Nedum on soccer AM

[carl_feedthegoat]

something must have irked him to come out with that...its just not like him.

[M147WN]

I think he's gone Carl!
But Soccer AM wasn't the place to air his problems.
It's a shame because he came across so well recently when Patrick Vieria and he visited our supporters club.
In truth, his abilities are limited given where we're aiming and he would always have been a fringe player with the players we expect to bring in!
A sad demise really for a lad who should have known better and bowed out with little dignity.
I still wish him well though wherever he ends up.

[Dameerto]

If he wasnt on his way out before that interview there's no way he will remain at the club after it. I could be kind and call his comments naive but they go beyond naivity to borderline stupidity

[ant london]

I can understand people's reactions in terms of it being wrong for Nedum to comment publicly about Mancini and his handling of certain things (and also the MH situation). I probably agree that it was not good conduct and I would agree with him being fined/warned by the club as to his behaviour.

That said, the overwhelming impression I got from that whole interview was that Ned is gutted. He didn't get a decent crack of the whip under Hughes in the first half of the season due to the manager wanting to play his new signings and then, as things started to come good for him personally, in comes Roberto who doesn't like/rate him for whatever reason.

As a City fan he looked devastated that he's going to be off and leaving the "project" that he has stuck with through shitty times just as it looks to be about to come good.

Also, as a City fan he probably (like many of us) recognises that Stephen Ireland is the one player who deserves to be treated with kid gloves and given patience and understanding to get him back to his best. Nedum Onuoha - Manchester City Fan...doesn't want Ireland turning it on for Arsenal, United or Liverpool just like I don't want that.

I like Nedum a lot as a lad and I would be upset and a little bitter in his place but...in a cold, calm retrospective analysis he will (in future) be likely to understand why the club brought (and continues to bring) in defenders in his position. Hugely talented he is but MASSIVELY injury-prone. We cannot gamble on his fitness so we have to have reinforcements and, the simple fact is, with the resources we have, any reinforcement is likely to be a step up in talent/quality and is likely to limit/kill his chances.

It's shit for Nedum Onuoha but the club has to act in the interests of Manchester City and not its individual players.

[Dubaimancityfan]

Its a shame, best right back at the club imo

Zabaleta has to start in my City XI.

One suspects Ned is on his way if he's coming out with stuff like this. Time for a "Ned or Roberto" poll akin to the Elano or Hughes ones?

[/wind up]

While I like Zabba, I think Ned is a better RB. He is more intelligent going forward and his passes/crosses are better than Zabba. Plus he knows how to score as he has demonstrated in his few appearances this season. Plus he is more level headed and will not give stupid fouls around the pen area (we all know Zabba's record in that area).
I think what really pissed him off, is that after a great performance against Birmingham and scoring 2 goals (even though he gave the first to Tevez), he was benched the next match at Arsenal when Zabba was eligible to play and when a substitution was needed
after Bridge left, Mancini brought on Micah who was coming back from an injury and totally ignored Ned.
I'll be sorry to see him go but I think he'll do well wherever he goes.

[brite blu sky]

have you seen this article from the MEN ?

http://menmedia.co.uk/sport/football/manchester_city/s/1240146_onuoha_slams_mancini

Ned apparently letting rip on soccer am. Has anyone seen the interview ?

Basically, the only thing i can read into this is that Ned somehow feels hard done by.. and that can only realistically be assigned to the idea he has been at the club for a long time and therefore gets privelidges of some kind.
If correct it is very sad to read of him talking about Ireland also.. very bad.

Im thinking that as the academy lads are good mates then there is the classic sense of being overlooked as the club attempts to rise up and better itself. Is there a clique of ex-academy stars who feel they are owed something?

if that is so, then they need a kick up the arse or worse, and Manicini would be well within his remit to get rid of the lot of them if they start moaning. This is sad news if true, but bottom line is that all players need to buckle down and learn and play their part when called upon, nothing more and nothing less. If true the attitude that Ned is showing is something that will hold us back and not one to help us progress.

Lets hope it is all bullsh*t, but i fear not.

[Beeks]

This is old news mate...there's another topic on it somewhere but like you I can't be arsed looking ;-)

[avoidconfusion]

He really said those things on Soccer AM (I think?).

