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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby gillie » Tue May 25, 2010 11:37 pm

ross.mcfc wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:And also following any other fuckign nation that plays against England.

All sweatys should hang.


More generalisations. Being a Manc I guess you were in tears last game of the season when U***d didn’t win the league.

Ross where i live mate i actually know the bloke that puts up the St George's flags the night before St George's Day and he does it off his own bat coz my local council wont do it as it may cause offence and that my friend is why you dont see the flag on a daily basis where i am from.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Tue May 25, 2010 11:55 pm

gillie wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:And also following any other fuckign nation that plays against England.

All sweatys should hang.


More generalisations. Being a Manc I guess you were in tears last game of the season when U***d didn’t win the league.

Ross where i live mate i actually know the bloke that puts up the St George's flags the night before St George's Day and he does it off his own bat coz my local council wont do it as it may cause offence and that my friend is why you dont see the flag on a daily basis where i am from.


There is no law to stop any flag waving or other (We all know that) the reality is that there are councils and the like that wont do it due to upsetting other religions/Faith as you have mentioned above.
Some people refuse to believe that is the case.

Thats what pisses me off.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed May 26, 2010 12:07 am

gillie wrote:More generalisations. Being a Manc I guess you were in tears last game of the season when U***d didn’t win the league.
Ross where i live mate i actually know the bloke that puts up the St George's flags the night before St George's Day and he does it off his own bat coz my local council wont do it as it may cause offence and that my friend is why you dont see the flag on a daily basis where i am from.



So why is your area any different to an area of Scotland or Ireland which has the same religons/ethnic minorities. NZ has far more ethnic diversity than the UK and it’s not a problem here.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed May 26, 2010 12:11 am

ross.mcfc wrote:
gillie wrote:More generalisations. Being a Manc I guess you were in tears last game of the season when U***d didn’t win the league.
Ross where i live mate i actually know the bloke that puts up the St George's flags the night before St George's Day and he does it off his own bat coz my local council wont do it as it may cause offence and that my friend is why you dont see the flag on a daily basis where i am from.



So why is your area any different to an area of Scotland or Ireland which has the same religons/ethnic minorities. NZ has far more ethnic diversity than the UK and it’s not a problem here.


Could it be that noone gives a flying fuck about the Scottish flag or Irish Flags being displayed ?

Just a thought.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed May 26, 2010 12:18 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
There is no law to stop any flag waving or other (We all know that) the reality is that there are councils and the like that wont do it due to upsetting other religions/Faith as you have mentioned above.
Some people refuse to believe that is the case.

Thats what pisses me off.


You got any credible evidence for this Carl or are you clinging to urban myths like the one you have been championing in this thread.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed May 26, 2010 12:19 am

ross.mcfc wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
There is no law to stop any flag waving or other (We all know that) the reality is that there are councils and the like that wont do it due to upsetting other religions/Faith as you have mentioned above.
Some people refuse to believe that is the case.

Thats what pisses me off.


You got any credible evidence for this Carl or are you clinging to urban myths like the one you have been championing in this thread.


so your calling the likes of Gillie a liar?
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed May 26, 2010 12:23 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
There is no law to stop any flag waving or other (We all know that) the reality is that there are councils and the like that wont do it due to upsetting other religions/Faith as you have mentioned above.
Some people refuse to believe that is the case.

Thats what pisses me off.


You got any credible evidence for this Carl or are you clinging to urban myths like the one you have been championing in this thread.


so your calling the likes of Gillie a liar?


Where did I call Gillie a liar?
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed May 26, 2010 12:27 am

ross.mcfc wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
There is no law to stop any flag waving or other (We all know that) the reality is that there are councils and the like that wont do it due to upsetting other religions/Faith as you have mentioned above.
Some people refuse to believe that is the case.

Thats what pisses me off.


You got any credible evidence for this Carl or are you clinging to urban myths like the one you have been championing in this thread.


so your calling the likes of Gillie a liar?


