don't get on but imo because they want (or wanted) Mourinho. If we'd got 4th & sacked him that would have caused a shitstorm so they got him out early when they saw an opportunity.

I recon Mancini was brought in as a safeguard against not getting Mourinho. It's looking like Mourinho will choose Madrid so now they have to decide if Mancini has shown he has what it takes. Imo he hasn't improved anything by even 5% but I still think he could put a side together, like Hughes was doing, that could be taken on to the top by someone else if he's found wanting in the future.

Neither Hughes nor Mancini are special but either could do a perfectly good job for where we are now, like Ranieri did at Chelsea. Unfortunately a lot of City fans want to run before they can walk so that makes the job harder.

According to the BBC, 'City' have told them he's staying anyhow. If that's true, why the fuck don't they just announce it properly?


Except our points per game tally but what does that mean in football?


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It means we got some more points, some other team's point totals probably improved too & some may have got worse. Perhaps Hughes would have got them or perhaps Mancini being more cautious helped get them. I don't actually care but i think we'd've got top 6 anyway. This season wasn't supposed to be just about points, it was supposed to be about building a team. That 'project' was shelved when Hughes was sacked & will only be re-started when Mancini is allowed to sign players.

The team that we have now is not a better one than the team that played Blackburn or Arsenal early season, in fact imo it's not as good but that could be due to tiredness in the forwards. I thought perhaps we'd moved up a gear with the 2nd half performance v Chelsea but I'm afraid we haven't, we raised our game that day. We're still well placed to do what we want to do but as far as team building goes, we've wasted half a season.


Whether we would've improved later in the season is just guesswork. We KNOW we improved in real life. That's a fact. Not guessing.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Ted Hughes » Thu May 06, 2010 9:19 am

Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:
Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:
Ted Hughes wrote:I think the Hughes 'target' was the board lying in order to get rid of him early in case he SUCCEEDED in getting to the chumps lg. I think they wanted him out, perhaps because they don't get on but imo because they want (or wanted) Mourinho. If we'd got 4th & sacked him that would have caused a shitstorm so they got him out early when they saw an opportunity.

I recon Mancini was brought in as a safeguard against not getting Mourinho. It's looking like Mourinho will choose Madrid so now they have to decide if Mancini has shown he has what it takes. Imo he hasn't improved anything by even 5% but I still think he could put a side together, like Hughes was doing, that could be taken on to the top by someone else if he's found wanting in the future.

Neither Hughes nor Mancini are special but either could do a perfectly good job for where we are now, like Ranieri did at Chelsea. Unfortunately a lot of City fans want to run before they can walk so that makes the job harder.

According to the BBC, 'City' have told them he's staying anyhow. If that's true, why the fuck don't they just announce it properly?


Except our points per game tally but what does that mean in football?


.


It means we got some more points, some other team's point totals probably improved too & some may have got worse. Perhaps Hughes would have got them or perhaps Mancini being more cautious helped get them. I don't actually care but i think we'd've got top 6 anyway. This season wasn't supposed to be just about points, it was supposed to be about building a team. That 'project' was shelved when Hughes was sacked & will only be re-started when Mancini is allowed to sign players.

The team that we have now is not a better one than the team that played Blackburn or Arsenal early season, in fact imo it's not as good but that could be due to tiredness in the forwards. I thought perhaps we'd moved up a gear with the 2nd half performance v Chelsea but I'm afraid we haven't, we raised our game that day. We're still well placed to do what we want to do but as far as team building goes, we've wasted half a season.


Whether we would've improved later in the season is just guesswork. We KNOW we improved in real life. That's a fact. Not guessing.


As i said, I don't care. I expected 5th or 6th, we were more or less on target for it all season & we got it. I was never really preoccupied with short term results or points totals, i was more interested in development. That stopped at Christmas & any deals we had lined up, which we most certainly would have, were abandoned & the manager sacked. Whether we would have got players who took us to the chump's league is also guesswork but seeing the team play every week isn't & this team is not better than it was.

We need to get on with the job of team building.
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Re: Roberto Mancini

Postby Socrates » Thu May 06, 2010 9:32 am

Ted Hughes - has it never occurred to you that our poor run of autumn results, increasingly leaky defence and the underperformance of several key signings might have shattered the confidence of the owner, and the board, in a manager they hadn't chosen and who had no proven track record of managerial success, in terms of actually winning silverware? You cannot blame Sheikh Mansour, Khaldoon, Cook and Marwood if they watched the very expensive Santa Cruz hobbling around and thought to themselves, "what on earth was the manager thinking of?"
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