Definitely gone in the summer, unacceptable the way he had a go at the manager about himself, Ireland and to kind of blame Mancini for Lescott missing out on the World Cup...

[brite blu sky]

woops sorry about that lads.. will read all your comments now.. after watching the video on socceram..

the vid on the website must be cut down, as the only thing he says on there is that he suspected Mancini perhaps didn't like him.. all the other negative attributed comments dont feature.

[Goaters 103]

I wish Nedum well but to get to the places we want to go to we need better players than him, thats the nub of it.

Would Onouha get into the team at Chelsea, Man U, Arsenal or Spurs? I think we know the answer.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Very very sad.
I'm a big fan of Nedum but let's be honest here, you just don't deal with these things like that. I can understand him being upset for not playing but he should go and speak with Roberto rather than going to fucking Soccer AM and making us look really bad.

Personally I'm particularily disappointed it was Nedum who I thought was sensible lad. But if we look at the facts here, Nedum is chronically injured. People have different levels of how well they take pain. When I was playing there were always few lads who played with anything but perhaps something broken. I myself belonged to that group. Then there were fellers who were always having a good moan about smallest of sprains. It seems to me that Nedum belongs to latter group. And fact is that professional footballer is NEVER fully fit. So therefore I don't think he will ever play more than three games in a row. It could well have been that medical staff has informed Mancini about this and he never saw him as part of the future because of that.

Also, questioning Mancini's transfers is bit ridiculous as he has only brought two players and one of them was giant success. But it seems to me that Nedum thinks we are some sort of social club and is angered that he and some of his bezzie mates (SWP and Ireland probably) aren't getting games. Well wake up and smell the coffee Nedum. Footballers don't get games because they are good laugh at the training ground. They get games if they are good enough. Otherwise they are shipped off. You and other professional footballers are paid very good money to deal with the harsh nature of the game. This supposed great group of lads finished 10th last season. This seasons bunch of dickheads finished 5th. I don't give two shits whether they had better banter in training ground before.

So in short, Adios.

[Mike J]

im a big nedum fan, he would certainly of been in my starting 11 most of the year. however what he has said is unacceptable. you dont slag the club and manager off on tv like that. he sounds like elano. he must already know he is off.

what a shame, could be a top player.

[brite blu sky]

read it all now.. and i think the thing i am taking from all this apart from Ned being out of order complaining publically, is that maybe one of the reasons most of our academy lads haven't got right to the top is the culture they were used to playing for.. as in City were always a fairly mediocre team, so the bar was not that high. Now the bar has been put right to the top it is having the effect of putting the cat amongst the pidgeons.
The only way City were ever going to get to the top was by bringing in the highest quality and the best professional mentality. The challenge to the existing players is to knuckle down and learn and nothing less, the aim for every player at City now is to become the best player in their position in the Prem and beyond, that is the idea.

imo Ned has just shown his limits.. the mental attitude is not there, end of.

The plus side is that the Academy players now coming through are going to learn to the level they will need to be at for City in the future and that bodes well. We will see the next wave of kids being more like what Arsenal or rags produce rather than the City of old.

[FA cup winners 2006]

This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as i am concerned.

What players actually like mancini, this is the type of bullshit that cannot go on every year. So what has mancini got to do know, get rid of everyone, buy a new squad and let it settle for a year, for fucks sake.

as most on here have been saying, Ned is a smart lad and would not put himself in such a position. i think he already knows he is gone. Stupid airing it on Soccer AM but we dont know whats going on behind the scenes, the players do and lately none of them are coming out with favourable comments.

This is also going to put alot of players off coming to city, we are not a CL club yet and we cannot attract the best in europe yet. We need a few players, similar to the quality we have now, to make that step up, but who is going to want to sign for city and then be cast aside when we reach the CL

[brite blu sky]

This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as i am concerned.

What players actually like mancini, this is the type of bullshit that cannot go on every year. So what has mancini got to do know, get rid of everyone, buy a new squad and let it settle for a year, for fucks sake.

as most on here have been saying, Ned is a smart lad and would not put himself in such a position. i think he already knows he is gone. Stupid airing it on Soccer AM but we dont know whats going on behind the scenes, the players do and lately none of them are coming out with favourable comments.