Where did I call Gillie a liar?


gillie has stated
Ross where i live mate i actually know the bloke that puts up the St George's flags the night before St George's Day and he does it off his own bat coz my local council wont do it as it may cause offence and that my friend is why you dont see the flag on a daily basis where i am from.

You are saying thats a myth......so basically calling gillie a liar.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed May 26, 2010 12:35 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:
There is no law to stop any flag waving or other (We all know that) the reality is that there are councils and the like that wont do it due to upsetting other religions/Faith as you have mentioned above.
Some people refuse to believe that is the case.

Thats what pisses me off.


You got any credible evidence for this Carl or are you clinging to urban myths like the one you have been championing in this thread.


so your calling the likes of Gillie a liar?


Where did I call Gillie a liar?


I was refering to the urban myth that you were getting on your high horse about in Croydon.

Regarding Gillies comment (who I in no way called a liar)

gillie has stated
Ross where i live mate i actually know the bloke that puts up the St George's flags the night before St George's Day and he does it off his own bat coz my local council wont do it as it may cause offence and that my friend is why you dont see the flag on a daily basis where i am from.

You are saying thats a myth......so basically calling gillie a liar.


I was referring to the urban myth that you were backing as fact in Croydon. You know the one that has been put to bed as a pack of made up lies.

Regarding Gillies (who I in no way called a liar) his post states someone else puts a flag up on a special day (again why just one day of the year) because the council don’t. Well it’s not the council’s job to put flags up. Bin collections, housing and environmental issues – Yes. Flags no.

I can see two Kiwi flags from where I am sitting that have been flying since I have been sitting here for three months. One’s in a shop window, the other is from a house. The council have nothing to do with them
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed May 26, 2010 12:39 am

No you wernt...you were refering this whole thread as urban myth..stop trying to weasel your way out of it.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed May 26, 2010 12:44 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:No you wernt...you were refering this whole thread as urban myth..stop trying to weasel your way out of it.


The thread started about that, and there have been other examples which have been proven just be urban myths or made up propaganda. Considering you ignored my offer to back this up with hard evidence I'd keep quiet on the old weaselling out accusations.

I've stated I did not call Gillie a liar and have stated why. Next.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed May 26, 2010 12:46 am

ross.mcfc wrote:
carl_feedthegoat wrote:No you wernt...you were refering this whole thread as urban myth..stop trying to weasel your way out of it.


The thread started about that, and there have been other examples which have been proven just be urban myths or made up propaganda. Considering you ignored my offer to back this up with hard evidence I'd keep quiet on the old weaselling out accusations.

I've stated I did not call Gillie a liar and have stated why. Next.



