John Guidetti - The next academy player to make the grade?

[DoomMerchant]

Sure the level might not be brilliant but I'm sure that at that level he WILL get time on the pitch (see file marked Vladimir Weiss for the benefit of this traded off against the lesser standard of football).

People seem to forget this basic concept...

If, for example, i was a porn star who did very little fucking but an awful lot of wanking off...well, surely my skills would dip. I'd be better off plying my trade at BBWdotCom and pounding some fatties just to keep in match fitness so that when Vivid Alt call me up and ask me to star next to Kimberly Kane in her next film that i'm ready to go and show off my skills.

Simples.

cheers

[Martinez]

He's also getting a lot of media attention in Sweden which he doesn't seem to mind. He was a special guest in the TV-studio ahead of the derby last saturday and he was on a swedish motd- like show again this weekend after his first start.

What people over here are talking about is how huge the difference really must be when our 18yo 6th choice striker can come over to Sweden and look a class above the rest. I agree the top teams in Sweden could probably stay up in the Championship but without watching this particular game, I can guarantee it was not Championship class.

He really seems to be enjoying himself though, and short term I think it's a wise move. I just hope he doesn't stay over the summer since he's really not that far off making the bench and the level just isn't good enough

[Douglas Higginbottom]

Good move short term I would agree. And what Ant said about the pre season tour might well be spot on too. It would be be great for him to mix with the first team and get some game time along with a few others so that Mancini gets a closer look.

It will be interesting also to see if we hear from Guidetti himself if he doesnt get much of a look in.Seems a confident lad and no doubt will expect to get some chances and if he doesn't I just hope he isn't another Sturridge.

[stockportblue]

Guidetti gets hyped up by many who havent seen him actually play.God help him if he reaches the first team any time soon and doesnt reach the expectation of those who seem to think hes a potential world superstar.Give him a bit of time to develop.

From what I have seen in the under 18s this year I would say at this stage Ahmed Benali is a far better prospect.Such is the difficult nature of predicting the progress of 18 year old footballers in twelve months time things could be very different.

[Mase]

Anyone know how Kieran Trip did at Barnsley?

[legget]

2 assist and 1 goal after 2 appearences for BP sofar. It's a okey start for him.
Both assist and the goal can be seen here:
http://www.youtube.com/user/JohnGuidettidotcom

[john@staustell]

Guidetti gets hyped up by many who havent seen him actually play.God help him if he reaches the first team any time soon and doesnt reach the expectation of those who seem to think hes a potential world superstar.Give him a bit of time to develop.
From what I have seen in the under 18s this year I would say at this stage Ahmed Benali is a far better prospect.Such is the difficult nature of predicting the progress of 18 year old footballers in twelve months time things could be very different.

I dont really agree with this bit Stockport fella. If this guy is good enough - and to decide that is the job of our well-paid coaches - then he needs to be fast-tracked ahead of 'seniority` asap. I agree with the points that he is getting game time, enjoys media attention etc, and therefore it will benefit him. Good to hear he is a class above too.

'A bit of time to develop' is a phrase usually used for people who, 99 times out of a hundred (or more), aren't good enough and never will be (Ade Mike syndrome?). Of which we have had legions in the past (as all clubs). They have been slagged off because they aren't good enough and therefore dont live up to expectations we have of them coming into the first team, end of. Soon they are gone 20 and heading for retirement before you know it, whilst still going on 'development' loans.

If he's good enough get him in, I dont think from what I hear about his character he will have a problem with expectations. If the coaches dont think he´s good enough then fair play. But it should be easier for a good young player to shine in this team than some of the dire sides we have fielded in the past 30 years.

[stockportblue]

City fans that dont watch the reserve games have a habit of hyping up players then writing them off if they arent superstars on their debuts.Thats why I say give him time to develop before touting him as a premier league rstar.

Incidently just watched the under 18s lose 3-2 to United in fergie added time.2-0 up at half time too.

And for all those that still think Jim Cass and Alex Gibson are in the middle east-they were at platt Lane watching the game along with EX-CITY COACH Frank bunn who saw his son score one of the City goals.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Everyone looks to have missed this.....

I'd say this sounds like we do rate him to be sending him out on loan so young......exciting stuff. Although I've never heard of this Hurdy Gurdy FC mob??? ;-)


Manchester City starlet John Guidetti is set to join Swedish outfit Djurgardens on loan.

The 17-year-old striker was lured to City during Sven Goran Eriksson's regime and is very highly regarded at Eastlands.

But with a host of forwards on their books, Roberto Mancini is now set to allow Guidetti to gain first-team experience in his homeland.

Djurgardens have now struck a deal with City and he is expected to spend the rest of the season in Sweden.

"Manchester City are positive to do a loan until the end of May," Djurgardens sports director Stefan Alven told Expressen.

"John has expressed a desire to join Djurgardens and we are interested in signing him."

