Who can improve?

[brite blu sky]

Which players of our current crop ( not including academy graduates ) can yet improve ? and by how much ?

Bearing in mind that players need good players around them a good team and big challenges in order to learn beyond their natural capability.

Hart
Nedum
Micah
Kompany
Lescott
DeJong
M. Johnno
AJ
Ade
Tevez
Ireland

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Teves, Michael and Adam johnson. Ned, Micah, Vincent, Lescott, Weiss, Hart,

[dazby]

[quote="brite blu sky"]Which players of our current crop ( not including academy graduates ) can yet improve ? and by how much ?

Bearing in mind that players need good players around them a good team and big challenges in order to learn beyond their natural capability.

Hart- more experience with fewer errors
Nedum- as above
Micah- same again and should also learn to not blatantly push players who get the better of him
Kompany- learn to harass defenders without giving away a foul
Lescott- dunno
DeJong- learn to score
M. Johnno- learn to stay fit
AJ- learn to cross
Ade- learn to do exactly as he does but make the fickle ones in the crowd think that he is working as hard as he already is, maybe he should pull some unhappy faces, that would help
Tevez- 1 % better
Ireland- mystery man, no idea what he can do. Get back to old form with an injury free run perhaps

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Which players of our current crop ( not including academy graduates ) can yet improve ? and by how much ?

Bearing in mind that players need good players around them a good team and big challenges in order to learn beyond their natural capability.

Hart
Nedum
Micah
Kompany
Lescott
DeJong
M. Johnno
AJ
Ade
Tevez
Ireland

There's always room for improvement no matter what age you are but out of your list I feel following players are quite close to their peak and cont' expect masive improvement in their careers: Kompany, Lescott, Tevez, Adebayor, De Jong.

Hart, Nedum and AJ are players who have kept improving throughout their careers steadily and will continue to do so.

Micah and Ireland are in same bracket. Ireland, at his best, is realy good and Micah quite good. However on both cases I'm little bit worried that their progress has somewhat stopped despite at least three established managers with different approach have worked with them. Ireland is so good that just getting his best form back will be at least close to good enough but Micah's best isn't good enough for top 4 side (yet). There are glaring weaknesses in Micah's game like his headless running with ball, poor (non-existent) crossing and positioning. All things that can be, at least for a full back, fixed with good coaching which I feel has been available. I fear that he might not be listening to coaches and/or train hard enough.

You can't say anything about Micahel Johnson at this stage. So far from match fit and so many years now down the toilet regarding his development that it remains to be seen whether he will be able to bounce back.

Added to those are the obvious young players like Weiss (seems to improve by every minute he is on the pitch.... has been really good for Bolton recently when he has got the chance), Boyata (boy did he grow on those games he played) etc.

[brite blu sky]

Which players of our current crop ( not including academy graduates ) can yet improve ? and by how much ?

Bearing in mind that players need good players around them a good team and big challenges in order to learn beyond their natural capability.

Hart
Nedum
Micah
Kompany
Lescott
DeJong
M. Johnno
AJ
Ade
Tevez
Ireland

There's always room for improvement no matter what age you are but out of your list I feel following players are quite close to their peak and cont' expect masive improvement in their careers: Kompany, Lescott, Tevez, Adebayor, De Jong.

Hart, Nedum and AJ are players who have kept improving throughout their careers steadily and will continue to do so.

Micah and Ireland are in same bracket. Ireland, at his best, is realy good and Micah quite good. However on both cases I'm little bit worried that their progress has somewhat stopped despite at least three established managers with different approach have worked with them. Ireland is so good that just getting his best form back will be at least close to good enough but Micah's best isn't good enough for top 4 side (yet). There are glaring weaknesses in Micah's game like his headless running with ball, poor (non-existent) crossing and positioning. All things that can be, at least for a full back, fixed with good coaching which I feel has been available. I fear that he might not be listening to coaches and/or train hard enough.

You can't say anything about Micahel Johnson at this stage. So far from match fit and so many years now down the toilet regarding his development that it remains to be seen whether he will be able to bounce back.

Added to those are the obvious young players like Weiss (seems to improve by every minute he is on the pitch.... has been really good for Bolton recently when he has got the chance), Boyata (boy did he grow on those games he played) etc.

im also thinking that part of learning to be better is learning to be consistent, when and if players get to the top of their game.
I also think Tevez can learn a lot yet.. City have given him an open script ( as opp to the rags ) and we have all seen what that has done. However i can see him being asked to build on that in future and if you like 'mature' his game.

[brite blu sky]

Which players of our current crop ( not including academy graduates ) can yet improve ? and by how much ?

Bearing in mind that players need good players around them a good team and big challenges in order to learn beyond their natural capability.

Hart- more experience with fewer errors
Nedum- as above
Micah- same again and should also learn to not blatantly push players who get the better of him
Kompany- learn to harass defenders without giving away a foul
Lescott- dunno
DeJong- learn to score
M. Johnno- learn to stay fit
AJ- learn to cross
Ade- learn to do exactly as he does but make the fickle ones in the crowd think that he is working as hard as he already is, maybe he should pull some unhappy faces, that would help
Tevez- 1 % better
Ireland- mystery man, no idea what he can do. Get back to old form with an injury free run perhaps

well put dazby

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Which players of our current crop ( not including academy graduates ) can yet improve ? and by how much ?

Bearing in mind that players need good players around them a good team and big challenges in order to learn beyond their natural capability.

Hart- more experience with fewer errors
Nedum- as above
Micah- same again and should also learn to not blatantly push players who get the better of him
Kompany- learn to harass defenders without giving away a foul
Lescott- dunno
DeJong- learn to score
M. Johnno- learn to stay fit
AJ- learn to cross
Ade- learn to do exactly as he does but make the fickle ones in the crowd think that he is working as hard as he already is, maybe he should pull some unhappy faces, that would help
Tevez- 1 % better
Ireland- mystery man, no idea what he can do. Get back to old form with an injury free run perhaps

well put dazby

Then again, when we had Anelka half of the people here were screaming that he is a cunt because he never smiles. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.