Council Trash St George's Day Flags


Patriots were left feeling CROSS when council workmen went round ripping down St George's flags hoisted on lamp-posts to celebrate the day of England's patron saint.
Liverpool City Council ordered the flags be removed as no permission was applied for, and under health and safety grounds they could cause harm to pedestrians and motorists.
Ironically, St George is not only the patron saint of England but also the official patron saint of the City of Liverpool.
But angry residents from the Walton area of Merseyside blasted the decision to take down the St George's cross flags is un-patriotic.
The move by town hall bureaucrats sparked outrage from residents after cherry-picker crews removed dozens of flags proudly fluttering on County Road and Walton Road.
Local resident and shop worker Greg McMee branded the council hypocrites for removing the flags as St Patrick's day flags are erected every year.
Mr McMee said: "We came into work this morning and the street looked great with flags hung on all the lamp posts.
"I didn't even know it was St George's day until I saw the flags.
"It's absolutely disgusting what the council has done. It's downright unpatriotic.
"Every other nationality is allowed to celebrate their own holiday but for some reason the English are not. It's sickening.
"The workmen were saying the council told them to remove the flags due to health and safety but the same lamp-posts are decorated every year with Paddy's Day flags.
"If the council had a problem with the flags they should have sent someone round to make them safe, not take them down."
Ex serviceman Patrick Dixon, 69 said: "I was incensed when I saw what the workmen were doing and went straight over to ask why they were ripping the flags down.
"There was a council worker, two workmen on a cherry-picker and two policeman keeping standing guard.
"I demanded to know why they were taking down the flags to which I was told, 'no permission was granted for the flags to be put up and they broke health and safety rules.'
"There are lads fighting and dying for this flag and some unpatriotic idiot sat behind a desk wants it ripping down. They should be sacked.
"The public pay the councils wages and they should be providing what we want not the other way round.
"What harm were the flags doing?
"We live in England, which is the greatest country in the world and we should embrace our flag not hide it.
"St George's day should be made a holiday and flags should be hoisted high but the people in power are afraid of being un-PC and it's wrong."
Jeff Kelly, who runs Kelly's newsagents in Huyton saw the flags being torn down and said the council workers 'looked ashamed of themselves.'
Jeff, 47, said: "It was a very sad scene.
"There was a council van with a cherry picker and they were being escorted by an unmarked police van.
"Apparently they were taking them down due to health and safety issues. It took them about half an hour.
"People were just looking on in disgust and they did look a bit ashamed of themselves.
"They could have just left them up until tomorrow, it just shows how reactionary they are.
"It was very disheartening, people want to commemorate their national day and why shouldn't we?
"Every year they put Irish flags up on the same posts. Imagine the outcry if they came round and removed them on Paddy's Day."
Construction worker and Orange Lodge leader Steve Bell, 55, added: "We put the flags up because we're organising a St George's Day parade.
"This was a petty decision made by someone in an office somewhere who isn't in touch what people really believe in.
"They tore them down because of Health and Safety issues - what are they afraid of?
"People just want to celebrate their nationality."
Liverpool town hall officials defended the decision to remove the flags and pointed-out that St George's flags were being flown on lamp-posts in the city's West Derby Road official blessing.
Liverpool City Council Assistant Director for Regeneration, Mike Burchnall said: "The problem we get occasionally is when we get unauthorised structures put up on lamp-posts.
"Those can cause problems and in the past we have had bits of flags or bits of material that fall off lamp-posts onto cars, producing a safety issue.
"If people want to put flags on lamp-posts we told to them and get them designed properly and put up with proper fixings.
"Unfortunately in this case that did not happen and an instruction was issued to have the flags removed.
"Whether it was St George's Day, or not, is irrelevant.
"We are not killjoys. The city is celebrating St. George's Day with flags flying on council buildings and civic buildings.
"It was a question of safety and whether the fixings are adequate with the proper D-rings. We could have been held liable if were were aware of it and did nothing.
"We will look at these flags and see if they can be made fit for purpose. If they can go back up, they will go back up."
James Cooney of the St George's Day Appreciation Society said: "To suggest that flying St George's flags can pose a threat to safety is ludicrous.
"People across the world honour St George and the impact England has had on the world without any problem.
"It just seems that certain people in this country have a paranoid complex about it.
"St George is also the patron saint of Liverpool so tearing these flags down is pathetic and disgraceful."

Some councils are fucking pathetic.
and thats a fact.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed May 26, 2010 12:53 am

The problem we get occasionally is when we get unauthorised structures put up on lamp-posts.
"Those can cause problems and in the past we have had bits of flags or bits of material that fall off lamp-posts onto cars, producing a safety issue.
"If people want to put flags on lamp-posts we told to them and get them designed properly and put up with proper fixings.
"Unfortunately in this case that did not happen and an instruction was issued to have the flags removed.
"Whether it was St George's Day, or not, is irrelevant.


I've never seen Irish flags in anywhere but Irish bars in the UK. I mean why would anyone do that. Sounds a little fishy to me.

