Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:Original Dub wrote:Niall Quinns Discopants wrote:dazby wrote:Santa Cruz is a good player that thrives on service from the wings. We have gone through this ad nauseum. If he cost 5 mill we would not be having this discussion. However, NQDP has an agenda to work with his argumentations and is venting his frustrations about our losing on him. Can't be Mancini, so he picks a fringe player. He has wriggled out of every question put to him in this thread- as per usual.
It's like he's been taking lessons from Socrates.
What the FUCK are you on about? Agenda? What fucking agenda? Yeah, I have agenda...... I hate seeing SHIT players for City. There, that's my hand played there. You got me.
You never seem to signal out Vieira too much though. Obviously he was free, but what a silly signing when the team was crying out for an attacking midfielder, not an old, old man.
One signing may have cost 17m (we're loaded though, right?!).... the other signing (or lack of) cost us champions league IMO.
Vieira is on loan and I felt he was brought as much for his off field leadership and experience of winning things as his actual football ability. And in couple of games he DID take the command and lead us. Unfortunately for us and Mancini not often enough.
I don't think he'll be back in july. In fact, I think he might hang up his boots after the World Cup.
Santa Cruz on the other hand we are stuck with. But it's just not that, every time I heard from him he has been making excuses for himself which for me indicates that he thinks he is doing alright. Which couldn't be further from the truth. Also, strikers with first touch of Pub League left back are my pet hate. Also, I don't like one dimensional targetmen in modern game. Look at someone like Crouch. Sure he is great in the air but he can also trap the ball, spread it around him, dribble, shoot and finish goals with his feet. Proper targetman.
And why Patrick Vieira cost us Champion's League compared to Santa Cruz??? I don't know. NEITHER of them cost us Champion's League imo. But Vieira did very little and apart from Sunderland Santa Cruz did NOTHING to get us there. And that's what I'm looking for in player, especially anyone who cost over 5m, is to improve.
The only fair critism directed on this topic, which no one seem to have mentioned, would be that it's not his fault we spent that sort of money on him. That's right. Neither was it Benjani's fault we spent that money on him. But I'm still pissed off about them.
He's not cut the mustard since his arrival and yes, if Hughes had listened to you we wouldn't have had to endure this repetitive drivel from you every other month. However, RSC now plays for Mancini and he clearly feels he can offer something to the team or he wouldn't select him. If you wish to twist any othe above then I give you Robinho who Mancini was very happy to bomb out of the club as he felt he offered City sweet fa