This is also going to put alot of players off coming to city, we are not a CL club yet and we cannot attract the best in europe yet. We need a few players, similar to the quality we have now, to make that step up, but who is going to want to sign for city and then be cast aside when we reach the CL

simple, players that believe they can play in the CL when we get there.. and believe they are good enough to not get dumped.

[FA cup winners 2006]

This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as i am concerned.

What players actually like mancini, this is the type of bullshit that cannot go on every year. So what has mancini got to do know, get rid of everyone, buy a new squad and let it settle for a year, for fucks sake.

as most on here have been saying, Ned is a smart lad and would not put himself in such a position. i think he already knows he is gone. Stupid airing it on Soccer AM but we dont know whats going on behind the scenes, the players do and lately none of them are coming out with favourable comments.

This is also going to put alot of players off coming to city, we are not a CL club yet and we cannot attract the best in europe yet. We need a few players, similar to the quality we have now, to make that step up, but who is going to want to sign for city and then be cast aside when we reach the CL

simple, players that believe they can play in the CL when we get there.. and believe they are good enough to not get dumped.

it really does'nt matter what the players think about themseleves, its what they think of the club management and hierarchy

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as i am concerned.

What players actually like mancini, this is the type of bullshit that cannot go on every year. So what has mancini got to do know, get rid of everyone, buy a new squad and let it settle for a year, for fucks sake.

as most on here have been saying, Ned is a smart lad and would not put himself in such a position. i think he already knows he is gone. Stupid airing it on Soccer AM but we dont know whats going on behind the scenes, the players do and lately none of them are coming out with favourable comments.

This is also going to put alot of players off coming to city, we are not a CL club yet and we cannot attract the best in europe yet. We need a few players, similar to the quality we have now, to make that step up, but who is going to want to sign for city and then be cast aside when we reach the CL

They don't need to fucking like him. They just need to play well for him and for themselves and first and foremost for the supporters. That's what so fucking stupid about this outburst. "Boohoo my bezzie mates Stevo and Shaunie aren't getting games". Now I'm a fucking giant fan of all three but they need to fucking buckle up and raise to the challenge of better players coming into the club. They anyway got a head start on them with supporters having much more time for them and show more support than to any newcomer.

Players are there to play and obey manager. For better or for worse. That's the structure of a football club. Here Nedum is making claims that Lescott should've played (why the fuck would Mancini bench him if he was fully fit), Ireland should've played (when he played he showed nothing like the form you expect from a starter) and so on. NEDUM IS NOT THE FUCKING MANAGER. He should concetrate on being fit and doing his own job. If he wants to go to management and decide about these things then he is free to do so. But we pay him to play for us, not to manage us. And anyway, even if he is leaving that is a fucking CHEAP parting shot to club that has in reality given him so much.

[brite blu sky]

This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as i am concerned.

What players actually like mancini, this is the type of bullshit that cannot go on every year. So what has mancini got to do know, get rid of everyone, buy a new squad and let it settle for a year, for fucks sake.

as most on here have been saying, Ned is a smart lad and would not put himself in such a position. i think he already knows he is gone. Stupid airing it on Soccer AM but we dont know whats going on behind the scenes, the players do and lately none of them are coming out with favourable comments.

This is also going to put alot of players off coming to city, we are not a CL club yet and we cannot attract the best in europe yet. We need a few players, similar to the quality we have now, to make that step up, but who is going to want to sign for city and then be cast aside when we reach the CL

simple, players that believe they can play in the CL when we get there.. and believe they are good enough to not get dumped.

it really does'nt matter what the players think about themseleves, its what they think of the club management and hierarchy

not sure where you are going with that one..
Any player that cannot see that City have the ambition to become the best are not on this planet. If players have doubts about their own ambition and ability then we wouldn't want to see them in the first place, or to put it another way if there are players who would consider playing for City but would be worried they would get the boot when we get CL.. simply dont have the right attitude and we should stay well clear.

[Ted Hughes]

This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as i am concerned.

What players actually like mancini, this is the type of bullshit that cannot go on every year. So what has mancini got to do know, get rid of everyone, buy a new squad and let it settle for a year, for fucks sake.

as most on here have been saying, Ned is a smart lad and would not put himself in such a position. i think he already knows he is gone. Stupid airing it on Soccer AM but we dont know whats going on behind the scenes, the players do and lately none of them are coming out with favourable comments.