Bottom table club in the swedish top division, the mighty Allsvenskan. Will be interesting to see how he does, it's a crap league which started early this season after a very cold winter so the playing surfaces are embarrassingly shite.

That's bit harsh. Swedish league is very much same level as bottom of the Championship/top of the 1st div. And the game is quite similar to England. Djurgårdens IF is very decent side and they had probably the best side in Sweden in early-00's. Playing in front of crowds of 10 to 15k every week and getting chance to play against other Stockholm sides will do him world of good.

Good move all things considered.

This feller was in Swedish telly few weeks back on pre-game show and from what I gathered, sounded like bit of a arrogant knob though. Hope it was just my lousy understanding of Swedish.

[Martinez]

Everyone looks to have missed this.....

I'd say this sounds like we do rate him to be sending him out on loan so young......exciting stuff. Although I've never heard of this Hurdy Gurdy FC mob??? ;-)


Manchester City starlet John Guidetti is set to join Swedish outfit Djurgardens on loan.

The 17-year-old striker was lured to City during Sven Goran Eriksson's regime and is very highly regarded at Eastlands.

But with a host of forwards on their books, Roberto Mancini is now set to allow Guidetti to gain first-team experience in his homeland.

Djurgardens have now struck a deal with City and he is expected to spend the rest of the season in Sweden.

"Manchester City are positive to do a loan until the end of May," Djurgardens sports director Stefan Alven told Expressen.

"John has expressed a desire to join Djurgardens and we are interested in signing him."

Bottom table club in the swedish top division, the mighty Allsvenskan. Will be interesting to see how he does, it's a crap league which started early this season after a very cold winter so the playing surfaces are embarrassingly shite.

That's bit harsh. Swedish league is very much same level as bottom of the Championship/top of the 1st div. And the game is quite similar to England. Djurgårdens IF is very decent side and they had probably the best side in Sweden in early-00's. Playing in front of crowds of 10 to 15k every week and getting chance to play against other Stockholm sides will do him world of good.

Good move all things considered.

This feller was in Swedish telly few weeks back on pre-game show and from what I gathered, sounded like bit of a arrogant knob though. Hope it was just my lousy understanding of Swedish.

As it turned out, Djurgarden rejected the loan last minute and he was snapped up by Brommapojkarna instead, they're probably the best team in Stockholm atm, though that's not saying much. They play their home games on the Grimsta IP- stadium, on a plastic turf and with a maximum capacity of 8000, I reckon their average gate will be around 4000.

I thought he came across quite well on TV, very confident absolutely, and he didn't mind telling the reporters a bit what goes on in the dressing room. That Bellers gets pissed off if you speak another language than english, that Tevez hardly says anything (since he hardly knows one word of english) and so on. More outspoken than the average footballer but never crossed the line is my impression, not bad for an 18year old lad

[Dameerto]

That's bit harsh. Swedish league is very much same level as bottom of the Championship/top of the 1st div. And the game is quite similar to England. Djurgårdens IF is very decent side and they had probably the best side in Sweden in early-00's. Playing in front of crowds of 10 to 15k every week and getting chance to play against other Stockholm sides will do him world of good.

Good move all things considered.

This feller was in Swedish telly few weeks back on pre-game show and from what I gathered, sounded like bit of a arrogant knob though. Hope it was just my lousy understanding of Swedish.

I've always thought strikers need a touch of arrogance though, it's all about self confidence.

[Niall Quinns Discopants]

Everyone looks to have missed this.....

I'd say this sounds like we do rate him to be sending him out on loan so young......exciting stuff. Although I've never heard of this Hurdy Gurdy FC mob??? ;-)


Manchester City starlet John Guidetti is set to join Swedish outfit Djurgardens on loan.

The 17-year-old striker was lured to City during Sven Goran Eriksson's regime and is very highly regarded at Eastlands.

But with a host of forwards on their books, Roberto Mancini is now set to allow Guidetti to gain first-team experience in his homeland.

Djurgardens have now struck a deal with City and he is expected to spend the rest of the season in Sweden.

"Manchester City are positive to do a loan until the end of May," Djurgardens sports director Stefan Alven told Expressen.

"John has expressed a desire to join Djurgardens and we are interested in signing him."

Bottom table club in the swedish top division, the mighty Allsvenskan. Will be interesting to see how he does, it's a crap league which started early this season after a very cold winter so the playing surfaces are embarrassingly shite.

That's bit harsh. Swedish league is very much same level as bottom of the Championship/top of the 1st div. And the game is quite similar to England. Djurgårdens IF is very decent side and they had probably the best side in Sweden in early-00's. Playing in front of crowds of 10 to 15k every week and getting chance to play against other Stockholm sides will do him world of good.

Good move all things considered.

This feller was in Swedish telly few weeks back on pre-game show and from what I gathered, sounded like bit of a arrogant knob though. Hope it was just my lousy understanding of Swedish.