You got a link for this factual piece of evidence. Just the sort of storm in a tea cup that people like to get upset about.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby carl_feedthegoat » Wed May 26, 2010 12:58 am

ross.mcfc wrote:
The problem we get occasionally is when we get unauthorised structures put up on lamp-posts.
"Those can cause problems and in the past we have had bits of flags or bits of material that fall off lamp-posts onto cars, producing a safety issue.
"If people want to put flags on lamp-posts we told to them and get them designed properly and put up with proper fixings.
"Unfortunately in this case that did not happen and an instruction was issued to have the flags removed.
"Whether it was St George's Day, or not, is irrelevant.


I've never seen Irish flags in anywhere but Irish bars in the UK. I mean why would anyone do that. Sounds a little fishy to me.

You got a link for this factual piece of evidence. Just the sort of storm in a tea cup that people like to get upset about.


do your own fucking homework.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed May 26, 2010 1:22 am

carl_feedthegoat wrote:
ross.mcfc wrote:
The problem we get occasionally is when we get unauthorised structures put up on lamp-posts.
"Those can cause problems and in the past we have had bits of flags or bits of material that fall off lamp-posts onto cars, producing a safety issue.
"If people want to put flags on lamp-posts we told to them and get them designed properly and put up with proper fixings.
"Unfortunately in this case that did not happen and an instruction was issued to have the flags removed.
"Whether it was St George's Day, or not, is irrelevant.


I've never seen Irish flags in anywhere but Irish bars in the UK. I mean why would anyone do that. Sounds a little fishy to me.

You got a link for this factual piece of evidence. Just the sort of storm in a tea cup that people like to get upset about.


do your own fucking homework.


I have and the first thing it comes up with on google is this from this http://www.nwn-forum.co.uk/

Interesting website. Such great forums such as Muslim watch, Big Brother, Jews and Israel. Exactly the sort of people I expect to be endulging in this sort of propaganda.

There's also a report from that hard hitting epaper Liverpool click.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby ross.mcfc » Wed May 26, 2010 1:26 am

[quote="carl_feedthegoat"
Patriots were left feeling CROSS .[/quote]

Ha - Just noticed that. Very highbrow stuff.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby Goataldo » Wed May 26, 2010 7:24 pm

Chinners wrote:Urban Myth confirmation of uwe's_skyblue_duvet story B*ll*x
Police: England football shirt pub ban is a myth
Football fans can breathe a sigh of relief after police quashed rumours of a possible ban on wearing England shirts in pubs during the World Cup.
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I hope it was clear that I didn't think the story was true!
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby Sister of fu » Wed May 26, 2010 8:28 pm

uwe's_skyblue_duvet wrote:
Chinners wrote:Urban Myth confirmation of uwe's_skyblue_duvet story B*ll*x
Police: England football shirt pub ban is a myth
Football fans can breathe a sigh of relief after police quashed rumours of a possible ban on wearing England shirts in pubs during the World Cup.
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I hope it was clear that I didn't think the story was true!



I think the mods should ban you for 4 weeks and make Doug read all your posts before you start any new threads ever again.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby BlueMoonAwoken » Thu May 27, 2010 6:44 pm

Well i have just been to tesco's in failsworth , i went in the garage to get some petrol when i was stood at the counter paying a guy came in next to me buying a large england flag. I heard the women who was serving me talking to the guy saying " the flag he was buying was a good size" She then said " We cant put the large ones up for the world cup" at which point i piped in and said
"why?" there was a asian guy behind me and she noded her head towards him.

Now this isnt the police this must be tesco's management, im calling them tonight to see whats going on and if this country is going mad.
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Re: Ban on wearing England shirts during WC

Postby HeyMark » Thu May 27, 2010 6:53 pm

BlueMoonAwoken wrote:Well i have just been to tesco's in failsworth , i went in the garage to get some petrol when i was stood at the counter paying a guy came in next to me buying a large england flag. I heard the women who was serving me talking to the guy saying " the flag he was buying was a good size" She then said " We cant put the large ones up for the world cup" at which point i piped in and said
"why?" there was a asian guy behind me and she noded her head towards him.

Now this isnt the police this must be tesco's management, im calling them tonight to see whats going on and if this country is going mad.


She sounds like she's a perfect fit for customer service!
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