This is also going to put alot of players off coming to city, we are not a CL club yet and we cannot attract the best in europe yet. We need a few players, similar to the quality we have now, to make that step up, but who is going to want to sign for city and then be cast aside when we reach the CL

They don't need to fucking like him. They just need to play well for him and for themselves and first and foremost for the supporters. That's what so fucking stupid about this outburst. "Boohoo my bezzie mates Stevo and Shaunie aren't getting games". Now I'm a fucking giant fan of all three but they need to fucking buckle up and raise to the challenge of better players coming into the club. They anyway got a head start on them with supporters having much more time for them and show more support than to any newcomer.

Players are there to play and obey manager. For better or for worse. That's the structure of a football club. Here Nedum is making claims that Lescott should've played (why the fuck would Mancini bench him if he was fully fit), Ireland should've played (when he played he showed nothing like the form you expect from a starter) and so on. NEDUM IS NOT THE FUCKING MANAGER. He should concetrate on being fit and doing his own job. If he wants to go to management and decide about these things then he is free to do so. But we pay him to play for us, not to manage us. And anyway, even if he is leaving that is a fucking CHEAP parting shot to club that has in reality given him so much.

I can't find one word he's said that's derogatory about the club. He's clearly leaving or already left & he's not happy about it or the manager. He's a City fan & would rather stay but he's not rated by the present manager so he has to go.

If he starts going on about the club & stirring up trouble like some others have done then I can understand everyone giving him shit but he doesn't owe Mancini anything so is entitled to question his decisions if he's going/gone. He's clearly upset that he has to leave the club he loves & in his opinion it's the wrong decision.

Imo, he's not good enough in the air to play CB so if we're bringing in fullbacks there's no place for him so it's for the best. Doesn't mean he has to like it or be silent about his feelings though.

[FA cup winners 2006]

This is just the tip of the iceberg as far as i am concerned.

What players actually like mancini, this is the type of bullshit that cannot go on every year. So what has mancini got to do know, get rid of everyone, buy a new squad and let it settle for a year, for fucks sake.

as most on here have been saying, Ned is a smart lad and would not put himself in such a position. i think he already knows he is gone. Stupid airing it on Soccer AM but we dont know whats going on behind the scenes, the players do and lately none of them are coming out with favourable comments.

This is also going to put alot of players off coming to city, we are not a CL club yet and we cannot attract the best in europe yet. We need a few players, similar to the quality we have now, to make that step up, but who is going to want to sign for city and then be cast aside when we reach the CL

They don't need to fucking like him. They just need to play well for him and for themselves and first and foremost for the supporters. That's what so fucking stupid about this outburst. "Boohoo my bezzie mates Stevo and Shaunie aren't getting games". Now I'm a fucking giant fan of all three but they need to fucking buckle up and raise to the challenge of better players coming into the club. They anyway got a head start on them with supporters having much more time for them and show more support than to any newcomer.

Players are there to play and obey manager. For better or for worse. That's the structure of a football club. Here Nedum is making claims that Lescott should've played (why the fuck would Mancini bench him if he was fully fit), Ireland should've played (when he played he showed nothing like the form you expect from a starter) and so on. NEDUM IS NOT THE FUCKING MANAGER. He should concetrate on being fit and doing his own job. If he wants to go to management and decide about these things then he is free to do so. But we pay him to play for us, not to manage us. And anyway, even if he is leaving that is a fucking CHEAP parting shot to club that has in reality given him so much.

they DO need to like and more importantly respect the manager, like in every work place, teams that respect each other and their superiors will get better results. Ned is obviously disillisioned at what is going on at the club and i'd say he is not the only player. letting the likes of Ned, Micah, Stevie, SWP go will come back to bite us in the arse, all homegrown, talented players.

Why did Lescott not play? i dont know but Ned seems sure that he was fit enough. He even mentioned how Harry was pushing all his players for the WC and mancini held Lescott back. Harry seems to have the utmost respect for his players and they are obviously made feel thay are the best in the world, what does mancini do, tell the world that stevie is mental, appartently holds back lescott from playing in the WC and 3 days before our biggest game of the season, again tells the media that city need to buy a load of top stars next year (because this current group are so shit)

There needs to be mutual respect between the players and the management.