As it turned out, Djurgarden rejected the loan last minute and he was snapped up by Brommapojkarna instead, they're probably the best team in Stockholm atm, though that's not saying much. They play their home games on the Grimsta IP- stadium, on a plastic turf and with a maximum capacity of 8000, I reckon their average gate will be around 4000.

I thought he came across quite well on TV, very confident absolutely, and he didn't mind telling the reporters a bit what goes on in the dressing room. That Bellers gets pissed off if you speak another language than english, that Tevez hardly says anything (since he hardly knows one word of english) and so on. More outspoken than the average footballer but never crossed the line is my impression, not bad for an 18year old lad

Why do I gather that you don't really like Stockholm as a City, mate? Personally I'd say both AIK and Djurgården have better teams than Brommapojkarna although Brommapojkarna have started the league very well and they were on the box the other week and seemed to be well trained side (although I only watched one half).

Do you know when AIK paly Brommapojkarna. I might try and make it over for that game. Swedes seem to be bit shy about it but truth is Råsunda when AIK is playing another Stockholm side (especially Hammarby) with stadion full to it's almost 40k (to my recollection) capacity it's as good experience as with any top sides Europe and I've been all over to watch football.

Hammarby is my fave Stockholm side but unfortunately they are in Superettan this season.

I'm planning a bit of road trip to Sweden this summer (as I'm skint and can't have a proper holiday this year) going to Kolmården and then probably driving to Gothenburg to see IFK Göteborg game and probably stop in Borås to watch Elfsborg (I always keep my eye on them as a mate of mine used to live there for few years and kind of supports them) and hopefully even Helsingborgs if I have enough time.

[john@staustell]

I thought he came across quite well on TV, very confident absolutely, and he didn't mind telling the reporters a bit what goes on in the dressing room. That Bellers gets pissed off if you speak another language than english, that Tevez hardly says anything (since he hardly knows one word of english) and so on. More outspoken than the average footballer but never crossed the line is my impression, not bad for an 18year old lad

I dont reckon his Spanish is that hot mate.

Sort of Argentinian equivalent of Gazza of Joey Barton on the elocution front!

[Whassat]

Article about John Guidetti in the swedish newspaper Aftonbladet:

http://www.aftonbladet.se/sportbladet/f ... 7182211.ab



City demand: Come back, Guidetti

"We cannot guarantee that he will get matches, it depends on his development"

He have said that he would be "thankful if he could stay with Brommapojkarna (BP)" over the coming autumn.

But Manchester City wants to give John Guidetti the chance to break into the senior squad and they demand that he moves "home" to England this autumn.

- It is now clear that John Guidetti will come back and play for Manchester City, says a spokesperson within the club.

The loan deal ends after tonights game between BP and Malmö. This game will be John Guidetti's 8th match with BP and he have during his time in Sweden scored two goals and have three goal assist.

"He will be back for sure"

There won't be any more cameos this time around.

- I have talked with Brian Marwood (ex national football player who today bear the title "Football administrator"). It is now clear that John Guidetti will come back and play for Manchester City, says a spokesperson within the club.

Will John Guidetti be loaned out again to BP?

- No, he will be back.

The striker and BP's CEO Ola Danhard have been wondering about the future. Guidetti have described the situation as "Im sitting in a golden position" - Either the loan is extended and he will get a further chance to play with BP where he strives, or he will get a chance to establish himself as a senior squad City player.

They want him in the squad

Guidetti is far too interesting to not have have in the squad according to City's spokesperson

Why can't Guidetti stay in Sweden? He is not likely to start matches for City, with your current squad in mind?

- We cannot definitely say that he will feature [in the first team], it depends on his development. We have many young players, and we want to evaluate their development. So to answer you question "Where does Guidetti play in August?" - He will definitely train with our first team then.

[Dameerto]

How about a full season at Blackpool for him?

[HeyMark]

How about a full season at Blackpool for him?

Not a bad shout or even a high end championship club

[Whassat]

Guidetti finished his short cameo for BP tonight with a great goal vs Malmö (BP in red and black, Malmö in blue):

http://go.tv4.se/go/e/unknown;siteId=20 ... =1.1651669

Facts. 8 games played. 3 goals and 3 goal assists. Not too shabby :)

[Dameerto]

Guidetti finished his short cameo for BP tonight with a great goal vs Malmö (BP in red and black, Malmö in blue):

http://go.tv4.se/go/e/unknown;siteId=20 ... =1.1651669

Facts. 8 games played. 3 goals and 3 goal assists. Not too shabby :)

Very impressive stats - I see why he is so highly thought of by the Academy staff.

[TonyM]

How about a full season at Blackpool for him?

I'd be weary of sending any players to Blackpool. I could see them pulling the same crap as Birmingham did with Hart, i.e. making out like the player is better off staying put. I'd send them Onouha on loan. He seems out anyway put this would leave the door open should he prove himself week in week out.

I'd be more inclined to loan Guidetti/Ball/Nimley or similar to Wolves. McCarthy is a man of his word I think so there should be no crap in the papers about them staying longer.

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